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Current Law Students / Re: Does the second semester suck any less?
« on: December 10, 2008, 11:50:28 AM »
I'm a 3L and 1L spring sucks worse than 1L fall, but 2L fall is the worst of all the semesters so far. 

W&M is actually pretty liberal, and I would think that we are as diverse as Wisconsin, but I haven't been there in about 15 years.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: William & Mary
« on: May 24, 2008, 07:40:36 PM »
I only have anecdotal evidence. . . . but WM participates in a big NYC law firm job fair, but it is in NYC and you have to travel up there on your own dime to attend.  However, the people who went up there generally got call back interviews and several got offers.  Most on campus stuff is DC or VA.  But there are a lot of job fairs in other places.  FL and Georgia firms seem to court WM Law students, especially those with ties to the region.  Everyone in the top half seemed to do well in the job search.  I can't say beyond that, because it is tough to find a law student admit they are not in the top half.  :P

Current Law Students / Re: Microsoft one note
« on: August 26, 2006, 09:53:03 PM »
I like one note because of the subpage feature.  I can open my Torts tab, for example, then start a page for a class covering Intentional Torts and make the class notes there.  Then I can do my briefing on subpages.  After a week of classes, I am already building an outline, with classnotes titled by what part of the law they relate to and subcases that illustrate and build that law.  It just keeps me more organized than I think I would be in Word.

It also handles autoformatting outlines much better than Word.

W&M has a study abroad program that they administer, which means you get a letter grade in those classes, and they let you go to study abroad programs offered by other schools.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Virginia -or- W&M w/ $$?
« on: April 01, 2008, 07:28:47 PM »
Assuming that you can get a job paying 100K is a HUGE assumption coming from W&M if you finish below median.  Also, those jobs paying that will keep you there past 6:30.  Lawyers work long hours.  Smaller pay doesn't necessarily mean shorter hours because there is competition for any legal job paying 100K+.  Stop being naive and realize that if you are going to want a six figure salary you will work very hard for it no matter where you go.  Also, don't make any decisions based on being a law professor.  Everyone entering law school thinks that would be cool and less than 1% are able to do it. 

Believe me, I'm not in any way counting on landing a professorship...ever.  But I suppose I'm one of the multitudes of 0Ls who have entertained the idea of pursuing it--assuming my grades gave me half a chance.  I think it's worth mentioning in the context of a UVA/W&M decision just because W&M grads realistically can't expect to become profs no matter how they did in school.  Even with UVA, it's a lofty goal, but possible at least.  That was my point.

Well, they can, but they really have to get an LLM first from someplace prestigious to be competitive.  So it isn't like the door is closed forever.  It just becomes a LOT harder.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: William & Mary Waitlist
« on: March 28, 2008, 10:00:14 AM »
Every school accepts far more people than they hope to have in the class, because they know every student probably will get 4 or 5 acceptances and only attend one school.  So, I think they predict something like 25% of their acceptances will refuse and so they accept a ton of people.  It is only if less than their expected percentage accepts that they dig into a waitlist.  Last year we had 16 people accept more than we expected.  In my class they hit the waitlist.  So, it is a very variable thing.

W&L's new 3L ideas apparently haven't altered its ranking at all (still at 25)

Glad to see WUSTL holding strong in the top 20, I gotta wonder if all the money they're dishing out will help them move up in the next couple of years.

I'm surprised to see Pitt all the way down at 73, anyone know why they took such a gigantic tumble?

The W&L thing won't hit this year's rankings.  It might not even hit next year.  It is more a 3+ year impact, as either their grads become more valuable or less and their faculty better or worse as a result.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Is this Really the Case?
« on: March 25, 2008, 05:45:12 PM »
Matthes and J are right.  It is a lot of hard work just to make it to the top half, and after that it is more than just being smart and hard working.  There are people who don't work as hard as you who will do better and those who work harder who do worse. 

I knew the material, worked hard, worked consistently, and still didn't do as well as I wanted to.  Why?  Because I am wordy, especially under time pressure when I am groping toward the answer I know is there.  I say wayyyyyy to much to earn the point, and time myself out of getting more points on the exam.  The solution: take classes where the final is a paper, where I can be wordy all I want and consistent work throughout the semester pays off.

The first year will be random and suck, except for the top 10% of the class.  After that, pick your classes to suit your strengths and it gets better.

I think W&M sends out a ton of fee waivers period.  I heard this rumor when I was applying too, and it freaked me out!  But I got in, even with a fee waiver.  In my year there were at least some who got in off a waitlist, so it isn't an automatic no.  I have no idea how many, though.

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