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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Starting Salaries
« on: May 22, 2006, 02:46:57 PM »
I meant mean average, but median would work too. 

youre pretty out of touch.  you do realize nyc market is $145k?

No need to be a prick.  I obviously don't know the market for NYC lawyers.  That's kind of why I was asking.  I still don't think that it's 145 for the average.  I'm sure that there are some that top out around 160, but for an average?  I can't see anyway that if you take the entire graduating class for any law school that it would be 145.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I guess that would qualify me as being "out of touch."

average = mean, median, or mode... I take it you meant mean?  Median is probably more useful, but either way.

Let's say that any Harvard student can get biglaw somewhere. 

NYC market = 145k
I think DC is at 145
Philadelphia = 125
Atlanta = 115
Houston = 125?
Boston = 125
Chicago and SF, I'm not sure if it's gone up yet, it was 125, but they've started going up everywhere (hence 145 now being market in NYC)
Charlotte = 100

Depending on where you go, yes, salary will depend on how you finish in your class, and salary will definitely depend on location... but even in smaller legal markets like Minneapolis, Portland (OR), and Seattle, there are firms starting at over 100K.

This is biglaw, mind you.  Medium sized firms pay less.

I don't know why UT's starting salary couldn't be 115K.  Starting salary in Austin is 125, Houston and Dallas probably are too, and top Texas students can get jobs in any city, including the higher paying jobs in New York, DC, and the ones that are available in California.

market in houston is (was) 115k, unless it increased recently



Incoming 1Ls / Re: Nissan, Honda or Toyota...
« on: May 11, 2006, 08:09:35 PM »
get this; it has great gas mileage

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Assigned Summer Reading?
« on: May 09, 2006, 06:25:40 PM »
which school are we talking about here?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Assigned Summer Reading?
« on: May 09, 2006, 01:01:37 PM »
better start looking for another school

Incoming 1Ls / Re: OFFICIAL UCLA C/O 2009 THREAD!
« on: May 09, 2006, 01:01:16 PM »
I was wondering about the Weyburn status, too, so I emailed the UCLA housing office... they said:


Thank you for using Ask Housing.

The Weyburn lottery pool consists of 570 applicants (and is growing). If you weren't guaranteed housing by the Graduate Department. You are consider a Lottery applicants. A Lottery applicants are not guaranteed housing. Housing is offered to lottery applicants based on space availability. A limited number of lottery applicants are offered housing each academic year. Housing offer or wait list status will be e-mailed to lottery applicants by August.

Thank you,

Jay J.
UCLA Housing Services


I don't know how many spots are available, but this email made me feel like I should start thinking of alternatives.  The thing is, when I had talked to an admissions officer back in March, they made it sound like I (not just me but this year's incoming law students) don't have to worry about securing on-campus housing. 

A bit confusing... wish we could know by June.  If anyone else has any other info, I'd be interested to know :)

they dont give you much time to find other housing options

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Bash UCLA here
« on: May 06, 2006, 04:32:45 PM »
NYC sucks!  :D

yeah- what now

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Bash UCLA here
« on: May 06, 2006, 01:53:19 PM »

4)Not UCLA's fault.  With Beverly Hills right next door, you get people like that.  Fine, I'll give you one thing about people in LA being superficial (if they don't like you, they can hide it well, unlike in NY -- they scream at you).

Alright, while I don't care for the East vs. West coast tone that is apparent in the attitudes of many people on both sides of the argument (because I truly love NY and LA), this is one thing I will say I hate about NY and NYers.  I come from Southern/Western stock, and whether or not that is why, I was raised to be polite.  I think if you don't like someone, you can still be friendly and nice to them.  I call that polite.  People around here call it superficial.  I have had a lot of people at Columbia not like me because I am supposedly "superficial", and I have disliked a lot of people because I can't handle the unforgiving manner in which they let you know how they really feel about you.

I understand, of course, that there are other elements contributing to LA's reputation for superficiality - the emphasis on youth & beauty at any cost, mainly.  But being nice to everybody is just basic decency, and it sure makes life a lot more pleasant - I'm glad LA has figured that part out. 

I'm not from New York, but I am from the northeast (and I've spent a few years in the south), and I've got to say, the fake nice pisses me off.  Don't get me wrong, some people are geniunely extraordinarily nice, but a lot of people are just insincerely friendly.  SO annoying.

just had to jump in and say that I agree with this.  First off, I think NYers get a bump wrap for being mean. Well that's not the case.  The fact is, in NY and the NE for that matter, people don't feel the need to be nice to people they don't know.  Yet, if stop someone in the street and ask them a question, they will help you.  That's one thing I hate about the south--if you don't stop and wave and converse, you are seen as a feminine hygiene product, which is ridiculous.

i would rather people be polite than rude jsut because they dont know you.  Maybe they arent being fake, they just aren't being rude like you are used to, so you assume they are being insincere.  People dont have to be assholes to be "real"

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else flipping a coin...
« on: May 05, 2006, 11:06:29 PM »
i flipped a coin and didnt like what it said so I chose the other school

Incoming 1Ls / Re: if you had scored three points lower...
« on: May 05, 2006, 10:18:28 PM »
i would be paying a lot more to go the law school.

if i had scored three points higher I would be paying less.

either way, i think i would have ended up at the same place

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