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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UC-Davis or Wisconsin ($) ??
« on: March 14, 2007, 10:43:16 AM »
Definitely visit Davis (I'm assuming you've probably already been to Madison).

However, unless you absolutely love Davis after visiting, I would go to Madison.  It makes a lot more sense if you envision yourself staying in the midwest.  And its not like Davis has that much greater of a reputation, in fact I think Madison's reputation is on par or better.  It is a wildly underrated law school that suffers a little in the rankings for stupid reasons.

For example, they are pretty committed to proividing a legal education to primarily Wisconsin residents, so they do not recruit as much nationally as most of the other Tier 1 schools.  As a result, their "numbers" might not be as good as many of the other Tier 1 schools, which brings down their ranking a bit.

Another way they tend to lose out in the rankings is that they heavily slant their scholarships towards financial need, as opposed to handing out scholarships to attract the people with the best numbers.

These are decisions that the school has made because they think its right, even at the expense of 5-10 spots in the rankings.  They are much more concerned than most top law schools with making the school accessible to residents of their state.  You've got to respect that, right?

So if I were you I would definitely visit Davis, but it sounds like Madison is a much better fit.  To be honest, I think California kind of sucks.  Sure its beautiful, but its also wildly overpopulated and the people are insufferable.

Thank you for your insight on these schools.  As someone that is considering DePaul, I was very interested to read your thoughts on that school in particular.

Let me ask you a question about DePaul.  I am from the Pac NW and would generally like to go to school there.  However, DePaul intrigued me and it seemed like a good school that I had a fairly decent shot to get into (I did), so I applied there.  My question is, how much of a regional school is DePaul?  It seems to me like they've got a fairly national reputation, so I am thinking that if I went there I would by no means be confined to the Midwest after graduating.  Do you think that is an accurate perception?

FYI, your description of their students being "laid back to a fault" only piqued my interest in the school.   ;D

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What schools should I target?
« on: March 13, 2007, 04:50:45 PM »
And to answer your question (sorry, not trying to hi-jack your thread), I would suggest targeting the likes of Minnesota, U of Washington, UC Davis, UC Hastings, Emory, etc.  Basically, in the 20-50 range of the Top 100 rankings.

Have you seen this website?


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What schools should I target?
« on: March 13, 2007, 04:47:12 PM »
Wow, I keep reading about people that got huge scores increases on their LSATs and it blows my mind.  How did you do it?  Reason I ask is that I took a practice LSAT, then a couple years later I self-administered a bunch of previous LSATs (while studying for the real one), and then I took the real LSAT.  EVERY SINGLE TIME I scored within one point of 160!

It really didn't seem to me like there was anything I could do to significantly raise (or lower) that score.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T3 with $ or T2?
« on: March 13, 2007, 04:25:31 PM »
Thank you for the response.  I guess I should have mentioned that the Pacific NW is where I envision myself being after law school, so the fact that Gonzaga is only a regional school does not automatically cancel it from consideration.

Honestly, I really want to go to Lewis & Clark.  If all else were equal I would take L&C over all but my extreme longshot choices.

But how the hell can I justify turning down 15K a year in scholarship money?  The scholarship only requires me to stay in the top 50%, and I really don't think that will be a problem at all.

Choosing the Right Law School / T3 with $ or T2?
« on: March 13, 2007, 02:51:18 PM »
So I've found myself in a situation that I think many other potential law students can identify with.  I got a 160 on my LSAT, but my UGPA ended up at 2.8 according to the wonderful folk at LSAC.  So that left me with good enough LSATs to be competitive with many Tier 2 schools, but not the grades.  Tier 3 schools, however, seem very interested in people within that range of LSAT scores.

I applied to a range of schools.  What I've ended up with is basically a great offer at a Tier 3 school (Gonzaga with 15K per year) and offers of admission (with no $$$) from a few lower T2 schools (Seattle, Lewis & Clark, and I have not yet heard from DePaul but I like my chances).

My thinking is to take the money and go to Gonzaga.  I'm not exactly sure what I want to do after law school, and I'd rather not be constricted in my options due to heavy debt.  So I figure if I go to Gonzaga, do very well there, and graduate with a lot less debt, that I will be sitting in a better position than paying out the nose for a lower T2 school.

Is my logic sound?  Or do the T2 schools provide such better opportunities as to outweigh the debt consideration?  I'm interested in any and all opinions on this.

I think the information about the publications of the schools, how their grading scales and distinctions worked, etc. can be very useful.

Yeah, thats what I got from it too.  This isn't some sort of top secret publication that will help you crack the top legal firms in the nation, but it does have some useful background information for aspiring law students.  I found the break-down of grading scales to be of particular value.

this one is current.  note that its limited to the top fifty schools though

I registered to the site just to bump this.  Lotta great info in there, even if it is a little scary.

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