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I actually think the content of this essay isn't so bad, if you would just pick one of the examples. Too much of your essay repeats how others thought badly of your decisions and the personal statement is supposed to be about you. It's okay to mention how you were strong and independent enough to make your own decisions, but right now the focus seems to be: "all these people told me not to, but everything turned out well for me, haha to them." If you started out with some hook describing the conflicting feelings inside you as you knew you had to choose between Georgia Tech and Southern Poly, and then really took the reader through your decision making process, it would allow the admission committee to know more about you, instead about your vindication about your decisions. You could do the same thing with your decision about high schools or marriage (although I don't know how adcoms view personal statements about relationships. I've actually always wondered about this, so anyone who does know, please enlighten me) if you choose. However, I agree with lollypotter that your second essay idea seems more interesting and compelling, but I know some schools require additional essays, so I just wanted to tell you that your original idea isn't completely hopeless =)

I actually don't disagree with much of this. But I still think the original essay was scarily not good.

Wow, you took that criticism well  ;) Look, I'm really really happy to look it over so pm me. Your next example sounds sooooo much better and you will get into Emory regardless so relax!

I haven't posted in forever but I had to come on to counter the terrible advice that you are getting here

1. Your content is terrible. for a start, it is your resume and they already see that. You are wasting an opportunity to tell them something special and unique about yourself and you are spending talking about college admissions and extra curriculars.

2. There is no logical flow in your essay.It is full of vague cliches about 'choosing the different path' and how you got 'backlash'. Well, what backlash? You don't explain. And how did you 'know' that these were the right choices for you? Again, you don't elaborate. your examples makes no sense. What does the conclusion have to do with the introduction?

You will get into Emory but it won't be because of this essay (which is terrible). Pick ONE event/issue and use it as the narrative. DESCRIBE this incident with some actual detail instead of vague generalities. IMPLY how this makes you fit with the school. (what has people always criticizing you for your choices got to do with Emory?)

Guy above is a shill

Good luck.

Black Law Students / Re: White Attendance @ HBCU's (motives)
« on: January 31, 2009, 04:17:54 AM »

'Byron' probably likes hip hop and has dated a couple of black girls so clearly, he knows what we're about. I mean, the poor little white guy - they might not even let him into Howard!


Black Law Students / Re: Religion & Black People
« on: January 16, 2009, 04:06:44 AM »

Black Law Students / Re: Religion & Black People
« on: January 08, 2009, 01:15:34 PM »
That's cute

Why don't you educate me? I mean I'm such a fool you should be able to lick me into shape in no time. And while I've demonstrated that you're a moron, all you've done is tell me that I'm a fool. Why don't you show me that I'm a fool by stringing a coherent sentence together to refute my arguments.

I mean, are you sure you don't have the time? I mean you thought you had time to start a discussion topic about religion and black people and post it on a discussion forum for comment. I would think you would have all the time in the world to show that, beyond being able to spell those words correctly, you have any conception of what they actually mean and the connection between them. 

Black Law Students / Re: Religion & Black People
« on: January 06, 2009, 05:18:45 AM »
You have no response to any of my substantive points. I'm actually shocked. I thought you'd at least try to pick apart a tangential point in the hope of saving face.

hmmm. So you hide behind what you think is humor. You must spend your time with complete retards if you've been allowed to get away with that up to the age of 25. Well, I'm not just a psychologist, but also a life coach. My advice to you - turn off the tv and pick up a book. Right now you probably couldn't hold your own against a well informed teenager.

Black Law Students / Re: Religion & Black People
« on: January 05, 2009, 05:34:48 AM »

You really aren't very smart, are you? Believe me, I'm refraining from deeper personal attacks only out of courtesy. A tip for the future: reading is a good skill. It's fun to see a few words and spout nonsense, but generally trying to understand complete sentences before you start a three year academic program is probably wise.

Let's deal with your points in turn.

1. 'Jesus was not responsible for civil rights.

*Sigh*. Firstly, that's not what I said. What I said was that it was a powerful social force in African American history. Which it was, this is historical fact. The black church has been a substantial part of black culture and civil rights movement for generations. This is not to say that 'Jesus helped people' or whatever wider claims you are attributing to me, only that the black church has status in the African American community for socio-political reasons. It is not 'in vogue' any more than race is 'in vogue'.

Your point about a 'yearning to be free' powering civil rights is just further evidence of your stupidity. The yearning for freedom and equality is probably innate and universal to all human beings. Of course it is at the heart of any movement for equality or freedom. No one is saying that chrstianity created it or even owns it, what I am saying is that the African American church had a crucial role is organizing for civil rights in American history. This is fact. After people want freedom, they generally have to do things like march, fight even, and get bills passed and the church played a huge role in this. This is why a lot of African American people have a connection to and respect for the church. Again, this is fact. You pretending that people like christianity just because it is in 'vogue' is insulting to the history of the oppression of African Americans and the struggle to overcome it. People gave their entire lives to the cause of freedom and these are people who would be in their 70s and 80s, and the children they raised would have watched their parents be beat down, abused, despised and seen the black church as one of few institutions which supported the community through these times. And you dare insult or look down on them because you don't think they are sufficiently 'detached' or as 'enlightened' as you. Maybe the women in your church are being preyed on but that doesn't mean you're not a self righteous fool. You would think that you would want to help them and help the church be better but you have no empathy or understanding of their feelings and frankly are not mature enough to own it.

