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Incoming 1Ls / Re: ITT 1L's give 0L's suggestions for next year
« on: September 15, 2008, 02:20:56 PM »

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Contrapositive
« on: August 21, 2008, 05:57:08 PM »
Would the contrapositive be "if x and y ---> no z?  And/or would it be if no x and no y ---> no z?

Because if z then you don't have x and y, nor do you have no x and no y...

sorry to persist, but this one rule messes me up...and BTW, it's from a game, not LR.  I rarely diagram conditional reasoning in LR either...but this was from a game where up to 5 out of 7 (or 8?) trees are in a forest and the rest are not...

I appreciate your helping me out :).

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Contrapositive
« on: August 21, 2008, 05:27:32 PM »
If the stand carries watermelons, then it carries figs or tangerines or both.

Is the diagram for this rule:

W --> F or T or both

~F and ~T --> ~W

Correct? I think it is, but just want to make sure.

That's fine.  But "or both" is unnecessary.  Anytime you see "this or that" the possibility of both is implied.  You just have to watch out for when it says, "This or that BUT NOT BOTH."  That's when it gets nasty.

EarlCat, would you (or anyone who knows) mind explaining how to diagram the "x or y but not both" rule?  I saw that rule on a logic game about trees in a forest and that rule made it particularly difficult.

Any further info would be greatly appreciated...

Yeah, it was timed.  I don't know exactly how long it took me for the snake game - it may have been as long as ten minutes or so, maybe a bit longer.  The game that followed, the grouping game with the movies was very quick though...

I took that PT this morning.  I got my highest score yet on a PT - a 173 (although, it was a pretty forgiving curve).

I'm also interested in any responses to the snake/lizard set up.  I found I just had to apply the rules to each question and it was time consuming.  Maybe that's the deal with this game, but if anyone out there would have relied on inferences, I'd be happy to hear all about it...because I certainly haven't cornered the market on Games...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: My advice to the starting 1Ls (LONG)
« on: August 06, 2008, 09:48:15 AM »
Tag.  Thanks, Matthies!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT contest
« on: August 04, 2008, 08:58:28 PM »
this thread had promise but went right down the

Is that LSAT prep material in that toilet?  'Cause that ain't right.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT contest
« on: August 04, 2008, 07:32:58 PM »
Yeah, I'm working through the LGB and redoing all the games several times, making sure I find every inference, etc.  It's been helpful.  I'm finding that doing the games repeatedly is helpful. 

Any advice you can offer on games will be appreciated.  You seem to have it well covered.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT contest
« on: August 04, 2008, 06:55:58 PM »
Hey, TM, which PT did you take and how did you do?  Also, since you're retaking, what's your method of studying... if you don't mind me asking.

Don't mind at all! I love talking about my study habits instead of actually studying... I took PT46 and got a 173. I took it a little late and I think I suffered a bit on the RC, missed 1-2 each LR, 5 (i think) on RC and 0 on LG.

My method of studyng is completing the LRB and LSAT workout. I'm a few chapters away from completing the LRB and this is the second PT I have done since June LSAT. I preped the first test by doing the LGB and PT up to around 20 something. Turned out to be a bit of a mistake as the LSAT has changed significantly since then with respect to the style of RC and how many LG questions there are on the test. The LRB is helping a lot and I'm excited to try the LSAT workout. I also ordered the new RCB which is shipping in September. Fortunatly I didn't exhaust all my prep options so I can still stay fresh and improve.

Tim Mitchell, you're a good man and true.  I may invest in the RCB   too and I'll look into the LSAT workout (haven't heard of it before).  Best of luck to you. 

And that picture of the little dude playing basketball? Awesome.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT contest
« on: August 04, 2008, 05:08:43 PM »
Time to do another timed PrepTest. However, I've come up with an ingenious was to stave of LSD cravings between sections. After the test I'll refresh this thread and whoever posts the funniest/randomest thing wins a prize

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