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no one knows anything. everyone who isn't a lawyer should shut the hell up.


extreme ans type

you are going to GW, correct? motive.
please produce said study.

after the T14, you are on your own. these are the only schools that will help you nationally.
     1. Yale University (CT)
  100 4.8 4.7 3.79-3.96 168-175   6.5%   7.9   96.7%   98.3% 94.8%/NY   75%
     2. Harvard University (MA)
    94 4.8 4.8 3.73-3.94 169-175 11.3% 11.3   98.1%   99.4% 96.3%/NY   75%
     3. Stanford University (CA)
    93 4.8 4.7 3.77-3.94 166-172   7.7%   9.5   99.0%   99.1% 90.2%/CA   60%
     4. Columbia University (NY)
    89 4.7 4.6 3.50-3.83 167-173 14.2% 11.2   97.8%   98.5% 96.3%/NY   75%
     5. New York University 
    86 4.5 4.4 3.57-3.85 167-172 19.8% 11.2   97.5%   99.3% 96.8%/NY   75%
     6. University of Chicago 
    82 4.6 4.7 3.47-3.78 167-171 15.8% 10.1   98.1%   98.5% 97.0%/IL   84%
     7. University of Pennsylvania 
    81 4.3 4.4 3.45-3.81 166-171 15.7% 13.1 100.0% 100.0% 92.0%/NY   75%
     8. University of Michigan–Ann Arbor 
    80 4.5 4.6 3.44-3.77 164-169 19.9% 16.0   94.1%   98.6% 95.2%/NY   75%
     8. University of Virginia 
    80 4.3 4.6 3.49-3.82 166-171 18.7% 13.6   95.9%   99.7% 93.2%/VA   72%
   10. Northwestern University (IL)
    79 4.1 4.3 3.47-3.78 166-170 16.1% 12.5   97.7%   99.5%† 97.6%/IL   84%
   11. Cornell University (NY)
    78 4.2 4.3 3.43-3.76 164-168 19.2% 10.7   98.3%   98.3% 92.5%/NY   75%
   11. Duke University (NC)
    78 4.2 4.4 3.38-3.83 162-169 21.2% 11.7   96.7% 100.0% 98.6%/NY   75%
   11. University of California–Berkeley 
    78 4.5 4.4 3.63-3.90 161-168 10.0% 14.4   89.8%   97.7% 89.0%/CA   60%
   14. Georgetown University (DC)
    75 4.2 4.3 3.43-3.80 166-170 18.4% 14.8   92.9%   98.3% 91.6%/NY   75%

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: CALL=GOOD?
« on: April 27, 2005, 06:25:12 AM »
I think you are in good shape. The Director of Admissions makes the call.

yes, be optimistic. i hope you get in! 

Congratulations on your acceptance.  My admission status has been "Your application for admission has entered the committee review process. This process usually takes several weeks" for eight weeks now... When I followed up with the school, admissions assured me that they were still actively considering my application.

Do you think at this point I should be optimistic about my application? I hate the waiting!

good general info sites for MN:

my in-laws are from CA - san fran and L.A. and they love minnesota. you won't have any trouble finding skate parks if you look, you can snow board, but the hills here are nothing like the sierra madre, the biggest you will find is in the upper peninsula of michigan at; they have a 900 ft vertical w/ 270 inches of snow a year. surfing, hmm...yeah, i know people go up to lake superior and surf, but you will need a wet suit or you will freeze, do a google search for "lake superior surfing", and you will find plenty of info. laidback - yes. artsy-fartsy: yes, tons of theatres, galleries, small concert venues, etc. lots and lots of this, you will have a never ending supply, the art scene is truly endless. organic foods: yep, lots of co-op's; and don't miss the sweet corn and veggie stands in august, they are everywhere. there are many farms by my house ( i live in BFE on 5 acres) and one of them sells veggies and sweetcorn in the summer on an honor system. there is a tupperware container where you put your dough, and you take what you like (sorry for the sidetrack).

