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Deciding Where to Go => Choosing the Right Law School => Topic started by: LSATnooblet on September 28, 2007, 05:24:40 PM

Title: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on September 28, 2007, 05:24:40 PM
If anyone is thinking about applying or going to Hastings, I'll fill you in with any questions you may have.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: PravinLal on September 28, 2007, 06:16:46 PM
How heavy is the work load so far?
What is the atmosphere like among students?
Any impressions on your professors?
Does Hastings favor theory or practicality?
Thanks for your insight.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: motorolalawyer on September 28, 2007, 06:17:50 PM
hey lsatnooblet. what are the employment prospects (in your view) for hastings grads? thanks.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on September 29, 2007, 03:55:59 AM
Motorola: I've spoken to countless alums and a few top recruiters and they all agree that Hastings does very well in the large firm market. I know a very large handful of 2 and 3Ls that have 160k offers. In fact, 160k offers don't seem very rare here. Many of them are working with firms that have an established Hastings alum network such as Morrison & Forrester, Manatt, and DLA Piper. However, if you're reaching for mega firms, you would want to stay within the top 30%. This doesn't mean that you're screwed if you're not in that category. It is very easy for us to get government and public work however. We are surrounded by courts of various jurisdictions and that makes it very easy for us to get work/externships. The reputation is solid and we rank in the top 20 if you look at our US News reputation score alone (judges and professionals).

Pravin: The work load depends on your section since it's teacher specific. However, in my section the work load has been very manageable. On average, our reading assignments are anywhere from 15 to 20 pages for every class, most of which meet twice a week for an hour. The atmosphere here is surprisingly relaxed, friendly and cordial. Everyone is very social and the school orders a bunch of kegs of beer every other Thursday for the students. I'm sure things will change as we creep closer to finals but that goes for any school. As for my profs, all 4 of them are in the top of their field are are phenomenal at teaching (Charles Knapp for contracts, John Diamond for torts, David Levine for civil procedure and Robin Feldman for property). None of them focus too heavily on facts or too heavily on theory. Most of them cover the black letter law very thoroughly and provide some very interesting hypos. As for my legal writing prof, a brilliant recent grad of Hastings that is currently an associate at DLA Piper. It's interesting to have him give us some insights of big law life. Hastings certainly favors practicality over theory and they will tell you this during orientation. This does not mean that all professors will follow this preference as many of them are theory-heavy. However, Hastings is more focused on creating lawyers that have strong practical and analytical skills, things that law firms are looking for.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Don Karnage on September 29, 2007, 12:22:47 PM
tell us about the women, and anything else about student life
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: PravinLal on September 29, 2007, 03:51:15 PM
I would be interested to know how you think Hastings compares to Davis both academically and in terms of Q of L.  I am considering both, and the ratings put them as roughly comparable.  Thanks
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on September 30, 2007, 03:07:17 AM
Well the quality of life depends on what you're looking for. San Francisco is a beautiful city that is always active with tons of people and traffic all the time. If city life is what you want, I'd go to Hastings. I have never actually been to Davis but I hear its more "pastoral." In terms of US News rankings, Davis and Hastings are toe to toe. However, our reputation assessed by attorneys and judges is actually higher and our Bar passage rates are significantly higher. Hastings also has a much deeper alumni network.

As for the women, there is quite a fair share of attractive girls. Almost none are overweight and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: kaboodle on October 09, 2007, 02:26:55 AM
Where the hell do you park?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: credo on October 09, 2007, 02:58:26 AM
Where the hell do you park?

Where the hell do you get off?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Lowell MVP on October 10, 2007, 11:04:31 AM
Hey LSATnooblet,

Thanks for offering your wisdom.  I have 2 questions:

1) I noticed the student-faculty ration at Hastings is around 21:1, which seems pretty high.  How big have your classes been, and how accessible have your professors been?

2) Someone at Hastings told me the atmosphere is pretty competitive because they rank very strictly, carving the class up into chunks of "top 10%, next 15%, next 20%" etc., so students are very aware of rankings and each grade can make a big difference.  How competitive does it seem to you?

Thanks.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Tempo on October 10, 2007, 06:49:47 PM
How about the living situation-- i.e. how much would I expect to spend for a studio or 1 bedroom at various distances from the school?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: AkhilAmar on October 10, 2007, 07:50:26 PM

A Hastings recruiter told me point blank that "the 'loin" is a shady area. What are your impressions thus far? Do you feel safe when walking around the LS area?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on October 10, 2007, 09:44:11 PM
I believe Credo goes to Hastings as well so Credo, if you want to chime in or add to my responses, please do.


To Alias:

Most of us don't drive but if you do decide to bring a car up, there's a parking lot down the street from Hastings where you pay like $200 a month. However, I seriously recommend not bringing a car up.

To Lowell MPV:

1. The entering class is split into 5 sections of 80. Though the ratio is one of the worst in the nation, you don't really notice it. Only a small percentage of the class regularly ask questions so if you're an inquisitive one, you will get the attention you want if you want it. Otherwise, the teachers are very accessible and very willing to assist you in any way possible. They have office hours and if you don't make those, you can always email them and they will answer you promptly. I've found upperclassmen a very good resource in terms of getting to know what profs are looking for and what you should be focusing on.

2. I think the competitiveness for the most part is a myth. All of my section mates have been very social and cordial with one another, eager to share notes and case briefs when a student is in need. As long as you show your constituents that you work hard and you are willing to contribute your material when others are in need, you will feel the love. Yes our curve is nasty and yes we do have to compete with 2 top 10 schools for the same jobs but deep down inside we're all stuck in the same pool and feel for one another.

To Tempo: You can get subsidized student housing at the McAllister Tower right down the block from the school (studios and 1BRs ranging from $900-1200) or at UCSF Mission Bay where you can lease a 1 BR in a 4 BR for about $800 a month. If not, you can live in areas like Nob Hill, the Marina, Sunset, or Russian Hill for about $1100-$1300 for a studio.