2. Interacting with the black church means being a Christian

 ::) I never said that. You just hear what you want to hear. I said that you needed to bring a different attitude to your dealings with it. I am telling you (though I'm sure you won't hear it) how many strong factors contribute to people's commitment to the church. If you try to interact with the church without taking the strength of those feelings and their origin into account, you are gonna look like a fool, though I doubt you will ever end up doing anything useful with your life anyway.

3. You're Christian because you were brought up in it.

Good God, it's like talking to someone who's slow. Gonna take this point really slowly for you: my parents raised me in a Christian home. I was raised to believe in God and to be a Christian and so that obviously was my default position. Then as I got older I came to question my belief system and look deeper into it, and after weighing it up... I decided that I believed in God and wanted to be a Christian. Now, wait a second, isn't this the same thing that happened to you except you decided to be an agnostic?

Wow - give me a call when you mature into adulthood. People made different choice to you so they must not have thought about it! Many many people get to an age where they question and reassess their beliefs, prejudices, biases and choose different paths, and they choose many different things. And what do you say to people who aren't raised as christians but choose it anyway? Do you understand how unbelievably arrogant it is to assume that only people with your exact viewpoints have ever had any independent thought? I have friends of all religions and atheists and agnostics too, I have my beliefs and they have theirs and I respect them even when I disagree with them. But to imagine that I am the only one of us who has ever been able to look back critically or rationally at my own life or upbringing, to imagine that I am the only one to ever make a 'real choice', everyone else just being a slave to the masses or their parents, is so far beyond arrogance, it's unreal. This is what I mean that you think you are smarter than everyone else. I bet you hold onto your agnosticism as a way to try to differentiate yourself as smarter than people because it is the only thing you can cling to. Your arguments are vague and moronic - I'd worry about worry about the basic stuff like stringing coherent thoughts together before I go after the big fish like disproving God. 

Here's another crazy idea - you are yet to show that just because something is believed from childhood, that makes it untrue. In other words, you are yet to show that christianity is false just because my parents taught it to me. Guess what else my parents taught to me - equality, justice, love - are all these things invalidated because I didn't independently discover them in my twenties?

And by the way, just because something is believed by the masses doesn't make it wrong either. If I was brought up locked in a cellar by a child molester I would have a set of beliefs and values which would differ from most children. I think we would all agree that 'most children''s beliefs would be right in that case.

We teach our children many beliefs becasue we think they are right and this is the main issue - whether or not something is right or wrong doesn't turn on whether it is taught to you as a child, it turns on whether it is right or wrong. I don't tell my children to grow up and make up their own mind about whether 'child molestation is wrong' or 'murder is wrong', I teach them as children and I'm sure you'd agree with that.

If you were born in the 1850s into a rich white family in Alabama I bet you'd be racist and ignorant. Does that mean that that racial equality and economic justice are not universal concepts that are always right? Just because you'd be a racist in that family doesn't mean that racist and not racist are morally equal standards. So you're probably saying - so how do we know which religion/viewpoint is right? We each make a judgement call and what people chose can be different. It's not clearcut and believe me, you have nothing to teach anyone. So whether or not God exists or Christianity is right is nothing to do with how I was raised or you were raised. My upbringing doesn't prove or disprove God, arguments about God's existence do.

Thus your main point 'you're only a Christian because you were raised one' is useless'. Being raised a christian doesn't mean you can't choose it, and just because it is being socially communicated doesn't make it false.

Look, I get it. You are basically approaching this as a child trapped in an argument with mommy. You think you are free and detached, you are just as reactive and blind as all the people you look down on. Grow up and see the world as it actually is - social institutions and people are complex and the world is full of shades of grey. Try to approach it with a bit of compassion and one mindedness instead of throwing the equivalent of a ten year intellectual tantrum when you are hit with the disappointment of adolescence.

Black Law Students / Re: Religion & Black People
« on: January 03, 2009, 11:10:03 AM »
Christianity wasn't 'in vogue' in the black community, it was part of a support system which helped said community through generations of dehumanizing and oppressive treatment. 

I'm genuinely not trying to insult you but you seem to speak about both the black community and organized religion with no real insight. Have you recently come to self identify as black or are you generally just not very observant? This isn't about being religious (though full disclosure, I am), this is about understanding the history and social context of powerful societal forces. Whether or not you belive in Christianity, if you are a socially aware and reform minded black American inclined towards helping your community, you will interact at some point with the black church. But don't worry, I'm sure that acting like everyone else is stupider than you will work really well in engaging those people who you think the church traps (your post is brimming with compassion for them - maybe you are also part of the problem).

Gosh, that got a bit hostile, didn't it! Lol. Interestingly enough it's not really the religion part which annoys me, it's the lazy assumptions about 'black people and the church'. There is so much stellar political and social analysis out there on these issues, I just wonder why I, who am 2 years younger than you, but have worked for multple non profits, faith based and secular, can see all of these multi-layered contradictions and tensions, yet would never think to blithely announce them on the internet while you seem really take pride in your one dimensional analysis.

Irony abounds: there's a biblical verse and being a fool and keeping silent that comes to mind.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: ABA v. Non-ABA Law School
« on: November 26, 2008, 05:25:24 PM »
If this is true, this should warm the hearts of every fellow applicant.

Essentially: yes, people are this stupid.

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