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HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs

A.J

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2004, 02:12:42 PM »
One more thing dude, is this you?




BAFF213

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2004, 02:13:03 PM »
Something about my beard hiding my fat face and my weak jawline.  f-ing gay!!  :P

did he actually say you have a "weak jawline"?  ???   haha, that's funny

genreg78

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2004, 02:14:49 PM »
Ours was also 1-2 minutes; I did not look around to see if others had stopped writing their tests or not (I was in the front row, by the door {sucked}; proctors came in and out about 10 times during the test, one proctor’s cell ph kept beeping due to what I assumed was a low battery – he finally shut it off after the second section). Anyway, I'm thinking a very small % of the test taking pop would actually cheat – cheating: pay now or pay later. However, I have no scientific data to back up my assumption. Maybe LSAC should conduct a case study. Eventually, I believe the LSAT will be electronically administered, and test takers will simply be given scratch paper. In this scenario, the essay could also be typed rather than written; maybe a writing option would be available for poor typists.

Getting back to the topic of discussion.

Ours was at least 1-2 minutes between sections, and one poster already said they had 3 minutes. I'm glad most of your proctors knew about this loophole and only gave you 15 seconds or so. Even with this, you could still cheat by going back and bubbling in answers you left blank.

Maybe really getting back to the topic ....

That could be an expensive change, getting all of those computers. Unless maybe universities let them use the existing computer labs. Good point on the unfair competitive advantage given to typists in the writing section.

BAFF213

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2004, 02:18:20 PM »
has anyone tried using earplugs (to avoid annoying noises in the testing room)?  i was thinking i may use them in june.  there doesnt really seem to be any disadvantages to earplugs, except maybe not being able to hear the proctor when the section is over.  i have used them before though (when using a jackhammer working in construction), and i would think i wouldnt have a problem hearing the proctor, since you can hear most moderate to loud sounds.

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2004, 02:19:18 PM »
one problem i can think of is that earplugs are not allowed.

genreg78

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2004, 02:20:01 PM »
has anyone tried using earplugs (to avoid annoying noises in the testing room)?  i was thinking i may use them in june.  there doesnt really seem to be any disadvantages to earplugs, except maybe not being able to hear the proctor when the section is over.  i have used them before though (when using a jackhammer working in construction), and i would think i wouldnt have a problem hearing the proctor, since you can hear most moderate to loud sounds.

Was your room noisy? Ours was super quiet. A noisy testroom would be a seriously unfair disadvantage.

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Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2004, 02:23:25 PM »
Ours was also 1-2 minutes; I did not look around to see if others had stopped writing their tests or not (I was in the front row, by the door {sucked}; proctors came in and out about 10 times during the test, one proctor’s cell ph kept beeping due to what I assumed was a low battery – he finally shut it off after the second section). Anyway, I'm thinking a very small % of the test taking pop would actually cheat – cheating: pay now or pay later. However, I have no scientific data to back up my assumption. Maybe LSAC should conduct a case study. Eventually, I believe the LSAT will be electronically administered, and test takers will simply be given scratch paper. In this scenario, the essay could also be typed rather than written; maybe a writing option would be available for poor typists.

Getting back to the topic of discussion.

Ours was at least 1-2 minutes between sections, and one poster already said they had 3 minutes. I'm glad most of your proctors knew about this loophole and only gave you 15 seconds or so. Even with this, you could still cheat by going back and bubbling in answers you left blank.

Maybe really getting back to the topic ....

That could be an expensive change, getting all of those computers. Unless maybe universities let them use the existing computer labs. Good point on the unfair competitive advantage given to typists in the writing section.

the GRE and/or GMAT is on the computer.  i'm not sure exactly where the computer labs are, but it wasn't unreasonable for that testing agency to computerize the test(s).  and btw, LSAC is RICH.  there was a thread before about how freaking loaded LSAC is, with millions in cash in reserves.  maybe they can put it to good use.

anyway, i must say that i don't think i'd do as well on a computer anyway.  i need to be able to draw all over my test, right next to the questions, and use different markings on answers i KNOW to be wrong and answers i THINK are wrong and questions i need to come back and review, etc.

ilsox7

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2004, 02:25:28 PM »
Luckily most of us don't ever have to worry about the LSAT again  ;D

HankieB

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2004, 02:26:01 PM »
re: switching to a computer-based test...

I think if LSAC were to do this, they would have to use test-centers like the GMAT & CPA exam (I'm sure there are others) require now.  So it wouldn't necessarily require LSAC to purchase PCs.  

I took the GMAT right after they switched to a computer-adapted test, and all I can say is that sometimes it is nice to not have the opportunity to go back and second-guess your answers. It isn't a perfect situation, by any means, but I imagine that LSAC will eventually go down this road.

The best part of taking the test on a PC - instant grading.  I walked out with my score, and that felt pretty good.

Re: HOW TO CHEAT on LSATs
« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2004, 02:26:31 PM »
You are correct, unfortunately.

http://www.lsac.org/LSAC.asp?url=/additional-info/day-of-the-test.asp

Prohibited devices. Candidates are not permitted to bring into the testing room the following devices: ear plugs, books, papers of any kind, calculators, rulers, listening devices, cellular phones, recording or photographic devices, pagers, beepers, headsets, and/or other electronic devices. Supervisors are instructed to collect all prohibited devices that are brought into the testing room until the exam is finished. LSAC and LSAT testing staff will not be responsible for confiscated devices.

I believe they are allowed during the Bar Exam, at least in Minn.

one problem i can think of is that earplugs are not allowed.