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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Attending Rutgers Camden
« on: February 12, 2007, 05:42:14 PM »
If I go to Rutgers Camden what kind of a job am I looking at coming out of there? I do not want some top corporate job, but i also dont want to be a public defender. Could i get a good job in philly or ny? or just nj? I really want to go there, and i am committed to living in philly/nj area for a while. I just want to realistically know what I will do before I am going to do it. Feedback people!

have you checked their website?

looks like over half stay in NJ and another 30% are in Philly. 

I'm another aspiring tax lawyer.  I think I'd like to do a few years in Midlaw just to get the experience, but eventually I can see myself doing estate plans out of my home office.  Granted, I don't know if that's when I'm 45 or 65, but someday!

i envision a similar path but am seriously considering starting a joint practice with one or more of my financial planner friends after I get some experience in the field.

ideally I'd hang my own shingle and be a 'country lawyer'.  specialize in wills, trusts, estates and tax/real estate for small companies and individuals.

in at and planning to attend Temple's Evening Program, only school I applied to.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Money for Part Time students
« on: February 04, 2007, 07:03:43 AM »
The full time students get anywhere between $10-20K allotted for living expenses..

What about the part time people?  Do they get the same $10-20K allotted?  Or do they get a fraction of this or none at all?

Can't speak for all schools, but Temple works this way

Cost of Attendance
Pennsylvania ResidentNon-Resident
Full Time Day$34,002$44,564
Full Time Evening & Part Time Day$30,830$39,278

The COA includes living expenses so the #'s are close.  Only difference is the difference in tuition.

Law School Admissions / Re: Part Time JD Applications
« on: February 01, 2007, 12:08:46 PM »
Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew if you have a better shot of getting into schools by applying initially part time (then attempting to transfer into the full time program) Is this a lot less competitive? Does work experience count more?  Which schools are best to try this at?

Any insight would be great!

the admission standards are generally lower for PT programs but I don't think it will be 'a lot less competitive'.  There are various reasons why this is the case; smaller applicant pool; more emphasis on things like work experience; etc.  And the Captain is correct, not all schools will let you switch programs and those that do may have strict requirements to do so.  Definitely do some research before applying if you are determined to try and switch after the first year.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: PT vs. FT employment prospects.
« on: January 31, 2007, 07:05:03 PM »
So the Temple PT grad answering your question worked in the admissions office?  Am i getting this right?  That doesnt say much for job prospects out of Temple a PT grad at least...  Anecdotal, but still.

there was no indication that she went to work for Temple straight from school.  as far as I know, she worked for years as a lawyer and then decided she wanted to do something different.  I didn't ask.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: PT vs. FT employment prospects.
« on: January 31, 2007, 04:18:51 PM »
Thank you for the responses ... interesting feedback from the Temple P/T student as well. BTW, in terms of class rank, are the FT and PT students considered as part of the same pool? Or is there a top of the FT class and a top of the PT class?

Also, to sound completely nebiw, what does OCI stand for?

not 100% sure but I have to assume that since you are finishing at different times (4 years rather than 3), FT and PT would almost have to be seperate in terms of class rank.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: PT vs. FT employment prospects.
« on: January 31, 2007, 10:07:55 AM »
I will be attending Temple PT in the fall and had many of the same questions.  I emailed one of their admissions people who put me in touch with someone else in admissions who went PT.  I asked her about the same things you mention and here are the highlights.

Pursuing law school in the evening is not always easy, but if your schedule allows some flexibility, you are able to participate in all law school activities.  This, of course, includes OCI, law journals, trial team and many other opportunities.

Many of the large law firms are interested in the top 10 to 15 percent of the class, but many other employers are also interested in your skills and employment history.  In this way, evening students have some advantages.  Because many evening students have a solid work history and unique skills, they have more to offer a prospective employer.

First off, a disclaimer.  I, nor anyone I know, have ever attempted to transfer from Widener to Temple.  However, here are my thoughts...

Nothing personal but with your #'s I'd imagine you missed getting into Temple by a fairly wide margin.  I understand there are extenuating circumstances with your GPA but #'s are still #'s. 

Having said that, I'd imagine they would want to see you closer to the top 5-10% of your class in order to consider you as a solid transfer applicant.  Remember, there are going to be any # of other students looking to transfer as well, and many of those probably have LSAT/GPA #'s that were closer to their entry requirements.

And, if you are in the top 5-10% of your class, does it really make sense to transfer?  Sure, Temple has a better reputation than Widerner, but I know several people who have graduated from Widerner and are doing just fine.  And if you are in the top 5-10%, I would say you'd have just as good a chance at landing a good job as you would in the top 10% of any of the other Philly area schools (minus Penn).

Anyway, just my $0.02

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