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Title: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 24, 2006, 06:43:21 AM
what are your plans?

i should end up with my JD by 38, and i just dont see me in a Big Law firm...

lemme know if you need additional options added
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: Jolie Was Here on July 24, 2006, 06:49:33 AM
I'm fairly sure that the long-term goal is academia.  Finances may compel me to do a few biglaw years (aka I owe a metric assload in student loans!!)  That doesn't bother me much, since I've already had a career where I had to work biglaw intensity and biglaw hours for not-biglaw money.  Besides, I think a big firm can be excellent training grounds. 
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 24, 2006, 07:01:50 AM
from everything ive been reading about biglaw, the only upsides are the $$$ and the potential for nookie.

and id rather make less $$$ if it was more reasonable hours.


Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: sck on July 24, 2006, 07:17:08 AM
My ideal world is government or in-house. But I'm happy with pretty much everything but BigLaw. We want to have kids some day and I'll be 37 when I get out....
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 24, 2006, 07:32:58 AM
I have a master's in education and would really do something related to education, but I don't really know how easy that is to break into because I don't want to teach. I will probably be satisfied working anywhere outside of biglaw or criminal law.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: slacker on July 24, 2006, 08:42:42 AM
I'd like to be in a mid-sized firm. I have loans to support, and want to get rid of those as soon as possible without killing myself. As someone who's entering 3L without having had a biglaw summer associateship, biglaw is not realistic for several reasons, even if I'd been interested. I'm also interested in in-house, but that's not a common "just graduated" option.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: check01 on July 24, 2006, 09:11:35 AM
I chose the cheap school specifically so I wouldn't need to do Biglaw to pay off my loans. I wanted to go into academia, but after learning more about the process I decided I just couldn't put my family through it.  My dream job now is working for the AG doing consumer protection.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 24, 2006, 09:41:04 AM
I'm not sure yet.  I'm really interested in criminal law, I hear that it's never gets dull but the money isn't great b/c most of the people you rep don't have the money to pay.  I wouldn't even mind being a public defender, but again, the money isn't good.  It's not like i'm going to law school just to make a sh*tload of money, but i have to do something that will allow me to pay my loans.  I'll be 40 when i'm done & i don't want to be worried about paying back loans well into my 50's.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: Stacie on July 24, 2006, 01:10:05 PM
I'm not sure...I'm interested in elder law, which in this area generally means small firm, but you never know.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: MrSmittie on July 24, 2006, 03:16:05 PM
I hope to strike out on my own. I may work for a small-mid firm or perhaps a DA or PD, but my ultimate goal is to have my own gig. I'd love to meet a few other non-trads in school that are interested in doing something similar.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 24, 2006, 03:20:27 PM
ths seems like an ideal networking place for those wanting to start their own firms...
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: MrSmittie on July 24, 2006, 03:37:42 PM
I've been told by attorney friends that pretty much everybody wants to start their own firms, but most of the time reality gets in the way.


I'll buy that. I'm certain it will be extremely difficult if one carries a great deal of LS debt and/or has not established additional sources of income/savings/assests/investments to help get them through an inevitable bumpy start.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: GwenK on July 26, 2006, 07:51:46 AM
I'm thinking in-house or small firm - don't want to outrageous big law hours/hassle/bullsh*$. The company I work for now has offered to let me stay on part-time in my department through LS (even if it's only 10 hours a week filing) to keep my tenure there. Then, when I graduate, I would go full-time in the legal dept. - not bad. But, not sure that the company practices the kind of law I want to go into. So, I'm keeping my options open until I get through 1L.

As an aside, I feel better hearing some others out there graduating at 37-38. I'll be 38 and have had this nagging "are you too old" thing going through my head. At the end of the day, I don't care because it's what I want to do. But, there is comfort in knowing others are jumping in at this age too.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 09:24:57 AM
As an aside, I feel better hearing some others out there graduating at 37-38. I'll be 38 and have had this nagging "are you too old" thing going through my head. At the end of the day, I don't care because it's what I want to do. But, there is comfort in knowing others are jumping in at this age too.
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I know what you mean.  I sometimes get that nagging feeling too.  But I think that there are some advantages to doing this a little later in life...The "Party Animal" is usually out of the system by the time you're in your mid-late 30's (for most of us anyway) & for those of us who have kids who are already grown or older kids, there's no guilt about not spending time w/them.  They're like a support system.  My son has been telling me to do this for about 3yrs now, I'm finally listening.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: GwenK on July 26, 2006, 10:39:19 AM
I agree. The only caveat is that most often, because my husband and I don't have children(yet, maybe never, we haven't decided,) people feel compelled to remind me that 38 is pretty old to start having a family, etc., etc.

