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Choosing the Right Law School / USC 1L Answers Questions
« on: March 30, 2008, 10:02:12 AM »
There was a thread a while back, but I thought maybe it's wise to start anew now that people actually have acceptances in hand.

I'd be happy to answer your questions. I should say that my knowledge of "real" career placement (versus 1L) is anecdotal, so I wouldn't press too hard on this. That said, I'll try to do my best to answer any good faith questions.

I'd also be curious to hear what people thought of their visits. My property class on Fridays seems to get a lot of prospective students.

General Off-Topic Board / Browser Based Games
« on: May 25, 2007, 01:12:02 PM »
Just curious if anyone had a good browser based game they play regularly. I'm not really talking about flash games, but more like the type of game you can check once or twice a day to progress.

Currently I play (soccer manager game with tons of people) and tried some gladiator game called gladius ( ) the first one is really good, the second one is so-so. I also used to play Earth 2025, but that game got pretty old.

So what've you got to waste my time as i pretend to be productive on the computer?

So, my girlfriend at American/WCL has an exam today, and her professor had post all of the questions he had received and their answers on blackboard. She told me about this one:

Hi, Professor XXX. As you may know, 28 Weeks Later is coming out on Friday - it's a sequel to 28 Days Later, a really really great zombie movie. I was thinking - in honor of all this zombie goodness, could you consider placing a zombie-related question on the exam? For example, you could have someone with a life estate get zombified instead of dying in the conventional manner. I really think this would make the exam much better - after all, I'm hard pressed to think of anything which isn't better with zombies added.

Sorry, there will not be zombies on the exam.

Just curious. If for some reason I were to wait another cycle, would my LORs that I had for this year still be good? Or would I have to have my profs send another copy?

Law School Admissions / Off the Wait List Dates
« on: April 17, 2007, 09:21:53 PM »
Well, in my LSN trolling, I went through and got some data for the schools I care about. It's too time consuming to do all of the other schools at once, but if you're lucky/express interest, i can probably do your school too.

Methodology: Basically I threw away every date below April 15th. Then I started numbering the days from 1. Then I found the average and the median. Then I threw away the extreme two numbers and found the range. Unscientific to be sure, but then so is LSN.

Also, a word of extra warning. Unlike my other Wait list thing, the data size for these is miniscule (ranging from 2 to 7). Little can really be read from it, but I was bored and thought some people might like it.

Average Date: June 1st
Median Date: May 24th
Range: May 22nd-June 20th

Average Date: June 16th
Median Date: June 21st
Range: May 16th-July 18th

Average Date: May 30th
Median Date: May 9th
Range: May 5th-July 7th

Average Date: June 3rd
Median Date: June 12th
Range: April 28th-June 14th

Average Date: June 24th
Median Date: June 17th
Range: N/A

Average Date: May 19th
Median Date: May 17th
Range: April 25th-June 16th

Average Date: June 23rd
Median Date: June 24th
Range: June 23rd-June 26th

Average Date: June 11th
Median Date: June 22nd
Range: May 19th-June 28th

Average Date: May 24th
Median Date: May 24th
Range: N/A

Studying for the LSAT / Practicing for the June LSAT
« on: April 10, 2007, 01:05:12 PM »
Okay. So i've posted on this board a ton, but not much in the LSAT section except when I was waiting for my score. I haven't posted for good reason: I didn't really involve myself in test preparation last time except taking a few LSAT prep tests from the mid-nineties. In retrospect, that was a bad idea, but I'm still in a great position no matter how I perform on the June LSAT. My goal is to get accepted off of the Michigan Wait List (as well as a few others), so I'd like to see my score go up 3-5 points from a 165. Obviously the higher the better.

My question is this: how would you suggest going about doing this? I don't mind putting in some effort, but I don't want to burn myself out either. I know everyone does it differently, but I imagine there's some common ground. I'm particularly interested in scheduling to peak at the right time.

