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Job Search / Re: State Clerkships
« on: November 28, 2007, 12:36:40 PM »
Very competitive.  People have told me that intermediate appellate and trial courts are easier than state supreme courts (at least to obtain interviews).  But the only interview offer I ever received was with a state supreme court.   

Job Search / Re: Turning a State Court clerkship into fed. clerkship
« on: November 28, 2007, 12:34:41 PM »
I actually think it would be worthwhile to try to do both, particularly if you are going to remain in that jurisdiction.  Whether or not you want to go into teaching, it provides a great deal of insight into the law at both the appellate and trial level. 

Current Law Students / Re: Moral Character
« on: February 17, 2007, 03:02:16 PM »
I think some states ask "Have you used illegal drugs in the last 5 years" or some such nonsense.  I doubt very few people without records answer in the affirmative.

 There are legal positions where they deem it relevant. The background check for the Justice Department (even to intern) is pretty intensive.  Ditto for clerkships and what not.

 Hell, when you work in a federal building Homeland Security requires fingerprints.  No joke.

Current Law Students / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: February 17, 2007, 02:58:19 PM »
In terms of reputation, Wayne is the better deal. But it is also harder to maintain a 3.25 than a 3.0, and I think that is true for both schools. That is, I think it will be easier to maintain your scholarship at MSU.

 I know many Wayne grads, and they all loved it. Personally, I would choose Wayne.

I do not know how competitive the state internships are.  It is more difficult for 1Ls (at least in California),  because many students have not taken criminal procedure or evidence.

 In addition to the list provided by your career development office, a lot of public defenders maintain websites with their clerk hiring information.

Current Law Students / Looking for a Good Supplement
« on: January 28, 2007, 03:53:02 PM »
I'm in an (awful) class that uses Corporations and Other Business Enterprises, by Hazen and Markham.  The class is a year-long course, and I did OK first semester (B+), but essentially you teach yourself in this class, and I absolutely hate business law.  Does anyone know of a good supplement for this book?

Completely fine. I attend a school where the writing class is full year and notorious for being, well, horrible. I finished with a flat B and I was still in the top ten percent. Our instructor handed out an A- to the student who performed the best in our writing section. As far as I am concerned, the class is a joke. It rewarded form over substance, they did not use bluebook for citation (can you believe it?), etc. I would not sweat a low writing grade.

Current Law Students / Re: Am I doomed if I am starting outlining today?
« on: December 04, 2006, 11:33:26 PM »
I think the process is different for everyone. Last year I outlined, but poorly in some classes and I did not really use them, I relied more on hypos and sample exams. This year I took old outlines and modified them for most courses, to reflect differences in class approach and coverage. I also did some flashcards to force myself to think about the rules.

 But I think this is sufficient only because I had the opportunity to try a variety of approaches, and outlining in the end just did not do as much as going through hypos and Examples and Explanations. I would recommend that a 1L try outlining at least the first semester.

Transferring / Re: Michigan State Uni. (MSU) or Rutgers-Newark?
« on: November 25, 2006, 07:51:15 PM »
Personally, I would go to Rutgers unless they offered you money that made it worth attending. A friend of mine has a scholarship that covers 75% of tuition, and she has her share of complaints. I doubt that MSU name recognition offers you an overwhelming advantage in the international arena, at least not one that is offset by attending school in the northeast. Their rankings will go up, but remember that everyone plays the rankings game, and MSU College of Law is still a private institution. It took Dickenson a while to crawl to its current ranking.

 Also, your interests may very well change when you start law school. I started wanting to practice international law and I'm now a criminal defense convert.

 That aside, while I have never visited Newark, I did live in East Lansing for four years. I really enjoyed it. And while I do not know what effort the College of Law makes with respect to international practice, MSU has an extensive international studies program. In absolute numbers, they send the most students abroad for study, I believe, and as part of my undergrad program I interned with the UN in Thailand. So lots of opportunities at the university level.

Current Law Students / Re: The battle against everything I have been taught
« on: November 06, 2006, 08:38:35 PM »
It really is just the process of outlining that helps you. I looked at other outlines and copied none of them. They gave me ideas for structure. I ended up in the top 10%. And to be honest, I barely touched my outlines after I made them. I basically did hypos and practice exams to prepare for finals.

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