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Incoming 1Ls / Re: How many students get A's
« on: June 09, 2008, 09:22:57 PM »
it depends a lot on the professor. also, I don't know how many other schools do it this way, but USC grades using a 4.0 scale using all the tenths. So, for example, you can get a 3.5, a 3.6, a 3.7, a 3.8, etc. I think this tends to make the spread tighter than if regular A,A-,B+, etc. grades were used.

But just to give you something to look at, in my classes for the spring semester: 4 out of 65 in my con law class got a 3.8 and up (6%), 5 out of 53 in my crim law got 3.8s and up (9%), 5 out of 63 in my ethics class got 3.8s and up (8%), 6 out of 62 (10%). My school's median is a 3.2, and somewhere I heard that about 20% of students end up getting an A at some point in their first year.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Done with 1L; Taking Questions; Doling Sage Advice
« on: June 06, 2008, 10:05:48 AM »
I thought I'd put in my own two cents.

Some of you, believe it or not, will be disappointed and discouraged by your first semester's grades. I've had classmates, some of whom were the talkative types in class, who basically shut up, stopped going to class, etc.

But grades DO change. I was bottom half first semester, and my second semester grades are probably around where the top 10% will be. I mention this because I think people lose sight of the fact that they really can change their fortunes.

I'm not sure that anyone will remember this come january, but I figure it doesn't hurt to try and stem some of the crippling discouragement some people find first semester grades to be. Don't underestimate the emotional aspect of law school.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Transferring
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:51:04 AM »
How difficult (or impossible) would it be to transfer from a tier 2 part-time program to a full-time or part-time division at a T20?

My impression is that it depends on your grades and what school you're trying to get into as the number of transfer spots varies a lot from school to school. Also, most take into account undergrad/lsat records.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USC ($$) v. Northwestern
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:45:03 AM »
As a general rule, if you know you want the east coast, go to Northwestern even if you think you want sunshine for three years. From what I've seen, USC seems to do fine in NY and DC, and more and more of the students USC has been recruiting are going back east. But that's still a fairly small portion. But there's no doubt you have more opportunities to do high-end DC/NY work from Northwestern than USC.

My own impression on the LA situation is that Northwestern doesn't actually have the "name" power that many people think it does in this region. I know that's different elsewhere, but the few conversations that I've had involving Northwestern have caused me to think this. My guess is that in terms of how deep they go into the class and the like, USC and Northwestern come roughly equal in SoCal. It's impossible for me to say for sure though, and I don't think this extends even to Northern California.


I should make a note here that for top law schools going into top firms, people underestimate the national nature of firms. I've been doing some early research for my OCI in August, and many of the large LA firms have offices around the country as well. Many of the large NY/DC firms have offices in LA. Pretty much everyone who has an office in Southern California comes to OCI. Not all firms will do OCI for all their branches, but a significant number do and many will help direct you to the right people in the other offices if they don't.

If you want a list of regular OCI employers with DC and NY offices, feel free to PM me and I'll send it to you. But keep in mind that USC also does a combined OCI-like thing in DC and NY with UCLA that includes many more firms in DC and NY from my understanding.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UCLA v Vanderbilt
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:25:33 AM »
I think given the similarities, you're just going to get people's personal preferences.

But really i just wanted to say LA is still a smoggy city. Just because CA enforces stringent emissions standards doesn't mean that the mountains/hills don't contain the pollution. People also spend lots of time driving, and car density is huge.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« on: May 28, 2008, 09:52:11 PM »
because my write on is due in under two days, I thought I'd give this thread one more bump for any questions that might still be out there. Also, I'd love to hear where those coming from far away ended up living (not specifically, mind you, but generally).

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Sorry Lenovo Lovers
« on: May 05, 2008, 04:31:36 PM »
i use an x61 and love it. I've had zero problems with it in the 9 months or so I've had it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: April 20, 2008, 07:41:30 PM »
my ex is living near the main campus in a house in a room with her own bathroom, etc. for 550 a month.

i think you get more out of visits when you've done a lot of research, but yeah... nothing beats actually visiting.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USC 1L Answers Questions
« on: April 17, 2008, 04:17:07 PM »

You mentioned the summer fellowships in the NYU vs USC forum. Are students notified of their acceptance into these programs right when they are accepted? How does it work?

not having one (blast!), i'm not entirely sure. I think most are notified around when they get their scholarship info, but i know at least one girl who got hers a week from when school was beginning because they had one left over or something like that.

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