Some constraints:
1. Expenses must be kept below 400 dollars. I'm into great schools already so I don't need to spend a massive amount of money. I already have the Logic Reasoning Bible although I've only just cracked it.
2. I'm unwilling and unable to do more than one practice test a day at any point in my training.

I think i'll mostly be free in May and June.

Any help is appreciated.

Choosing the Right Law School / Best T25 Nickname
« on: April 10, 2007, 11:19:15 AM »
Please select your top three nicknames. I ask you not to just vote for the school you're going to go to or previously attended. This is for the coolest T25 names.

What I've found is that a ridiculous number of schools are too lazy to think of a name other than a color.

Information from

*Emory and Washington and Lee's weren't on that list.

Choosing the Right Law School / Emory ASD
« on: April 08, 2007, 03:11:38 PM »
Well, people have been asking for one, and I'll try and do a fairly brief description, chronologically.

8:15 - Registration and welcome
Why do law schools insist on starting their admitted students day at 8? Anyway, I met a few guys from LSD during this time. There was a sort of brief Welcome by the dean and admissions dean. Pretty standard stuff, but -- and this seems to be a theme revisited often during the day -- they did stress how unusual the cold weather was. I think they really hoped to impress the northerners with beautiful spring days and the like.

9:10 - Law School 101
This was basically a mock class. I have a feel it was fairly dumbed down because all of the participants were prospective students. At the end he also gave a brief speech about the law school. I found the professor engaging, and I think he was by far the most impressive of the speakers we had that day. Also, one girl raised her hand to ask what we should read and study to get prepared for law school. As Captain Longshot whispered, "there's a gunner waiting to happen." In general I got a general vibe that the law school and the prospective students were more competitive than I did at William and Mary.

10:00 - Financing a Legal Education

For the most part a boring waste of time that would have been better handled by an optional session like the one that W&M held. For most people, this isn't the first time they're going to deal with student loans, and they've already heavily considered how they'll finance it. The expense sheet was nice though.

10:45 - Small Group Sessions with Emory Law Professors and Prospective Students

We all broke into a bunch of small (maybe 6-12 students each) and went to various classrooms with professors. Mine was a very nice lady who heads the Child Clinic (I forget its official name). The only unfortunate part of this was that they had separated by interest, and I somehow ended up with people interested in public interest. I found this interesting, but probably not as personally useful as it might have been. Still, she did discuss the clinics, and they do seem to offer hands on experience. They're only available to 2Ls and 3Ls.

Noon - Lunch

Barbeque. I'm a Texas snob, so I'll preface this by saying I look down on Georgian BBQ on principal. But the barbeque was only adequate. They also had us sitting outside in a tented area which would have been very pleasant if it had been warm. I did meet a student who I don't think was very involved with the organization of the event, and his perspective was fairly interesting. He's a 3L with a job at a Biglaw firm (incidentally one that my dad used to work for). He did both Law Review and mock trial , and basically said he thought Law Review was absolutely and totally worthless other than to put on a resume. Mock trial on the other hand, he seems to have loved.

1:00 - Alumni Presentation

This was a bizarre event. It was four alumni, two graduates in something like '75 one of whom is a Judge. One was a '93 and the DA for the county that Emory is in. And one was a '03 grad and worked at a big firm. Actually, this event would have been fine except for the Judge. He wanted to talk a lot, and I think he's focused on a bygone era. Or something. Many questions posed would have been best answered by the recent graduate, but because he decided he deserved to speak, he took the floor. He also suggested watching the "Paper Chase" because that's what law school is like to which the '03 grad nodded his head vigorously "no." Again, this was a pretty weird pannel that didn't do much to sell the school for me. In an otherwise pretty good -- if not sometimes boring -- day, this was the low point.

1:45 - Current Students

This was pretty good. It was mostly a question and answer thing, and they had a pretty wide range of students up there representing law review, moot court, Black law student association (i'm not sure what it's officially called, they used an acronym), hispanic law student association, 1Ls, 2Ls, a 3L and an MBA/JD joint degree student in his fourth year. I can't really think of any stand-out moments of this, but I generally got a good feeling from them. Maybe someone else who was there could help me out.

