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Current Law Students / Re: Did I study too much?
« on: January 05, 2007, 05:45:08 PM »
Don't study like everyone tells you to study.  Study the way you feel comfortable.  If you don't know what your doing or how to study their way, you become more anxious and don't really learn what you study.  Find what works for you.  I don't outline.  I don't understand the process myself.  It does not work for me. No I am not at the top of my class and only make good grades, but I also don't try and barely study, so I am by no means an example of how to study, but my opinion is you can't learn through a process uncomfortable to you.  Try something else this semester.

My professors have all said the same thing.  The worst mistake students make studying is to just learn the material.  You have to do hypos and practice questions so that you can apply what you learn to the fact pattern provided.  Just like the guy in the Paper Chase, you can memorize every piece of information out there, but if you can't use that information, that knowledge will not help you as a lawyer.

Current Law Students / Re: Who else is dying to see their grades?
« on: January 05, 2007, 05:31:57 PM »
Anyone know why law schools wait so long to give out grades?  Students in other programs get their grades earlier.

Most schools give grades based on the classes performance.  You are not graded on the quality of your work alone, but rather by the quality of your work compared the the quality of the work of your classmates.  Then they have to adjust the grades to fit the school's determined curve.  In other programs it's like undergraduate where you get what you get.  If everyone does A quality work, then everyone gets an A.  Therefore, the profs in those programs only read your exam essays once.  Most of my profs say they read the exams a minimum of three times to determine grades.  So, an example, 3 times 90 (number of people in the class) is 270 essays, times 2 (for 2 essays) and that's 540 essays to read for just one class.  And, that is if they only gave you two essays.  Most profs have at least two classes each semester so 1080 essays to read in a month?  I'm not really sure how they do it myself.

Current Law Students / Re: Do most law schools rank part time students?
« on: October 12, 2006, 08:24:34 PM »
My school ranks you by the number of hours you have.  1L is 0-30, 2L is 31-60, 3L is 61-90+.  You are ranked with the other people in those credit hour ranges.  So rankings can fluctuate depending on the semester and who is in your range pool.

Current Law Students / Re: Loans
« on: October 12, 2006, 08:11:25 PM »
It's very common.  Almost all of the people I talk to have the federal loans to pay tuition, and many of us have private loans to pay the bills.

Current Law Students / Re: What happens to graduates from 4th tier schools?
« on: September 28, 2006, 04:59:16 PM »
If your school has a career services department, go talk to them.  Mine routinely offers seminars in all the different aspects of getting a job when you graduate.  They do one about non-legal careers that are available with a J.D.  There are many options out there.

However, just because you are going to a T4 school does not mean you can not get a job.  I go to a T4 school and our job placement rate is in the 80% range within 9 months of graduating.  Now, if your concerned because of your grades, then that's another story.  However, if you are already in your 3rd year, you should finish because it is a doctoral degree that can be used in many ways and it would be a shame to waste all the time and money you have already spent.

And to the people that think T4 schools should be shut down, you need to get real.  T4 schools are good schools whether your egotistical brain can comprehend it or not.  Also remember that new schools have to start somewhere.  My school is only 6 years old, you don't become a T1 overnight, but we are sure working on getting there.  And all schools "teach to the bar" you kidding yourself if you think differently. 

Current Law Students / Re: LRW not really as demanding?
« on: September 28, 2006, 04:35:46 PM »
Are you talking about students at your school saying LRW is demanding, or in general?  All the schools have different programs.  Mine is actually LARW and it was demanding because we had to write a lot of memos.  They started with one section, next memo add anoter section, then a full memo.  2nd semester you do your own research and write a memo and a trial brief.  Third semester you research and write an apellate brief.  In addition to the research and writing,you have classroom busy work.  Depending on your prof, you may or may not have to read. Plus, it's all relevant if you are good at research and writing or not.  If it's easy for you, then the class is not demanding at all.  If it's hard for you, then it's very demanding.  As in all classes, it depends on your strengths and weakness, your school program, and your prof.

Current Law Students / Re: So Far
« on: September 28, 2006, 04:10:46 PM »
For anyone that thinks bankruptcy is an option:

Taken from Bankruptcy in Brief. The Moran Law Group website:
"The borrower's bankruptcy options on student loans have shrunk to a very few.  Changes to the Bankruptcy Code in late 1998 made student loans non dischargeable, regardless of the age of the loan, unless the borrower can establish substantial hardship.  Changes in 2005 made even private student loans non dischargeable.

Absent a showing of substantial hardship, the best that bankruptcy can do with respect to student loans may be to eliminate other debts that compete for the borrower's dollars, or to provide a measure of peace during a Chapter 13 case.   Some courts will permit debtors to separately classify student loans in Chapter 13 and pay them a greater percentage than other unsecured debt.

It may also be possible to challenge either the enforceability or the accounting issues surrounding a student loan in bankruptcy."

Current Law Students / Re: How do people know what others rankings are?
« on: September 28, 2006, 03:57:24 PM »
You can piecemeal together who is at the top, but not completely.  Not everyone in the top will be doing OCI's as some already have offers, and others will be looking for positions in the government arena and they don't tend to do OCI's.  As far as the rest of the class, you will never know unless you ask and they reveal their status. 

And no, you don't have to play the grade game and compete if you don't want to.  I call those people grade addicts and tell them to just leave me alone, I'm not interested. 

Current Law Students / Re: BEST STUDY AIDS?
« on: September 28, 2006, 03:16:50 PM »
I believe it depends on your professor.  The best advice I got was from a TA with academic support.  He said to go visit with your professor in his/her office and look around at the books on the shelf.  Sometimes you can find study aids on their shelves that they use, other times you can find out what authors they look at the most and see if those authors wrote a study aid for the class.

If that doesn't work, look for one's either written by your textbook's author, or is keyed to the textbook you are using.  Although Gilbert's and Glannon seem to be the ones my professors have recommended if you are going to use one.

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