To Akhil:

The Loin is undoubtedly a "shady area" with a lot of homeless people, smelly streets, and drug transactions. There is no reason to be afraid of the Loin during daylight hours since there are plenty of security and police officers in the area and stuff doesn't really happen in the morning anyways. As for the night, just don't stray too far from Hastings, particularly north of Golden Gate, and you should be fine. I don't know anyone that has had any problems with crime or violence. It's just not a pretty part of the city but it's relatively safe.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: AkhilAmar on October 10, 2007, 10:18:31 PM

A Hastings recruiter told me point blank that "the 'loin" is a shady area. What are your impressions thus far? Do you feel safe when walking around the LS area?

He's quite the recruiter.


Well, depends on the role of the recruiter. If recruiters are soley at forums to be salespeople, then she definitely isn't doing Hastings any favors. On the other hand, I appreciate honestly and integrity and I think recruiters should reflect the beliefs of the LS. I have friends who live near Hastings so it was a rhetorical question and I just wanted to see if she was there to be factual or to sell me a product.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: credo on October 11, 2007, 01:54:12 PM

A Hastings recruiter told me point blank that "the 'loin" is a shady area. What are your impressions thus far? Do you feel safe when walking around the LS area?

Its the most densely populated neighborhood in the city.  Lots of low rent hotels and bars.  There is a lot of foot traffic and a lot of open drug dealing.

That being said I live in "The Tower" here and walk around the neighborhood at ALL hours and have never been hasseled by anyone. Just tell the panhandlers "no not today" and youll be fine. I would not park my car on the street late at night though as they are constantly getting broken into.

The SFPD and campus safety do a great job watching things around campus.  Theres a police officer who walks up and down McAllister till fairly late at night and they will escort you to and from BART or the bus stop.  Not to mention the police station is literally 200 yards away and they respond within a minute or two.  Ive never heard of any students being victimized.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: lawgirl415 on October 11, 2007, 02:35:08 PM

A Hastings recruiter told me point blank that "the 'loin" is a shady area. What are your impressions thus far? Do you feel safe when walking around the LS area?

I live in San Francisco. The Tenderloin does have a lot of homeless and "crazies". Any city has this area. However, if you walk in the right direction it isn't that bad because it is so close the government buildings. Also, it is located in a very nice location if you are planning on taking BART.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: annasan on October 22, 2007, 08:12:55 PM
What is a typical day for a 1l at Hastings?

And what is the typical size of a 1 br in the tower?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: RockShox007 on October 23, 2007, 12:46:28 AM
LSATnooblet or Credo, could either of you elaborate a little on living in the tower?  Do you like it?  How's the gym?  Thanks.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: TurboBoy on October 23, 2007, 01:11:05 AM
Would you please, in your opinion, tell us some pro's, and especially con's, of going to UC Hastings as opposed to another law school?  I personally would kill to attend UC Hastings.  Please tell me lots of con's in case I get rejected so I can go over the list again and again.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: credo on October 23, 2007, 03:50:36 PM
LSATnooblet or Credo, could either of you elaborate a little on living in the tower?  Do you like it?  How's the gym?  Thanks.

I like the tower.  The main drawback is the fridges dont have very good freezers on them, other than that I have no complaints. You can get some killer views.  I would suggest living above the 7th floor if possible since it cuts down on the street noise and the views are better.

The gym is great, rarely crowded, clean, open 24 hours. There are locker rooms in the basement and a full size basketball court that we use for inramurals and pick up games.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on October 23, 2007, 10:27:01 PM
Well Credo just answered Rock's question so I'll just answer the other ones since I can't really elaborate on the Tower since I don't live there.

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You said about 30% of the class has a shot at mega-firm jobs.  About what percentile is needed to make 80k or more?

Just because you're not in the top 30% doesn't mean you have a 0% shot. I'm not in career services so I wouldn't be able to give you legit information about this question. If you're only shooting for 80k, I wouldn't worry about achieving that. Hastings is a great school and you shouldn't have too much of a problem as long as you're not at the bottom.

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What is a typical day for a 1l at Hastings?

And what is the typical size of a 1 br in the tower?

I can't give you dimensions of a typical 1 BR but all I can say is that they are a decent size and they're not easy to get. There are much more studios and efficiencies.

As for a typical day, it's different for everyone, but I'll give you an idea of what mine looks like. I wake up really tired and groggy around 8 a.m., I review the cases for my class (most of which start at 9:40), I sometimes have time for breakfast but if I don't, there's a Starbucks or Burger King right off the Muni (which I take everyday from Mission Bay-20 mins), I go to my locker (all 1Ls get these), then head to class which lasts anywhere from 1-2 hours. During lunch I'll usually grab a sandwich from some spot nearby then go to the library for 3 or 4 hours to read cases for the next day. I'll come home, eat dinner, then either work on my memo or finish reading cases. If I'm not doing one of those, I'll outline. If I'm not doing that, I'm probably drinking at a bar or club.

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Would you please, in your opinion, tell us some pro's, and especially con's, of going to UC Hastings as opposed to another law school?  I personally would kill to attend UC Hastings.  Please tell me lots of con's in case I get rejected so I can go over the list again and again.

Ok so pro's are that we have some rock solid professors and everyone is pretty chill here. We get free beer and ice cream and stuff like that. We have lots of panels/discussions/visits/speeches from big attorneys all the time. We have fun student organizations. We have a good number of attractive gals. San Francisco is a kick ass city. We just got a whole building remodeled and it looks great.

Cons (I'll try to make this list longer): SF is a kick ass city but the part of SF we're in totally blows. The Tenderloin can be disagreeable to put it nicely. It's not a very safe area (though students don't get attacked or anything) and it's not clean at all. We don't have a campus, all we have are two huge municipal-looking buildings that aren't very charming. I mean, I could like go on and on about the Loin but I'll tell you some other things. Our school doesn't have that much money so don't expect very many amenities or luxuries. The grading curve is super harsh. We aren't allowed to use Westlaw or Lexis for legal research (I'm not sure how many schools allow you to but I know some do). All the food around here is pretty damn unhealthy (tastes good though). You don't want to park your car around here and if you do, you'll have to pay up your ass for parking. We have a good handful of unattractive girls as well.

Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: joyce615 on October 24, 2007, 12:29:56 AM
my old roommate is also a 1L at hastings and she lives in the tower. maybe you know her? her name's tiffany.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on October 24, 2007, 01:21:11 AM
i know a Tiffany D. and Tiffany G.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: TurboBoy on October 24, 2007, 08:07:50 AM
Would someone please elaborate on the location of UC Hastings and its relation to the so-called 'The Loin'.  So how safe exactly is this school and the area??
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: lawgirl415 on October 24, 2007, 08:32:02 AM
Would someone please elaborate on the location of UC Hastings and its relation to the so-called 'The Loin'.  So how safe exactly is this school and the area??

I am a female and I felt comfortable walking to my car after dark. Yes, there are druggies and crazies, but they rarely bother you. Use street smarts and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on October 24, 2007, 05:20:55 PM
The location of the school is at the very outer edges of the Tenderloin so it's really not that bad where we're at as long as you don't stray a couple blocks north. Going east or west   on McAllister is fine since Market is the next street south. I honestly have never felt threatened. You'll learn soon enough what streets not to walk down on certain times of the night. Other than that, I agree with lawgirl. Just be smart and you'll do okay.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: joyce615 on October 24, 2007, 08:10:03 PM
Tiff. D! Aha so you know her. Small world  :)
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: whartonn on October 25, 2007, 05:42:04 PM
The location of the school is at the very outer edges of the Tenderloin so it's really not that bad where we're at as long as you don't stray a couple blocks north. Going east or west   on McAllister is fine since Market is the next street south. I honestly have never felt threatened. You'll learn soon enough what streets not to walk down on certain times of the night. Other than that, I agree with lawgirl. Just be smart and you'll do okay.

Is the school one building? What is the food like in the surrounding area?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: HastingsOneL on October 25, 2007, 08:53:40 PM
The location of the school is at the very outer edges of the Tenderloin so it's really not that bad where we're at as long as you don't stray a couple blocks north. Going east or west   on McAllister is fine since Market is the next street south. I honestly have never felt threatened. You'll learn soon enough what streets not to walk down on certain times of the night. Other than that, I agree with lawgirl. Just be smart and you'll do okay.

Is the school one building? What is the food like in the surrounding area?

The school is housed in two buildings.  One building (198) is mostly classrooms and the other building (200) has administrative offices, faculty offices and our brand new three floor library (which is awesome).  Both have lots of study space.

Here is a link to both of them. The 200 building is on the left and the 198 building is on the right.  Down the street is student housing located in "the Tower."
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=200+McAllister+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94102&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.527387,68.115234&ie=UTF8&ll=37.781224,-122.415188&spn=0.00099,0.002079&t=h&z=19&om=1

There are a bunch of good spots to eat in the immediate area (sandwiches, pizza, mexican, etc.) Also, muni is one block away which will get anywhere within the city.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: TurboBoy on October 25, 2007, 11:22:10 PM
How close are you guys to UCSF?  Are you guys affiliated at all?  I'm asking 'cause I'd like to know what kind of resources from UCSF might be available to UC Hastings students (like, things undergrad offices supply like cheap show tickets, the auditorium, joining their orchestra, clubs, their gym, etc).  'Cause looking at UC Hastings on Google Earth, it's kinda small - there must be a place you guys go to go wild!
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: rekopter on October 26, 2007, 06:24:42 AM
How close are you guys to UCSF?  Are you guys affiliated at all?  I'm asking 'cause I'd like to know what kind of resources from UCSF might be available to UC Hastings students (like, things undergrad offices supply like cheap show tickets, the auditorium, joining their orchestra, clubs, their gym, etc).  'Cause looking at UC Hastings on Google Earth, it's kinda small - there must be a place you guys go to go wild!

UCSF is very small and it's only for grads as well...
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: dcgirl27 on October 26, 2007, 08:36:40 AM
Is it true that most UC Hastings students are from UC schools, I heard that the admissions people prefer UC students?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on October 26, 2007, 12:39:37 PM
TURBOBOY: We are not affiliated with UCSF for the most part except for the fact that they let us stay at the Mission Bay apartments and allow us to use their gym at a discounted rate. UCSF now has Mission Bay campus in addition to the primary Parnassus campus and Hastings is no where near either.

DCGIRL: It is true that most (more than 50%) Hastings students are from UCs but this does not necessarily mean that Hastings has a preference for them. If UCs are a majority, it is a very marginal majority. There is still a strong representation of other schools. Just from my section alone, I can think of people from Columbia, Stanford (quite a few of these guys at Hastings), Brown, Brandeis, Wellesley, Princeton and Tufts.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Guess who's coming to dinner?!? on November 03, 2007, 12:51:45 AM
TURBOBOY: We are not affiliated with UCSF for the most part except for the fact that they let us stay at the Mission Bay apartments and allow us to use their gym at a discounted rate. UCSF now has Mission Bay campus in addition to the primary Parnassus campus and Hastings is no where near either.

DCGIRL: It is true that most (more than 50%) Hastings students are from UCs but this does not necessarily mean that Hastings has a preference for them. If UCs are a majority, it is a very marginal majority. There is still a strong representation of other schools. Just from my section alone, I can think of people from Columbia, Stanford (quite a few of these guys at Hastings), Brown, Brandeis, Wellesley, Princeton and Tufts.

You sound like a commercial for Hastings.  Barf. 
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: daysofconfusion on November 03, 2007, 01:06:12 AM
TURBOBOY: We are not affiliated with UCSF for the most part except for the fact that they let us stay at the Mission Bay apartments and allow us to use their gym at a discounted rate. UCSF now has Mission Bay campus in addition to the primary Parnassus campus and Hastings is no where near either.