minnesota nice - okay, good question. basically, people can be overly nice and it's really quite humorous. that scene is fargo where the guy is shoveling snow and he talks to the cop for like 10 min's - that is minnesota nice. people will talk to you about anything and be your best friend while doing it. i am from wisconsin, things are slightly different there, maybe a little more liberal in some respects, but anyway, don't worry about it. you will be fine. some people that are not well traveled can feel trapped in minnesota, but i think you can say that for anyone growing up in an area and not traveling outside of it. i have been to most corners of this country and a few other continents and i find the people here pretty tolerable. you of course do get the country folk, but they are damn near everywhere, and they are mostly really nice. this is my background - farming/blue collar life, so whatever. you will be fine. just don't expect the big city and you will not be let down. the metro has a pop of  3.5 mill, so nowhere near LA, NYC or Chicago. BTW, if you need a big city fix, Chicago is a 6 hr drive through wisconsin (very scenic), interstate the whole way. you can stop off at cheese chateau’s, etc, they are a trip, very entertaining. there is a place by eau claire that i love because you can stop and buy gas, beef jerky, strong liquor, powerful fireworks and cheese all in one stop. this is truly wisconsin/midwestern.

activities overall: you cannot get board in minnesota, unless you are looking for a glamorous east coast/hollywood experience. what i mean by that is that there is a lot to get into here, tons of organized events which are easy to tap into - music, food, art, entertainment, etc. some people get side tracked by the smallness of the overall metro, but that is okay, they can find what they are looking for on the coasts, or possibly in chicago. if you are into outdoor experiences, there is a lot for you: fishing, camping, boating, hiking, climbing, birding, hunting, etc.

i was planning to go to san diego for school for a bit, but i now think i am going to stay here and go to hamline (i'm married, one kid, one on the way, career, mortgage, etc), so it is sorta funny you asked. i was almost in your neck of the woods, now you are coming to mine.

good luck; if you need help or have questions, you can email me or post. later.

p.s. i'd like to directly answer your question on culture: there is a cultural difference, but it is all relative to what you are used to. i would say that the culture here is more like san fran's and less like LA's. fiscally conservative and socially liberal is the main stay. lots of WASP's, but nice, inviting ones. again, don't worry, you will find what you are looking for, it's like Jerry said..."Nothin' shakin' on Shakedown Street. Used to be the heart of town. Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart. You just gotta poke around."

I think I'll like it as well.
Big city, solid music/arts/cultural scene.
I've heard the people are nice. I'm concerned that one of my friends that went to Carleton, and another that had friends at Mcallister mentioned that "Minnesota Nice" leaves a lot to be desired.

Will there really be that big a cultural difference between the West Coast and the upper Midwest?

Between Purple Rain, and Fargo I really am not sure what to expect. Do you think a prototypical West Coaster (outdoorsy, skate/surf/snowboard, laidback, artsy-fartsy, organic foods type) thrive out in the Twin Cities?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: William Mitchell vs. Hamline
« on: April 19, 2005, 07:04:19 AM »
i would pick the school that fits best w/ your 2L and 3L plans, the schools specialize in different areas.

good decision. you will like minnesota. it was 81 degrees yesterday. the winters are not that bad, it's more hype than anything. just be ready for 4 definitive seasons, that's all.

Hey All,

Thanks for the awesome replies. I've sent in my seat deposit and am getting geared up for MN. I'll be basking in CA for the summer. Seattle to Cally and then back again all the way to St Paul.

Congratulations to all of you who have gotten in somewhere.
Blessings on your journey if you are still waiting. If you want it bad enough, you'll get there.
You hit what you head for.

I look forward to meeting all of you who will be in St Paul this August.
Maybe I'll tell you of my harrowing middle of the night drive through the Siskiyous in a snowstorm towing a trailer.

Got the call yesterday; I'm in. YES!

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