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Job Search / Re: Is getting no-offered the end of the world?
« on: August 09, 2007, 09:34:43 AM »
I'm guessing from what you wrote that you worked at large firm and you did not get an offer at the end. This causes a snag during OCI because employer ask what you did for the summer and if you say you didn't get an offer you have to explain. What will go through the back of their mind (per family friend attorney) is that they only get 20minutes tops to see if you would be a good fit but another firm had you for 10-12 weeks and decided against it.

I think because you are going towards government that you will be just fine without having the firm offer. During the interview I would tell them: while I did not receive an offer at the end of the summer associate program, it was apparent that I was planning on pursuing a career in government. As can be gathered from all of my reviews, the fact that an offer wasn't extended was not a reflection of my work product but moreso due to an understanding that my future aspirations weren't aligned with the firm.

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Job Search / Re: OCI lottery
« on: August 09, 2007, 09:29:24 AM »
so im confused as to how an OCI lottery really works.  my school does not explain what it too well and im under the impression right now that for the initia interview the firm has no say on who it interviews.  but this strikes me as pretty incredulous.  if this is the case, is there still a screening interview AFTER this intitial "lottery" interview. 

anyone else have a school who does it like that and care to explain? i apologize for sounding ignorant.

Hard to answer specifically without knowing your school, but your situation sounds similar to a friend of mine who attends one of the T14. The students pick/rank the firms they want interviews with and then the career services gives the firms the list of students they will be interviewing. At UPenn your not even allowed to put your class rank or GPA on the resume anyway, so it's not like you would get screened that way. That being said --- the firm's first opportunity to screen will take place during the EIW blitzkrieg of interviews.

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Job Search / Re: Maneuvering OCI with a 2.97
« on: August 09, 2007, 06:58:29 AM »
Did OCI prescreen applicants?

I don't think so. We had to put in 75 bids, I did 43 and the top 20 bids you placed would receive your resume. So no screening.

ahhh. The benefits of going to a T14. I only wish that we didnt' have prescreening.

In any event. Do you work at all? If so, perhaps you could just say you were devoting more of your time to that in the Spring.  What about Summer classes? Did you take any to raise your grades?

No classes or anything. I worked at V50 firm this summer and got an offer from them - Thank God - hopefully they won't ask for an updated transcript. And worked for another firm abroad - which I don't believe gives offers to the US students because of a diff. training system. I didn't have my GPA on my resume when the top firms picked me but we'll see I guess.

I'm not quite sure what I'm hoping for - perhaps the firms with B cut off like P.Hastings will figure a 2.97 is close enough to a 3.0  =/ This whole thing is getting quite traumatic. =)

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Job Search / Re: Probability of Interview leading to SA Position???
« on: August 09, 2007, 02:21:02 AM »
I have to agree with Raven. Lower firms won't really look at you assuming that the higher ranked ones will take you anyway.


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Job Search / Re: Maneuvering OCI with a 2.97
« on: August 09, 2007, 02:18:01 AM »
Did OCI prescreen applicants?

I don't think so. We had to put in 75 bids, I did 43 and the top 20 bids you placed would receive your resume. So no screening.

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Job Search / Maneuvering OCI with a 2.97
« on: August 08, 2007, 05:45:54 AM »
I attend a T14 school and things started out well enough first semester - 3.24, but second semester I took a dive and my gpa is a 2.97 (3 B-'s and 2 B's). GPA non withstanding my resume is really good, I made moot court, went to an Ivy for undergrad, and I got a NY firm job for my 1L summer (they gave me an offer at the end).

OCI is quickly approaching and I managed to get 18 screening interviews for NYC - mostly the Vault top 20, throwing in Paul Hastings and firms around their ranking slot.

Is there any chance of getting callbacks at the Big Firms like Cravath, Sullivan etc.? How should I go about explaining my grade drop? (Not for lack of studying or cockiness etc.) I have a connection at Weil and Cadwalader but am fearful even they won't be able to help me with a 2.97. Any words of wisdom? Thoughts?

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