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Laptop Questions/Options

Laptop Questions/Options
« on: July 06, 2004, 02:10:04 PM »
What is the AMD equivalent to the Intel Pentium M? What's the difference between 10/100 Ethernet and 10/100/1000 Ethernet? What about an XGA monitor versus an SXGA & TFT monitor? Syracuse has crazy minimum specs (see below), and I'm just trying to find the cheapest, most reliable notebook. Anyone knwo anything about Averatec? Thanks!

SPECS:

Intel Pentium M 1.6 GHz Processor; 512MB RAM; Windows XP Pro SP1 NTFS.

14.1SXGA+TFT Display (maximum resolution 1400x1050)

40GB Hard Drive; DVD/CDRW Drive; 1.44 Floppy Drive

ATI Mobility Radeon 7500, 32MB 4X AGP Video

Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet. Intel ProWireless 2100 WLAN 802.1lb Mini-PCI;56k Modem

6-Cell Li-Ion Battery

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2004, 04:57:23 PM »
AMD makes an AMD-M type of thing.  I've heard it runs hot and the fan blows all the time in some laptops that have it.  The Pentium-M Centrino isn't much more now that the Dothan has come out, so I'd avoid the AMD-M.  Fujitsu puts in in their S2000 series, and the S6000 series has the Pentium-M but is identical, and the price difference is like $100 for comparably equipped machines. 

I can't answer the ethernet question. 

XGA means a resolution of 1024x728
SXGA means a resolution of 1280x1024

Depending on the size of your screen, the XGA or SXGA is better (IMO).  If you get an SXGA on a 10" screen, I think it's too small.  I'm very happy with XGA on a 12" screen, myself.  But I hate straining to see for hours at a time. 

Have you ever typed on an Averatec?  I couldn't stand it.  It seems like a bargain at around $1000, but that's only with a 1-year warranty.

The thin-n-lights are more expensive than the heavier versions.  If you look at laptops in the 7+lb range, you'll find something more affordable with better quality.  To get a really decent thin-n-light, I'm sorry to say, but I haven't been able to find anything good for under $1500 with the specs your talking about.

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Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2004, 05:55:11 AM »
What is the AMD equivalent to the Intel Pentium M? What's the difference between 10/100 Ethernet and 10/100/1000 Ethernet? What about an XGA monitor versus an SXGA & TFT monitor? Syracuse has crazy minimum specs (see below), and I'm just trying to find the cheapest, most reliable notebook. Anyone knwo anything about Averatec? Thanks!

SPECS:

Intel Pentium M 1.6 GHz Processor; 512MB RAM; Windows XP Pro SP1 NTFS.

14.1SXGA+TFT Display (maximum resolution 1400x1050)

40GB Hard Drive; DVD/CDRW Drive; 1.44 Floppy Drive

ATI Mobility Radeon 7500, 32MB 4X AGP Video

Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet. Intel ProWireless 2100 WLAN 802.1lb Mini-PCI;56k Modem

6-Cell Li-Ion Battery


10/100/1000 Internet includes the new gigabit ethernet standard.  It's really sweet, but problem is that no one has it installed yet.  Hell, theres still plenty of places that don't even have CAT-5 (100).  And it (generally) doesn't make a difference for internet speeds, as the ethernet speed isn't the bottleneck, but does for intra-network transfers.

Oh, and go with the Intel ProWireless 2200.  It's the updated version that includes both 802.11b and 802.11g (g is the faster standard, and is popping up in quite a few places).

Id go with the Pentium-M, its a really solid chip (esp if you get one of the new upgraded versions...you can tell it by the fact that it has a model number like 735).  All monitors you look at will be TFT, the difference is SXGA vs. XGA.  For a 14.1", I'd go with a SXGA, unless you have some major problem with reading smaller type.  It's nice to be able to fit more stuff on the screen.

For a cheap computer, you might want to check out the Dell outlet.   I was originally going to get an IBM, but I really couldn't pass up on the Dell outlet price.  It was about $300 cheaper than the IBM, with a LOT more features.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&l=en&s=dfh&DGVCode=IR


Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2004, 06:00:40 PM »
Watch those dells, they often don't have wireless connectivity, or a cdrw.  Both of which should be an absolute minimum.

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2004, 07:07:17 AM »
What is the AMD equivalent to the Intel Pentium M? What's the difference between 10/100 Ethernet and 10/100/1000 Ethernet? What about an XGA monitor versus an SXGA & TFT monitor? Syracuse has crazy minimum specs (see below), and I'm just trying to find the cheapest, most reliable notebook. Anyone knwo anything about Averatec? Thanks!

SPECS:

Intel Pentium M 1.6 GHz Processor; 512MB RAM; Windows XP Pro SP1 NTFS.

14.1SXGA+TFT Display (maximum resolution 1400x1050)

40GB Hard Drive; DVD/CDRW Drive; 1.44 Floppy Drive

ATI Mobility Radeon 7500, 32MB 4X AGP Video

Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet. Intel ProWireless 2100 WLAN 802.1lb Mini-PCI;56k Modem

6-Cell Li-Ion Battery


i bought the avertec so far so good its light and cheap.  i think its pretty solid and pc magizine rates it high for the price.  wireless works great my only complaint is that the usb slots or on the side which gets in the way of my external mouse. but for the size and price you cant beat it.  for the record i do not do anything on my computer other than go on the internet and word processor, even though i did download the storelaw demo and that works fine.

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2004, 08:02:37 AM »
Dell 600m  is great room for memory upgrade and it is pretty light. I have wireless, DVD CDRW and runs really well

thinknpositive

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2004, 08:32:01 AM »
Dell 600m  is great room for memory upgrade and it is pretty light. I have wireless, DVD CDRW and runs really well

I just got one too.  I'm a big fan. The 20% off coupon made it really reasonably priced too.

It's a little heavier than I thought, but other than that, no complaints.

For all of you interested in getting a dell, you can find all the available coupon codes on this site: 

www.techbargains.com

The 20% off sale has showed up a few times already this summer, but I'm sure it will show up a few times more. 

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2004, 09:00:54 AM »
I just ordered my IBM T42 Thinkpad....


2379-DXU
Pentium M 735 1.7 GHz
512 mb
15" Flexview
dvd rom/cd-rw combo
Radeon 9600 Graphics controller
60 gb HD
Bluetooth
3/y warranty

    Will be my dream machine after i make a few selected upgrades... cant WAIT for it to arrive!!!!!

  C.

thinknpositive

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2004, 09:25:49 AM »
I just ordered my IBM T42 Thinkpad....


2379-DXU
Pentium M 735 1.7 GHz
512 mb
15" Flexview
dvd rom/cd-rw combo
Radeon 9600 Graphics controller
60 gb HD
Bluetooth
3/y warranty

    Will be my dream machine after i make a few selected upgrades... cant WAIT for it to arrive!!!!!

  C.

do you think you'll use the bluetooth?

Re: Laptop Questions/Options
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2004, 09:26:30 AM »
Nice photo thinkpositive. Sorry I just ahave to give a compliment when it is deserved.
I got my 600m with wordperfect it is actually better than word does not reformat in the middle of typing