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Bush Administration done ANYTHING right? (Locked due to moron (BW) infestation)

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« Reply #140 on: July 20, 2007, 11:12:23 PM »

glad you agree about intelligence...um clinton f...ked up...that is a huge fact...so don't apologize for him...aye'm over clinton's failings...but...there has been tremendous successes in the war to quell islamist guerrillas and their leaders...you just don't see it...check out some periodicals from other sources...and bin laden is either incapacitated or dead...dr. al zawahiri is the subject...really.

give me your thoughts on al zawahiri if you truly got a grasp of the matter...

And after al Zawahiri it'll be someone else. That's my thoughts. We can't afford perpetual full-scale military operations, occupying countries to find terrorist groups. Even if we could afford it, it's not effective.  Counter-insurgency, intelligence, special forces, and counter guerilla tactics have worked for these kinds of groups before. We should be improving our inter-bureau intelligence.

What to do about Iraq now is a different matter. But, you cannot reasonably say that Bush did something right by going in to Iraq to begin with, or that he has done much of anything right to handle it since then.

you misunderstand that it was of primary importance for the united states after years of militant guerrilla attacks with the straw breaking the camel's back in sept. 2001 to offensively take an ACTIVE military position of vigilance against those who try to intimidate the united states with their notorious acts of death and destruction...because of the "don't tread on me" strokes of the bush administration...the shock and awe offensive in afghanistan against the crescenting taliban and the crescenting guerrillas of alquedah marked the united states as a nation whose citizens WILL NOT be intimidated...and the OPEN CASE FILES will not close on known crescenting guerrilla leaders, like al zawahiri...the bunker busting bombs with their shock and awe usa response to jihadist intimidation WAS necessary and bush needed to do it...sorry, but the history books will make sure he is credited with the second strike against modern islamist guerrillas after the passengers who fought back on the flight which crashed in PA in sept of 2001 who took the first vigilant stand! bush used...swift...loud...powerfu l force against the attackers...the right move. and it was shown on al jazeera...fox...and cnn..."the united states is a rattlesnake...you were warned...now, deal with the bite"...that kind of rhetoric speaks to "radical crescenting clerics" and "crescenting guerrillas"...it says we know about you and eventually you won't matter...today you do...but tomorrow you won't.

going into iraq is easy...a genocidal regime and its heirs were removed...just like hitler should have been removed before the third reich regime destroyed europe and its people...


history repeats itself:

first the usa military took a stand against japan after an attack.
then the usa military took out the hitler military regime...too late for many...here is a question for you...how long did it take europe to recover from hitler's regime and its genocide?

first the usa military took a stand against "crescenting guerrila's" in afghanistan after an attack.
then the usa military took out the hussein military regime...not too late for many...kurdish people liberated...how long do you think it will take iraq to recover from hussein's regime and genocide? 

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« Reply #141 on: July 20, 2007, 11:51:46 PM »
but, can he be tried once he leaves office and the next pres opens up the records?  (assuming he doesnt have them all destroyed, which i think he will...)

The next president will be so focused on cleaning up Bush's many messes that they won't have the time or the political will to look into this Administration's various criminal wrongdoings.  Sadly, they will get away scott-free.   :'(
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sorry...but good luck with this "mess" line of thinking...lincoln's "mess" of a civil war rectified itself...and that was a HUGE mess...and dreaming up criminal wrongdoings is measured by the eye of perception...lincoln had a lot of southern americans killed by northern americans...you find the crime and those who will waste time and money on a war-time president...and aye'll call you a neo-dem...wake up and see that scooter libby is free...valerie plame was white noise...and bush is not a lame duck commander in chief...despite the fact that the corporate media would like to think he has no power...this guy is a STRONG president...like teddy roosevelt! bully!  he'll be in the white house until 2009...promise. ;)

seems to me that you have symptoms of post-election anxiety stress disorder...bush has been in power since 2000...yes, this administration has done what it has wished with MUCH protest...and it has gotten away with almost all of it because the opposition is weak and critique has been only negative: not constructive nor innovative nor informed...despite your saddness...aye am glad that the naysayers got away with nothing...even scott.
 

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« Reply #142 on: July 21, 2007, 11:02:10 PM »
In just his last two posts, bluewarrior has compared the Bush Administration to Lincoln and the Iraq War to World War II.   :o

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« Reply #143 on: July 21, 2007, 11:23:11 PM »
In just his last two posts, bluewarrior has compared the Bush Administration to Lincoln and the Iraq War to World War II.   :o





don't forget ben franklin... ;)...don't tread on me...look it up sometime.... :)




"I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids—She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance.—She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage.—As if anxious to prevent all pretentions of quarrelling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenceless animal; and even when those weapons are shewn and extended for her defence, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal:—Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.—Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America"

libertarians are down with this...


is it ben franklin?

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« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2007, 12:08:22 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/19/AR2007071902625.html?hpid=topnews

they are doing everything they can to cover there tracks.  and with repubs blocking all congressional attempts, it seems like he wont face any penalties while in office

but, can he be tried once he leaves office and the next pres opens up the records?  (assuming he doesnt have them all destroyed, which i think he will...)


but haven't all administrations shuffled us lawyers around? carter to reagan...reagan to reagan....bush to clinton...clinton to clinton...huh?  thought that was politics...big deal.

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« Reply #145 on: July 22, 2007, 07:02:43 AM »
if not for bush julie would be awfuly bored.

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« Reply #146 on: July 22, 2007, 07:29:21 PM »
if not for bush julie would be awfuly bored.

bustifern probably was happy when president richard cheney took office a few days ago...

shh...don't tell him...he liked bush too much.  bush has kept his post-presidential election syndrome from going away ;)


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« Reply #147 on: July 23, 2007, 07:45:40 AM »
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2007/07/23/terror.html

Military option in play in Pakistan, U.S. says

Id like to think not even pres dumb a55 is dumb enough to start another war...