DCGIRL: It is true that most (more than 50%) Hastings students are from UCs but this does not necessarily mean that Hastings has a preference for them. If UCs are a majority, it is a very marginal majority. There is still a strong representation of other schools. Just from my section alone, I can think of people from Columbia, Stanford (quite a few of these guys at Hastings), Brown, Brandeis, Wellesley, Princeton and Tufts.

You sound like a commercial for Hastings.  Barf. 

hmmm i thought it was pretty helpful. whats your beef?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on November 03, 2007, 04:01:33 PM
I think she goes to Hastings  :o
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: HastingsOneL on November 04, 2007, 08:18:55 PM
the information is accurate, but it did sound like a commercial.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on November 05, 2007, 09:29:05 AM
They're paying me with Galaxy Pizza. 
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on November 05, 2007, 08:44:01 PM
If you really want to stay in LA and you get some money from Loyola (it costs about 10k more than Hastings) and you know you want to work in LA after law school, then Loyola isn't a bad choice at all. I know Hastings has alums all over CA but I think Loyola, even though they are ranked lower, may have a stronger pull in the LA market than Hastings, at least for some firms. I think if you are in the top 20% at Loyola you will do just fine. Loyola also has a much larger campus and it's pretty nice too. I love San Francisco so Hastings was an easy choice for me. If you're going to have problems moving away from your girlfriend and you don't like SF that much then I'd probably go with Loyola.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: hmmmz on November 12, 2007, 07:30:09 PM
very large handful of 2 and 3Ls that have 160k offers


have they been informed how many hours/week they will be working???
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on November 13, 2007, 12:37:37 AM
Generally it's around 2000 billable hours per year which means 8 billable hours per day, 40 hours a week. This works out to about 11-14 actual hours per day, on average.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: moonpie on November 13, 2007, 01:56:14 AM
Would someone please elaborate on the location of UC Hastings and its relation to the so-called 'The Loin'.  So how safe exactly is this school and the area??

I am a female and I felt comfortable walking to my car after dark. Yes, there are druggies and crazies, but they rarely bother you. Use street smarts and you'll be fine.

I practically grew up on Market...that area is fine. It's a few blocks from city hall, BART stations, etc. It is, like many parts of SF, home to a decently large junkie/homeless population, but there's lots of normal pedestrian traffic and patrolmen.  People always talk about hastings like you're going to get stabbed if you don't arm yourself. I think you should use common sense, but it's really not that bad. The bad parts of LA, NY or even the east bay or Santa Monica are way scarier than where hastings is.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: GringoBob on December 16, 2007, 01:17:18 PM
Quick question for you....

Hastings will be my first choice down the road.  That being said, I'm trying to come up with a way to pay for school without relying too much on loans.  Currently I'm an active duty Naval Officer and would like to continue in the reserves while in law school.  That would require the old one weekend a month, two weeks a summer routine.  How realistic would it be for me to work one weekend a month (8 hours Sat, 8 hours Sun) and two weeks over the summer (internship conflict?)?
It this schedule isn't feasible for a 1L, could I pull it off as a 2L/3L?

Thanks in advance.

Just to put it in perspective, working in the reserves for those three years would amount to about 45K dollars pre-tax.  Not a small amount of money.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: credo on December 16, 2007, 01:26:40 PM
Quick question for you....

Hastings will be my first choice down the road.  That being said, I'm trying to come up with a way to pay for school without relying too much on loans.  Currently I'm an active duty Naval Officer and would like to continue in the reserves while in law school.  That would require the old one weekend a month, two weeks a summer routine.  How realistic would it be for me to work one weekend a month (8 hours Sat, 8 hours Sun) and two weeks over the summer (internship conflict?)?
It this schedule isn't feasible for a 1L, could I pull it off as a 2L/3L?

Thanks in advance.

Just to put it in perspective, working in the reserves for those three years would amount to about 45K dollars pre-tax.  Not a small amount of money.

Its definately feasible all three years, know a guy who was doing that for the Army reserve while at Hastings.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: GringoBob on December 16, 2007, 01:33:07 PM
Sweet....I was hoping that would be the case.

Thanks credo. 
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: tashakies on December 16, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
What is your international law program like? I would like to live in Asia for several years as my family is there but I do not really know what opportunities there are for US lawyers. Do you know if Hastings alumns spread out globally? If they do, what do they roughly study in Hastings? Does Hastings have good connections overseas? Thanks!
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on January 11, 2008, 12:40:29 AM
I personally do not know how Hastings does overseas. All I know is that Hastings places very well in Hawaii. Hastings also has a pretty good study abroad program. Sorry I can't be more informative about this question.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: traffic777 on January 13, 2008, 06:08:47 PM
What are the prospects for SoCal employment? I got $63K from Loyola and an acceptance from Hastings, not sure which one to take for best chances of finding work in SoCal or internationally?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: traffic777 on January 14, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
and what's the Tower's policy on overnight guests?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: credo on January 14, 2008, 01:56:45 PM
What are the prospects for SoCal employment? I got $63K from Loyola and an acceptance from Hastings, not sure which one to take for best chances of finding work in SoCal or internationally?

Is the money from Loyola guaranteed or subject to maintaining a certain GPA? Would you be paying in state or out of state at Hastings the first year? Are you over 23 yrs old?

with you rnumbers there you have a shot at Boalt too especially if you are foreign born.

and what's the Tower's policy on overnight guests?

