Law School Discussion

GW or UT

Re: GW or UT
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2008, 05:45:01 PM »
Geography is a factor when choosing a law school.  If you want to live in the regional area of Texas and it's surrounding states, then by all means, go to UT.  If you want to live on the east coast (particularly DC and north) go to GW.  I'm not a GW troll.  I would tell anyone if you want Boston, go to BC or BU, if you want NYC, go to Fordham, if you want LA, go to USC or UCLA.  If you want the Midwest, go to Norte Dame, if you want the south, Vanderbilt.  DUH.

cost is another factor. the OP got a 30k scholarship from UT and will save more money because of the lower COL. i don't know Texas' residency requirements but MAYBE he can get in-state tuition his second or third year? ...even if he can't, he will still save a lot.

in 2005, the economy wasn't that great and GW only put 25% in NLJ250 firms. that might happen again given the state of our economy. UT will give him better biglaw odds and a more flexible degree. so if the DC market happens to suck, he can go to TX or NY or CA

Re: GW or UT
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2008, 06:51:21 PM »
I see no good reason why this thread has to turn nasty.

I disagree that GW places better than UT in NYC.  I think they do have an advantage in DC though.

Re: GW or UT
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2008, 07:19:11 PM »
I see no good reason why this thread has to turn nasty.

I disagree that GW places better than UT in NYC.  I think they do have an advantage in DC though.

i'll agree with CLS Troll and say that GW does not place better than UT in NYC. i also agree that GW has an advantage in DC because there are many GW alums in the area. although many people say GW's alumni give you the finger, it's still better than nothing and they (like all alums) will hire from their own school if they had to choose between two similar candidates.

i think it may come down to cost for the OP and if money isn't an issue, then probably GW if you are set on DC. if money is a consideration, you'd be a fool to turn down UT.

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Re: GW or UT
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2008, 07:52:25 PM »
I think this may be time to just discuss some practical aspects to this.

If your concern is simply to end up in DC at a law job, then GW will provide you with more resources to get there. I don't think that DC firms look at GW grads any better than UT ones at all (I suspect the reverse is actually true but can't prove it), but there is a practical aspect to getting a job that isn't just about how a school is looked at.

Career center resources, OCI, contacts, etc. matter. They don't matter because a hiring partner is going to give you a leg up on your competitors, but they matter in getting you that first step. Trying to sift through firms after your 1L year is a dizzying task. There are so many firms out there that seem so similar on paper.

My point in all this is that I don't think there is a real difference in the degrees power at GW in the DC market. What I do think there is is a practical advantage for the average student.

All of this is doubly true if you're looking for non-traditional jobs (i.e. not biglaw) either because that's not what you want to do or because you didn't make good enough grades (and this can happen at either institution). I think if you want to end up in DC at all costs and you end up in the bottom quarter of your class, you're going to want to have more access to resources and alumni in the area.

I hope this post makes sense. It's perhaps colored by my current position looking at which firms to bid for OCI (deadline in three weeks), but I think it's true. I'm considering going back to Texas for summer next year, and most of what I do is use USC's resources. If I were set on going back to Texas no matter what (I'm not. I'd take a better job in LA if I had it), then I'd wish I were at UT to use their far wider Texas resources.

Re: GW or UT
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2008, 08:17:57 PM »
i remember UT having a regional fair in DC, so getting a DC job shouldn't be a problem.

GW and UT actually participate in some regional fairs together along with Cornell, Northwestern, BC, and BU.

i was told by my 2L friends who participated in some of them that Cornell, NW, and UT got the biggest pieces of the pie