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« Reply #148 on: July 23, 2007, 10:04:12 AM »

you misunderstand that it was of primary importance for the united states after years of militant guerrilla attacks with the straw breaking the camel's back in sept. 2001 to offensively take an ACTIVE military position of vigilance against those who try to intimidate the united states with their notorious acts of death and destruction...because of the "don't tread on me" strokes of the bush administration...the shock and awe offensive in afghanistan against the crescenting taliban and the crescenting guerrillas of alquedah marked the united states as a nation whose citizens WILL NOT be intimidated...and the OPEN CASE FILES will not close on known crescenting guerrilla leaders, like al zawahiri...the bunker busting bombs with their shock and awe usa response to jihadist intimidation WAS necessary and bush needed to do it...sorry, but the history books will make sure he is credited with the second strike against modern islamist guerrillas after the passengers who fought back on the flight which crashed in PA in sept of 2001 who took the first vigilant stand! bush used...swift...loud...powerfu l force against the attackers...the right move. and it was shown on al jazeera...fox...and cnn..."the united states is a rattlesnake...you were warned...now, deal with the bite"...that kind of rhetoric speaks to "radical crescenting clerics" and "crescenting guerrillas"...it says we know about you and eventually you won't matter...today you do...but tomorrow you won't.

going into iraq is easy...a genocidal regime and its heirs were removed...just like hitler should have been removed before the third reich regime destroyed europe and its people...


history repeats itself:

first the usa military took a stand against japan after an attack.
then the usa military took out the hitler military regime...too late for many...here is a question for you...how long did it take europe to recover from hitler's regime and its genocide?

first the usa military took a stand against "crescenting guerrila's" in afghanistan after an attack.
then the usa military took out the hussein military regime...not too late for many...kurdish people liberated...how long do you think it will take iraq to recover from hussein's regime and genocide? 


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« Reply #149 on: July 23, 2007, 11:20:29 AM »

you misunderstand that it was of primary importance for the united states after years of militant guerrilla attacks with the straw breaking the camel's back in sept. 2001 to offensively take an ACTIVE military position of vigilance against those who try to intimidate the united states with their notorious acts of death and destruction...because of the "don't tread on me" strokes of the bush administration...the shock and awe offensive in afghanistan against the crescenting taliban and the crescenting guerrillas of alquedah marked the united states as a nation whose citizens WILL NOT be intimidated...and the OPEN CASE FILES will not close on known crescenting guerrilla leaders, like al zawahiri...the bunker busting bombs with their shock and awe usa response to jihadist intimidation WAS necessary and bush needed to do it...sorry, but the history books will make sure he is credited with the second strike against modern islamist guerrillas after the passengers who fought back on the flight which crashed in PA in sept of 2001 who took the first vigilant stand! bush used...swift...loud...powerfu l force against the attackers...the right move. and it was shown on al jazeera...fox...and cnn..."the united states is a rattlesnake...you were warned...now, deal with the bite"...that kind of rhetoric speaks to "radical crescenting clerics" and "crescenting guerrillas"...it says we know about you and eventually you won't matter...today you do...but tomorrow you won't.

going into iraq is easy...a genocidal regime and its heirs were removed...just like hitler should have been removed before the third reich regime destroyed europe and its people...


history repeats itself:

first the usa military took a stand against japan after an attack.
then the usa military took out the hitler military regime...too late for many...here is a question for you...how long did it take europe to recover from hitler's regime and its genocide?

first the usa military took a stand against "crescenting guerrila's" in afghanistan after an attack.
then the usa military took out the hussein military regime...not too late for many...kurdish people liberated...how long do you think it will take iraq to recover from hussein's regime and genocide? 


Bluewarrior, you're an optimistic little devil aren't you!  No, history paint a much different picture than you believe.  It will be more like the following:

As history reflects on the Bush Administration they'll see how they invaded Irag under false pretenses (they did actually claim to have ties from 9/11 to Iraq which is completely false).  The volumes of lies and deceit will finally be placed in chronological order for the world be abhor.  History will report how they then proceded to destabilize on the entire Middle East by removing a dictator who, although he was a criminal (something Bush and Saddam had in common), kept relatively stable peace in the region, which is why he hadn't been removed previously.  The destabilization will be typified by Iran's strengthened presence, which will lead to them possessing nuclear arms, and terrorist cells flourishing.

History will continue to show that once we arrived and all of the U.S.'s alibis were proven false, we drummed up a nearly two-decade old excuse of Saddam's mass killings to justify our presence.  Certainly, Saddam killed hundreds of people; but our invasion was hardly the time, place, or just retribution for such crimes.  Sadly the death toll of the invasion/occupation will tower above anything Saddam could have dreamt about (nearly 70,000 Iraqi civilians to date!)  Oh yes, the U.S. will be remembered as OCCUPIERS, having no concrete plan for victory or retreat throughout the Bush Administration's tenure.  The U.S. won't be remembered as liberators either.  Bush's blotched expirament will be placed in textbooks as illustration that liberty and democracy can't be forced on a people.  Rather, the U.S. will be viewed in a similar fashion as Al Queda in that both attacked an unengaged enemy to force religious and political idealogy on them. 

No, history will ultimately show how the Bush Administration's actions only accomplished the following:
depleted U.S. military strength
destroyed U.S. goodwill worldwide
weakened the U.S. economy
provided a more fertile breeding ground for terrorism
reduced American liberties
destabilized the middle east
spread nuclear arms

Sorry, but as Paul Harvey alway said "...And that's the rest of the story!"