2:30 - Tours

The MBA/JD guy toured us around. The law building is nice. For a 30-year-old building I thought it was pretty nice, but someone did ask whether any of the classrooms have windows. They don't. Apparently this doesn't bother anyone though.

Compared to the W&M visit, there were TONS of people studying in the library, the student lounge areas, empty classrooms, etc. Actually, during this time we entered a classroom with a couple of 1Ls studying, and they took the time to talk to us. They were very friendly, but they clearly thought that 1L was a fair amount of work.

3:00 - "Party on Bacardi"

They really, really wanted us to know how warm it was in Atlanta compared to our home cities, so they got an ice cream cart, a DJ, sodas and had the nice court yard area open for prospective students. Only problem was that it was probably 50 degrees outside, tops. Oh well.


That was pretty much my day. I left with a pretty good feeling, although I wasn't blown away. I like Atlanta, and I liked the law school.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / US News Not Leaked, Released
« on: March 27, 2007, 11:07:49 AM »
Well, I could just be dumb, but I logged into the US News online thing and the rankings are different from what they've been so far. I think most of you know that I'm not some kind of flame. It seemed to be the same on the main page, but once I logged in I got this:

Yale University (CT)
1 100
Harvard University (MA)
2 90
Stanford University (CA)
2 90
New York University 
4 87
Columbia University (NY)
5 85
University of Chicago 
6 80
University of Pennsylvania 
6 80
University of California-Berkeley 
8 78
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 
8 78
Duke University (NC)
10 77
University of Virginia 
10 77
Northwestern University (IL)
12 76
Cornell University (NY)
13 74
Georgetown University (DC)
14 72
University of California-Los Angeles 
15 71
University of Southern California (Gould) 
16 69
Vanderbilt University (TN)
16 69
University of Texas-Austin 
18 68
Washington University in St. Louis 
19 64
Boston University 
20 63
University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 
20 63
Emory University (GA)
22 62
George Washington University (DC)
22 62
University of Iowa 
24 61
Fordham University (NY)
25 60
University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign 
25 60
Washington and Lee University (VA)
25 60
Boston College 
28 59
University of Notre Dame (IN)
28 59
University of Washington 
28 59
College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) (VA)
31 58
Ohio State University (Moritz) 
31 58 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 
31 58
George Mason University (VA)
34 56 
University of California-Davis 
34 56
Indiana University-Bloomington 
36 55
University of Alabama 
36 55
University of California (Hastings) 
36 55
University of Colorado-Boulder 
36 55
University of Georgia 
36 55
University of Maryland 
36 55
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 
36 55
Wake Forest University (NC)
36 55
Brigham Young University (Clark) (UT)
44 54
University of Arizona (Rogers) 
44 54
Southern Methodist University (TX)
46 53
American University (Washington) (DC)
47 52
Tulane University (LA)
47 52
University of Connecticut 
47 52
University of Florida (Levin) 
47 52

EDIT: Removed information that you'll have to pay for eventually. I know that probably makes it less believable, but I don't feel good about basically letting people steal.

Choosing the Right Law School / Los Angeles
« on: March 25, 2007, 06:39:13 PM »
So, i'm trying to get over my irrational fear of LA. Anyway, I was hoping I could have a few of our LA members answer a few questions for me. I may start a thread at some point discussing the merits of schools, but generally i can find the information that people could offer me, so my questions are more just about the city as a whole.

First, how bad is the pollution?

Second, and I'm not really sure how to phrase this in a way that isn't insulting or come off as an easterner's ignorance, but... how much does superficiality dominate? For example, how important do people in LA (and specifically at USC) find it necessary to wear brand name stuff and care about whether others do?

Third, where are some good places to live in and around the city that would be doable on a student's budget (a fairly generous student's budget, but a student's budget nonetheless). how far are these places from USC?

Fourth, I understand that USC is in an urban part of USC, but what exactly does that entail?

And any other comments on the city (or USC) that you think i might find helpful. Thanks to anyone that might help.

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