you can have whoever, whenever, so long as they sign in with the doorman if they arent a student.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: traffic777 on January 14, 2008, 02:29:22 PM
I've to maintain a gpa of 2.6+ (top65%) for Loyola to keep me on scholarship. Don't tease me with bolt; it's my dream school and yes, I'm foreign-born.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: thelawman on March 11, 2008, 01:32:42 AM
you spoke of office hours

are teachers specified to give so many a week or do they voluntary leave their doors open whenever they feel like doing so
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: thebiggdawg55 on March 12, 2008, 09:18:44 PM
What are the actual classrooms like? Is everything pretty modern or is it all ancient? Is there wifi everywhere, modern library, new computers, etc.? What about libraray resources?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: DLNY on March 23, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
I’m from New York and in not long enough I will be graduating from Penn; what chance do I have of coming back east after 3 years at Hastings?  I’m really starting to like the school from what I read and I’ll be coming to visit soon but will my only prospects for work be in the Bay Area/West Coast, or will I be able to find work in New York?  Brutal truth please
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: HastingsOneL on March 24, 2008, 12:41:44 AM
thebiggdawg55:  All the classrooms are very nice and modern with power outlets for you laptop for every seat.  Wifi over the whole campus, yes.  The library just underwent an extensive renovation and is less than 1 year old.  it's pretty sweet.  The  My one complaint is that it the classrooms do have a bit of an institutional feel... lots of white.  but almost everything (computers, library, classrooms, refrigerators, microwaves, bathrooms) is new.  The one thing that is NOT new are the lockers.  Functionally the lockers are 100% fine, but they are a funky brown or green color. yuck. 

DLNY: (In addition to information from the post below yours) Give the career services office a call and see what kind of employment opportunities await.  The Alumni Network at UCH is one of the largest and strongest in the country.

Please don't forget that UC Hastings is connected with a larger institution called the University of California, just not an undergraduate campus.  Lawyers nationwide are familiar with UC Hastings and lawyers are responsible for hiring at firms.  If you need recognition from someone outside the legal world to validate your choice in law schools, then feel free to factor BCS rankings, basketball programs, and mascots into your choice.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Hastings1L Woman on April 06, 2008, 04:17:16 PM
As a  female first year at UC Hastings, I am angered and offended by my classmate's characterization of his female colleagues as "As for the women, there is quite a fair share of attractive girls. Almost none are overweight and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent." This sexist comment not only reveals the writer's stupidity, but also degrades the Hastings community. Whoever this poster is, he/she does not represent us, and should keep in mind that being a sexist makes passing the professional responsibility requirement for the bar really hard.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: rekopter on April 06, 2008, 04:32:02 PM
As a  female first year at UC Hastings, I am angered and offended by my classmate's characterization of his female colleagues as "As for the women, there is quite a fair share of attractive girls. Almost none are overweight and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent." This sexist comment not only reveals the writer's stupidity, but also degrades the Hastings community. Whoever this poster is, he/she does not represent us, and should keep in mind that being a sexist makes passing the professional responsibility requirement for the bar really hard.

You set the bar for being a sexist quite low.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Hastings1L Woman on April 06, 2008, 05:00:11 PM
Rekopter, where would you like the bar to be? High enough so that it's ok to categorically insult the classmate sitting next to you because she's one of the women at Hastings?

As a student at Hastings, it's pretty piggish of the poster to insinuate that he/she goes to school with less than very intelligent women. As an aspiring attorney, the poster should at least be socially aware enough to realize that such comments speak of his/her lack of professionalism and respect for others.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: rekopter on April 06, 2008, 05:22:40 PM
Rekopter, where would you like the bar to be? High enough so that it's ok to categorically insult the classmate sitting next to you because she's one of the women at Hastings?

As a student at Hastings, it's pretty piggish of the poster to insinuate that he/she goes to school with less than very intelligent women. As an aspiring attorney, the poster should at least be socially aware enough to realize that such comments speak of his/her lack of professionalism and respect for others.

I guess we read "and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent" differently. It reads more like high praise than "categorically insulting" to me.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: motorolalawyer on April 06, 2008, 05:47:42 PM
2 posts for Hastings1L Woman? seems like a flame to me.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Hastings1L Woman on April 06, 2008, 07:19:35 PM
Wow, this place doesn't smell like an elitist country club at all.

A discussion forum that frowns upon new members voicing their reactions to a poster's representation of her school- definitely the place to find advice on where to get a legal education that prepares you for a diverse world.

Ya, good luck with your career.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on April 06, 2008, 11:17:40 PM
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As a  female first year at UC Hastings, I am angered and offended by my classmate's characterization of his female colleagues as "As for the women, there is quite a fair share of attractive girls. Almost none are overweight and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent." This sexist comment not only reveals the writer's stupidity, but also degrades the Hastings community. Whoever this poster is, he/she does not represent us, and should keep in mind that being a sexist makes passing the professional responsibility requirement for the bar really hard.

Whoever you are, your response to my post is in my opinion uncalled for, incredulous and unreasonable.  The comment was in response to an honest question by a poster here on LSD which were along the lines of "how are the girls at Hastings." I really don't see how describing my female constituents at Hastings as attractive, fit and intelligent is "sexist" in any context of the word. I am in no way expressing or promoting an attitude that engenders stereotyping of women in any fashion. From an objective reading, it is reasonable to interpret what I said as being entirely positive and free of sexist undertones. I could very well describe my male constituents at Hastings with the exact same descriptions and in all honesty, I would have to say that my male counterparts are quite dashing. Maybe the next time you decide to furiously accuse someone of being a sexist you should look up the word in the dictionary before doing so. Additionally, I don't see how my positive attitude towards my female classmates would hinder my ability to pass the MPRE.

As for representing Hastings, you're right, I do not represent students who choose to make baseless attacks on other students but I think I do a good job representing everyone else. I've been very active on this forum for the purpose of informing and promoting Hastings in a very positive light and have had no intention of offending anyone. I am a well known and well liked student on campus. In fact, the academic and admissions deans have both praised me for my involvement in the Hastings community. Hastings1L woman, if you really feel the way you do, we can take this up with the deans and you can accuse me of making public "sexist" remarks about female students at Hastings. Just send me a PM and we'll set up a time and date to meet. If anyone else feels the way Hastings1L woman does about my comment, please feel free to send me a PM and I will personally address the matter with you.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Hastings1L Woman on April 07, 2008, 02:53:15 PM
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As a  female first year at UC Hastings, I am angered and offended by my classmate's characterization of his female colleagues as "As for the women, there is quite a fair share of attractive girls. Almost none are overweight and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent." This sexist comment not only reveals the writer's stupidity, but also degrades the Hastings community. Whoever this poster is, he/she does not represent us, and should keep in mind that being a sexist makes passing the professional responsibility requirement for the bar really hard.

