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Online Law Schools / Re: Stop Hiding behind your ABA school...
« on: February 24, 2007, 05:14:03 PM »
the baby bar is not hard, the reason the pass rates are soo low is that DL and non aba schools admit anyone with a credit card. The whole I will pass the hardest bar in the nation argument is moot as very few dls ever pass the bar.  Just do the math a huge portion do not pass the baby bar and of those that do a tiny portion pass the bar.  ...

So is your issue with all DL students who have degrees, or just the ones that don't pass the Bar?

Online Law Schools / Re: Stop Hiding behind your ABA school...
« on: February 23, 2007, 12:58:13 PM »
By the way, the California Bar Exam is the HARDEST in the United States...actually the BABY BAR is harder than some states actual bar exam.

Just out of curiosity, is there anything to backup these statements, or is it just anecdotal?

Current Law Students / Re: Who here f#$#@#g! hates law school right now
« on: February 21, 2007, 09:10:57 AM »
I am at a tier 2 law school, and I am hating my experience.  Its the deadlines,
You hate having to get things done on time...
the calling in classes used to force you to read cases,
You hate having to get your work done...
its the intense legal writing papers that are scrutinized down to every last word
You hate having the quality of your work examined...
....on top of that, at a tier 2 you are forced to despise your classmates because of the pressure to get a good class ranking.
You hate having to earn what you get and competing with other people...
  I guess this is more of a rant than anything useful to post.  I was just wondering if there is anyone feeling this right now, and are considering dropping to go do work full time in something else more fun and exciting?

Yea, I don't think that the legal profession is for you. 

On the other hand though, I'm not sure what that collection of characteristics does qualify you for. ::)

Online Law Schools / Re: Stop Hiding behind your ABA school...
« on: February 15, 2007, 12:53:18 PM »
Some interesting points.  I do agree with one time that an online JD will face significant hardships entering the legal field, but I think that there are several other positive points about DL schools that often do not get mentioned:

1) The business world is becoming more remote.

In the past, people being in the same physical location was how things were done.  More and more now, business is conducted remotely.  Whether by email, video conferencing, phone conferencing, faxing, or some other sort of medium, the environment is increasingly becoming a remote one.  Considering this, the experience that DL students get achieving results outside of the B & M model is actually a very positive experience for moving into the "real" world.

2) The law is demanding more specific knowledge.

The days of lawyers doing anything and everything are dwindling.  Increasingly, a level of knowledge of a field outside of the law is being demanded.  DL school are a great step forward in allowing actively practicing professionals in a given field to add a legal education to their current skill base.  As is continually emphasized in the course work, knowledge of the black letter law counts for little without the ability to apply it to a set of facts.  In this capacity, people who add a law degree to existing degrees and experience will have a significant edge. 

I know that with out the DL school allowing me to continue to work my full time job while studying, I would not be able to attend law school at all.  When I am done, I will be able to combine a MS in Software Development, and 10 years of experience in the field with a JD degree.  I think it will allow for some interesting opportunities. 

As a further example, when I was taking the Baby Bar this past October, I was standing around with two of my class mates (who I had just met for the first time).  One was a surgeon with 20 years of experience, and the other was a CPA and tax investigator for the government.  You can see the opportunities that they will have that a person with just a law degree would not be eligible for.

3) The DL model is closer to what will be expected in the "real world".

I have attended both B & M and DL schools, and the methods of studying, the habits required, and means of feedback of the DL schools much more closely match what I experience in the business world.  I think that the business world will eventually come to recognize that a person who has the drive and discipline to learn law through a DL program possesses several of the qualities that they are looking for in employees.

4) Something is better than nothing.

A lot of the comments that I see on this board against DL are along the lines "why don't you just go to a B & M school", "If you were serious, you would just find a way to go to a B & M school".  I always assume that most of these comments come from people who don't have a family and a mortgage.  It is nice to think that you could just stop your life and drop everything for three years, and move to a law school.  This sounds good on an internet chat board, but it is not really that easy.  Perhaps it does not yet carry the full prestige  and have all of the opportunities of a Tier 1 degree, but sometimes you have to do the best you can with what you have.  I had the choice that I could sit around and wish that I could go to a B & M law school and whine that I couldn't, or I could attend a DL school.

In any case, ultimately the acceptance of the DL degree will be determined by the quality of the students that it produces.  I'm sure that this process will take at least a decade, but eventually the functionality of the graduates will determine the fate of DL programs.

Online Law Schools / Re: William Howard Taft University
« on: February 12, 2007, 12:46:24 PM »
AS far as I'm aware, the only states that allow a LL.M. following a non-ABA JD to qualify for the Bar are Connecticut and NC.

Online Law Schools / LL.M. programs that accept Distance Learning JD
« on: February 08, 2007, 07:23:30 AM »
Does anyone know of ABA-approved LL.M programs that will accept a DL JD degree?

Current Law Students / How do the "Final" questions compare?
« on: September 01, 2006, 11:26:41 AM »
I am a 1L at Taft U (distance).  I am taking my finals in the next few days, and (assuming I pass), the Baby Bar in Oct.

I have been doing MC in the "Finals" books, and I am curious how those questions compare to what is actually on the Baby Bar?

I've been getting between 75% - 85% on the practice questions.


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