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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Help me choose USC or NYU
« on: April 17, 2008, 08:03:28 AM »
So, life was going pretty well up until NYU came out of the blue and accepted me. Now I have to decide between LA and NYC in the next few weeks. Here is a little bit about me:

Born and raised in Northern California, went to school in SoCal and work for a firm here now as a paralegal. Also, the girlfriend of 3 years is here and locked into a job/PhD program at one of the big local schools for the next 2 years at least. Never spent more than 4 days in NYC, not partial to the cold.

Interested in land use law, soft ip, practicing in California, making enough money to buy a house and get a dog, and a JD/MBA program (although all the attys that I have talked to have discouraged it). To be honest, I am not even sure I want BIGLaw.

Any suggestions? I have been a lurker on here forever and I figure there is no better way to think this through than with people who are in the same situation with me.

Thanks.


Oh, and here is my LSN profile if any of you guys want to see how much NYU was an unexpected acceptance for me.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=icanhazlawschool

Name thief!

 >:(

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My gut feeling (maybe biased, I'm a PSU ugrad) is that it will probably get up to Temple/Pitt level in the rankings in the next few years but not much further.  The location of the campuses (campi?) is a drawback, as neither of them is near a major city. 

Would that be "major city" as in Ann Arbor, Charlottesville, Durham, or Ithaca, or "major city" as in Lexington, Williamsburg, Champaign-Urbana, Iowa City, Tuscaloosa, Athens, Bloomington, Tuscon, Madison, Chapel Hill, Winston-Salem, Davis, or Gainesville?

Oh...and DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!!    :P

The question was whether Penn State would be a tier one within 2-3 years.  Im wondering which which of those small-town schools had a huge jump from the bottom of tier two to a solid tier one, even without the question of timing. 

I was addressing the implication that location in a small town can keep a law school from being in the top tier.  The answer is quite obviously "no".  The issue of which other small-town schools "had a huge jump" cannot adequately be answered at face value without considering the rather unique situation of DSL (major research university merging with well-established but declining independent law school).

As for the question of whether PSU will be a Tier One, given the amount of investment and reputation of the two merged schools (Penn State and Dickinson School of Law) there is no reason why PSU-DSL should not be a Tier One school.  Whether it will happen within 2-3 years or somewhat longer is open to debate.  But there is no doubt PSU-DSL is headed in the direction of Ohio State, Illinois, and Iowa rather than Michigan State.

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Have you been to central PA? Jon Stuart said it best: "You're driving along with nothing, then it's like, cow... cow... cow... 20,000 hot chicks. That's Penn State."

Um...I live there.  I'm 2-3 hours or less from Philly, DC, Baltimore, NYC.  I've never heard of Jon Stuart, but anyone with a brain knows Jon Stewart is an idiot.  Plus, he's from Canada, and there's really nothing there.  Cow, eh?

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Pac-10, by far.

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USC falling has definately made me way more weary of going there, are my fears unfounded?

You're weary?  Maybe you just need to get more sleep.

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My gut feeling (maybe biased, I'm a PSU ugrad) is that it will probably get up to Temple/Pitt level in the rankings in the next few years but not much further.  The location of the campuses (campi?) is a drawback, as neither of them is near a major city. 

Would that be "major city" as in Ann Arbor, Charlottesville, Durham, or Ithaca, or "major city" as in Lexington, Williamsburg, Champaign-Urbana, Iowa City, Tuscaloosa, Athens, Bloomington, Tuscon, Madison, Chapel Hill, Winston-Salem, Davis, or Gainesville?

Oh...and DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!!    :P

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I feel like this is whining, but since everyone else is doing it I feel ok doing it too LOL.  Rejected at Emory, Waitlisted at American, 166 LSAT, URM.  Granted, my GPA is 2.9 and I'm sure that's what did it.  But honestly when I started my cycle I really was NOT expecting it to end this way.  Maybe I was naive?

http://briankim.net/blog/2006/10/trust-your-gut/

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Where do you want to live, work, and lay down roots? Go there. Dont worry about rankings below the top 35 or soish.  Decide where you see yourself, and go there.  Also, take scholarship requirements into suggestion.  Good academic standing vs. top 15% at a 2.6 curve is quite a difference

If you go to Buff, you should definitely start looking into summer internship opportunities back in Cali. 

Grats on the good academic standing scholarship!

The GPA level of the curve has nothing to do with the difficulty of attaining a given percentile.  Top 15% is just as difficult to attain at a school w/2.6 curve as it is at one w/a 3.4 curve, all other factors being equal.  What makes Top 15% more difficult is the caliber of the competition.  If you don't believe me, consider this example:  What would be more difficult... Top 15% at Vermont (2.67 curve) or Stanford (3.4 curve)?

Oh, and for the OP...go to the University at Buffalo if school quality is your primary concern.  The difference between the two schools is huge ("not quite as good" is a gross understatement).  Just don't forget your coat.

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I'll be graduating from law school with roughly $400,000 dollars in educational debt (self financed Yale for me, co signed on Dartmouth for my brother, Columbia for my sister), although have a stellar credit score and credit history. I already have 250,000 in debt, and Vandy's not offering me a cent. How do people grapple with this much debt (or even half of this), even graduating from Vandy? I also want to aim for a smaller boutique litigation law firm, since I'm not really interested in biglaw. 

Nice edit...big difference.  Devilishlyblue has the correct idea.

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I just got my offer: 20k/year, 60k total.

Most sweet.  But in view of all those other acceptances you have, my advice would be to say, "10Q but no 10Q...pls send my $$ to kitteh restin on appel".

 ;D

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