Whoever you are, your response to my post is in my opinion uncalled for, incredulous and unreasonable.  The comment was in response to an honest question by a poster here on LSD which were along the lines of "how are the girls at Hastings." I really don't see how describing my female constituents at Hastings as attractive, fit and intelligent is "sexist" in any context of the word. I am in no way expressing or promoting an attitude that engenders stereotyping of women in any fashion. From an objective reading, it is reasonable to interpret what I said as being entirely positive and free of sexist undertones. I could very well describe my male constituents at Hastings with the exact same descriptions and in all honesty, I would have to say that my male counterparts are quite dashing. Maybe the next time you decide to furiously accuse someone of being a sexist you should look up the word in the dictionary before doing so. Additionally, I don't see how my positive attitude towards my female classmates would hinder my ability to pass the MPRE.

As for representing Hastings, you're right, I do not represent students who choose to make baseless attacks on other students but I think I do a good job representing everyone else. I've been very active on this forum for the purpose of informing and promoting Hastings in a very positive light and have had no intention of offending anyone. I am a well known and well liked student on campus. In fact, the academic and admissions deans have both praised me for my involvement in the Hastings community. Hastings1L woman, if you really feel the way you do, we can take this up with the deans and you can accuse me of making public "sexist" remarks about female students at Hastings. Just send me a PM and we'll set up a time and date to meet. If anyone else feels the way Hastings1L woman does about my comment, please feel free to send me a PM and I will personally address the matter with you.

First, the dictionary is not the authority to run to for anything. Second, saying that your male counterparts are dashing does not make it ok for you to trivialize your female counterparts by identifing them based on attractiveness, weight, and intelligence. That's stereotyping based on gender at its worst -- for the benefit of your reliance on the dictionary. Third, what the deans at this school think of you and your involvement in the Hastings community has no relevance to the nature of your comment. Being an active student doesn't give you license to make sexist comments. Fourth, I don't have to set up a time or place to meet you. I see you everyday in class.

Also, I hope you give the same reply to a job applicant interviewing for the firm you work for in the future, and see what consequences follow. It's good to know that there are aspiring lawyers out there who approach a woman based on her attractiveness, weight, and intelligence (or lack there of, since it's only for the most part) in that order.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: SCK2008 on April 07, 2008, 04:17:09 PM
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As a  female first year at UC Hastings, I am angered and offended by my classmate's characterization of his female colleagues as "As for the women, there is quite a fair share of attractive girls. Almost none are overweight and they are all, for the most part, very intelligent." This sexist comment not only reveals the writer's stupidity, but also degrades the Hastings community. Whoever this poster is, he/she does not represent us, and should keep in mind that being a sexist makes passing the professional responsibility requirement for the bar really hard.

Whoever you are, your response to my post is in my opinion uncalled for, incredulous and unreasonable.  The comment was in response to an honest question by a poster here on LSD which were along the lines of "how are the girls at Hastings." I really don't see how describing my female constituents at Hastings as attractive, fit and intelligent is "sexist" in any context of the word. I am in no way expressing or promoting an attitude that engenders stereotyping of women in any fashion. From an objective reading, it is reasonable to interpret what I said as being entirely positive and free of sexist undertones. I could very well describe my male constituents at Hastings with the exact same descriptions and in all honesty, I would have to say that my male counterparts are quite dashing. Maybe the next time you decide to furiously accuse someone of being a sexist you should look up the word in the dictionary before doing so. Additionally, I don't see how my positive attitude towards my female classmates would hinder my ability to pass the MPRE.

As for representing Hastings, you're right, I do not represent students who choose to make baseless attacks on other students but I think I do a good job representing everyone else. I've been very active on this forum for the purpose of informing and promoting Hastings in a very positive light and have had no intention of offending anyone. I am a well known and well liked student on campus. In fact, the academic and admissions deans have both praised me for my involvement in the Hastings community. Hastings1L woman, if you really feel the way you do, we can take this up with the deans and you can accuse me of making public "sexist" remarks about female students at Hastings. Just send me a PM and we'll set up a time and date to meet. If anyone else feels the way Hastings1L woman does about my comment, please feel free to send me a PM and I will personally address the matter with you.

First, the dictionary is not the authority to run to for anything. Second, saying that your male counterparts are dashing does not make it ok for you to trivialize your female counterparts by identifing them based on attractiveness, weight, and intelligence. That's stereotyping based on gender at its worst -- for the benefit of your reliance on the dictionary. Third, what the deans at this school think of you and your involvement in the Hastings community has no relevance to the nature of your comment. Being an active student doesn't give you license to make sexist comments. Fourth, I don't have to set up a time or place to meet you. I see you everyday in class.

Also, I hope you give the same reply to a job applicant interviewing for the firm you work for in the future, and see what consequences follow. It's good to know that there are aspiring lawyers out there who approach a woman based on her attractiveness, weight, and intelligence (or lack there of, since it's only for the most part) in that order.


One of the best flames I've seen in a while.  Nicely done/tag.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: thebiggdawg55 on April 07, 2008, 06:03:57 PM
When did evaluating the attractiveness of members of the opposite sex become "sexist"? Chauvinist? Maybe. Crude? Absolutely. But sexist? Hardly.

In any case, I think your objection is with the question as it was asked, not the answer that was provided.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on April 07, 2008, 06:28:05 PM
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First, the dictionary is not the authority to run to for anything. Second, saying that your male counterparts are dashing does not make it ok for you to trivialize your female counterparts by identifing them based on attractiveness, weight, and intelligence. That's stereotyping based on gender at its worst -- for the benefit of your reliance on the dictionary. Third, what the deans at this school think of you and your involvement in the Hastings community has no relevance to the nature of your comment. Being an active student doesn't give you license to make sexist comments. Fourth, I don't have to set up a time or place to meet you. I see you everyday in class.

1) I guess I'm the only one who gives the Dictionary any credence when it comes to defining words. After all, defining words is only its primary use.

2) Tell me this, if you were to walk around campus and ask 100 guys "hey, what do you think about the women here at Hastings?" and most of them say "I think they're attractive and smart" you would flat out call them out on being a sexist? First, I think that's absolutely absurd and second, you need to take a deep breath and relax.

I don't see how I'm trivializing women by "identifying" them with positive terms. Being attractive (good hygiene, caring about your outward appearance), fit (maintaining a healthy diet and exercising regularly) and smart are arguably three qualities that most people appreciate. Keep in mind, this was a response tailored to a question based on the context it was presented.

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tell us about the women, and anything else about student life

This is the question I was responding to. When someone asks "tell us about the women," call me crazy but for some reason I don't think they're looking for an answer like "what about the women? I think they are friendly just like all the men on campus." Also, I really don't see what is wrong with being attractive, fit and intelligent. Most women would probably interpret what I said as being complementary but you seem very, very bitter about these descriptions and I can only imagine why. It was a short question and I gave a short and honest opinion. This is a casual forum and I intend to be casual and frank about posts. I reply to posts on here just as I would to any anonymous guy I would meet on the street. Some people, like yourself, obviously take this forum way too seriously and get bitter about a very casual response I gave to an anonymous poster on the internet. I hope you feel empowered by anonymously flaming me on a post that was essentially left unnoticed by any of the thousands of people, including females, that have read it.

3) My reference to the deans was in response to you saying that I am poor example of a representative for Hastings, not as a means of bolstering my oh-so-sexist post. I choose not to address your banal and prepubescent comment on my intelligence.

4) I wasn't implying that I meet with you one on one, you'd probably bite my head off. If you see me in class everyday, it must be a painful ordeal to tolerate the presence of such a prominent sexist as myself on a daily basis. What I was suggesting, because you are so visibly disgruntled with my harmless post, is that we take this up with the deans because it would be a terrible thing to leave a male chauvinist on the internet trivializing the women of Hastings on a high-traffic public forum left unchecked. I mean, wouldn't you love to see a a huge sexist like me get reprimanded by school officials?

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Also, I hope you give the same reply to a job applicant interviewing for the firm you work for in the future, and see what consequences follow. It's good to know that there are aspiring lawyers out there who approach a woman based on her attractiveness, weight, and intelligence (or lack there of, since it's only for the most part) in that order.

First of all, being the kind of person I am, I wouldn't have any interest in talking to job applicants interviewing for a firm I'll be working at, ESPECIALLY if they are females who aren't attractive, fit or intelligent.  :-*
Chances are, I'll be working for Male, Manly & Masculinity LLP where all the chicks are really hot anyways. In the off chance that I don't get a job there, I'd probably end up working at a public interest organization that deals with gender equality and women's rights.

Second, brace yourself for the shock of your lifetime............the harsh, harsh reality is that there are many many men out there, not just "aspiring lawyers," who "approach" women based on attractiveness, fitness and intelligence. Call me a raving lunatic but these are 3 qualities that I very much appreciate in not only women but all people in general.

And finally, I love you, fellow classmate.



Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: SCK2008 on April 07, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
What's the over/under on how many lbs. Hastings1L Woman is weighing in at?  Don't they have treadmills in SF?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on April 07, 2008, 06:42:40 PM
There's a few in our gym at the McAllister Tower. It's a quaint little gym too, I think you would enjoy it.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: SCK2008 on April 07, 2008, 06:43:35 PM
Oh good, thanks.  I actually prefer to run outdoors but it is nice to have options.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: motorolalawyer on April 07, 2008, 07:47:47 PM
"Hastings 1L Woman" is clearly a troll who was rejected from UC Hastings and is posing as a student to cause trouble. Take your negativity elsewhere.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: SBToLaw on April 08, 2008, 03:30:08 AM
EVERYBODY DANCE NOW.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: TurboBoy on April 09, 2008, 04:25:01 AM
Hey.  Let's get back to our good Q&A we were having, thanks to our very kind question answerers.  Here's more for ya:

Would you please talk more about the living situation in the student housing?  And you said that you would not recommend bringing a car.  Why is that?  What's the parking situation like?  Is the public transportation that great?  Does it run all night?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: kmanopoulos on April 09, 2008, 01:07:49 PM
i am still waiting to hear back from hastings. and i should be recieving a letter in the mail today or tomorrow for the LEOP program? is this a good or bad sign that i am still waiting to hear?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: tashakies on April 09, 2008, 01:31:04 PM
I have a question too-
Its been said Hastings has a very harsh curve.. anyone know exactly what that is? And also, what roughly are the grades for those who fall around top 30%, 50% and do students at Hastings think it is particularly difficult to fall around those numbers?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: HastingsOneL on April 09, 2008, 01:38:58 PM
I have a question too-
Its been said Hastings has a very harsh curve.. anyone know exactly what that is? And also, what roughly are the grades for those who fall around top 30%, 50% and do students at Hastings think it is particularly difficult to fall around those numbers?

http://www.uchastings.edu/site_files/Academics/regs.pdf

B. Grade Normalization


1001. Grades in GPA courses: B- and above. In all GPA courses, 65 to 80 percent of the grades in each class should be B- or above. (As defined in §901, a GPA course is a course in which a grade is given primarily on the basis of an anonymously graded exam.) With respect to first-year classes, neither the Academic Dean nor the Records Office shall accept a grade sheet that fails to meet this requirement.

1002. Grades in GPA courses: A- and above. In all GPA courses, 10 to 20 percent of the grades given should be in the A range (A-, A, A+). The grade of A+, although rare, may be granted to reward superlative performance in any course. (As defined in §901, a GPA course is a course in which the grade is given primarily on the basis of an anonymously-graded exam.) With respect to first-year classes, neither the Academic Dean nor the Records Office shall accept a grade sheet that fails to meet this requirement.

1003. Grades in non-GPA courses, seminars and LWR. In all non-GPA courses, seminars and Legal Writing and Research, 10 to 33-1/3 percent of the grades should be in the A range (A-, A, A+) and the median grade shall be a B. The grade of A+, although rare, may be granted to reward superlative performance in any such course. (Non-GPA courses are defined in §901 as courses in which a grade is given primarily on the basis of student performance other than on an anonymously-graded exam.)

1004. Grades of C, D, and F. After satisfaction of the grade normalization requirements set forth in §§1001-1003, the distribution of grades of C (C+, C, C-), D, and F is at the instructor’s discretion. Student performance that is unsatisfactory, however, should be assigned a grade of C- or lower. Student performance that is unsatisfactory and falls substantially below the performance of the other students in the class should be assigned a grade of D or F.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: Harsh Reality on April 09, 2008, 03:58:36 PM
What is the GPA for the Top 10% for last year's class?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on April 09, 2008, 10:54:10 PM
This data, from last year, is pulled off the NALP directory at nalplawschoolsonline.org. The GPA's vary from year to year but don't deviate significantly so this breakdown is fairly accurate:

Top 10%:     3.518
Top 25%:    3.331
Top 33%:    3.234
Top 50%:    3.048
Top 75%:    2.806

As for the curve, it is harsh but only superficially. Most employers could care less if you have a 2.5 if statistics show that you're in the top 10% of your class. This will just show how harsh the grading curve at X school is. The GPA determines the class rank and it is the rank, which is not affected by the "harsh curve," that matters.



Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on April 09, 2008, 11:02:42 PM
By the way, there's an accepted students day this Saturday if anyone here going to Hastings and has not heard about the event yet. I'll be on campus leading some tours and I'll be happy to personally meet with anyone to answer additional questions. Just shoot me a PM if you're interested. Hope to see some of you there.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: tashakies on April 09, 2008, 11:11:51 PM
This data, from last year, is pulled off the NALP directory at nalplawschoolsonline.org. The GPA's vary from year to year but don't deviate significantly so this breakdown is fairly accurate:

Top 10%:     3.518
Top 25%:    3.331
Top 33%:    3.234
Top 50%:    3.048
Top 75%:    2.806

As for the curve, it is harsh but only superficially. Most employers could care less if you have a 2.5 if statistics show that you're in the top 10% of your class. This will just show how harsh the grading curve at X school is. The GPA determines the class rank and it is the rank, which is not affected by the "harsh curve," that matters.





Thank you! This is very helpful.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: thebiggdawg55 on April 13, 2008, 06:35:56 PM
Are there scholarships avaiable if you do well after your first year? If so, what are they like and how many kids get em?
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: camdiz on April 16, 2008, 11:33:09 AM
how does hastings place out of California? It sounds like one would do well sticking aroudn CA for biglaw, but how about on the east coast? would you say that Hastings is primarily a regional school? thanks!
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: LSATnooblet on May 02, 2008, 05:02:20 PM
Not sure about merit scholarships. I haven't heard of any.

As for placement, I haven't seen any stats so I don't know how well we place out of state, especially in the East Coast. I would assume we are primarily a regional school. The vast majority of our alums are in CA, either in LA or the Bay Area. If you want to work in the East Coast I'd probably pick a similarly ranked school out there over Hastings.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: credo on May 02, 2008, 05:43:36 PM
I have a question too-
Its been said Hastings has a very harsh curve.. anyone know exactly what that is? And also, what roughly are the grades for those who fall around top 30%, 50% and do students at Hastings think it is particularly difficult to fall around those numbers?

http://www.uchastings.edu/site_files/Academics/regs.pdf

B. Grade Normalization


1001. Grades in GPA courses: B- and above. In all GPA courses, 65 to 80 percent of the grades in each class should be B- or above. (As defined in §901, a GPA course is a course in which a grade is given primarily on the basis of an anonymously graded exam.) With respect to first-year classes, neither the Academic Dean nor the Records Office shall accept a grade sheet that fails to meet this requirement.

1002. Grades in GPA courses: A- and above. In all GPA courses, 10 to 20 percent of the grades given should be in the A range (A-, A, A+). The grade of A+, although rare, may be granted to reward superlative performance in any course. (As defined in §901, a GPA course is a course in which the grade is given primarily on the basis of an anonymously-graded exam.) With respect to first-year classes, neither the Academic Dean nor the Records Office shall accept a grade sheet that fails to meet this requirement.

1003. Grades in non-GPA courses, seminars and LWR. In all non-GPA courses, seminars and Legal Writing and Research, 10 to 33-1/3 percent of the grades should be in the A range (A-, A, A+) and the median grade shall be a B. The grade of A+, although rare, may be granted to reward superlative performance in any such course. (Non-GPA courses are defined in §901 as courses in which a grade is given primarily on the basis of student performance other than on an anonymously-graded exam.)

1004. Grades of C, D, and F. After satisfaction of the grade normalization requirements set forth in §§1001-1003, the distribution of grades of C (C+, C, C-), D, and F is at the instructor’s discretion. Student performance that is unsatisfactory, however, should be assigned a grade of C- or lower. Student performance that is unsatisfactory and falls substantially below the performance of the other students in the class should be assigned a grade of D or F.

FYI the old curve (above) has been voted out and a more lenient curve will be in effect starting Fall '08.  I believe 90% of the grades will now be B- or above with up to 30% being in the A range.  There will also be no curve for class with under 30 students.
Title: Re: UC Hastings 1L taking questions
Post by: dbgirl on May 02, 2008, 11:42:45 PM
Are there scholarships avaiable if you do well after your first year? If so, what are they like and how many kids get em?
There are scholarships for the top STUDENT in the SECTION (or it might be the top 3), and assorted other scholarships for students who get good grades, as well as a handful of scholarships for poor people.  You apply at the end of your first year.  I wouldn't count on getting more than $5,000 from a scholarship. Most are in the $1,500 to $3,000 range.