Of course, this reminder is completely unsolicited, but I am supposed to receive that information with a smile and a revolutionary "OMG, you're right. What was I thinking. I should stop now and procreate this instant. Thank you for setting me straight! Forget LS." When I don't respond accordingly, there's a disappointment and "poor her" type of pathetic stare. UGH.

Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 10:44:29 AM
I agree. The only caveat is that most often, because my husband and I don't have children(yet, maybe never, we haven't decided,) people feel compelled to remind me that 38 is pretty old to start having a family, etc., etc.

Of course, this reminder is completely unsolicited, but I am supposed to receive that information with a smile and a revolutionary "OMG, you're right. What was I thinking. I should stop now and procreate this instant. Thank you for setting me straight! Forget LS." When I don't respond accordingly, there's a disappointment and "poor her" type of pathetic stare. UGH.



you poor gilr!!! dont you know 38 is pretty late to be starting a family?

and, umm, oh yeah!  forget LS, you need to go procreate immediatly!


i am available to help with the last part  ;D
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: sck on July 26, 2006, 11:12:29 AM
I agree. The only caveat is that most often, because my husband and I don't have children(yet, maybe never, we haven't decided,) people feel compelled to remind me that 38 is pretty old to start having a family, etc., etc.

Of course, this reminder is completely unsolicited, but I am supposed to receive that information with a smile and a revolutionary "OMG, you're right. What was I thinking. I should stop now and procreate this instant. Thank you for setting me straight! Forget LS." When I don't respond accordingly, there's a disappointment and "poor her" type of pathetic stare. UGH.



OMG, GwenK are you me?

We have the same issue. And it stresses us out a bit because we WANT kids... but I want to do the law school thing while I still have time to, oh, pay back my loans and send my kids to college. I'll be just barely 37 when I finish.

It also doesn't help that my fiance's family is full of people in the medical field, so his mom says 'Ok, just remember how old you are' to us a lot.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 26, 2006, 11:18:19 AM
I'm only 29 and get the same thing- it's ridiculous! One of my friends went back at 27 and you'd think she was going back at 42 or something the way she acted like it was the worst mistake she'd ever made and now she'd have to give up kids forever. I'm not even married now, so what am I going to do? Just meet some random guy off the street and decide to have a kid?
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: erox on July 26, 2006, 11:38:17 AM
Ha! Yeah, I am 27 and doing a four year program. I am visiting my parents and stopped by to see an old employer today. One of the first things he asked was whether I was married. When I said no, he was all, "Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone." Jeez! I was so embarassed.

That being said, I do know a few female attorneys who are over 30 who act all desperate to find someone and have kids. I don't want to be that lady, and I don't think I will be, but do you all think it is true that it will be much more difficult to get married, etc as a 30+ woman with a legal education? Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent? And, if it did happen, how impossible would it be to start a family during school and how would that affect employment opportunities? I am not rethinking my decision to attend LS, but these are definitely things that I think about as random people make unsolicited comments about my age/marital status/career plans.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 11:47:47 AM
Ha! Yeah, I am 27 and doing a four year program. I am visiting my parents and stopped by to see an old employer today. One of the first things he asked was whether I was married. When I said no, he was all, "Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone." Jeez! I was so embarassed.

That being said, I do know a few female attorneys who are over 30 who act all desperate to find someone and have kids. I don't want to be that lady, and I don't think I will be, but do you all think it is true that it will be much more difficult to get married, etc as a 30+ woman with a legal education? Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent? And, if it did happen, how impossible would it be to start a family during school and how would that affect employment opportunities? I am not rethinking my decision to attend LS, but these are definitely things that I think about as random people make unsolicited comments about my age/marital status/career plans.

if your looking for a man of equal career status, id say good luck.  most powerful men want trophy wives or moms for their brats.

you could always date a postal guy....
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: Jolie Was Here on July 26, 2006, 11:56:12 AM
Oh, y'all are striking a familiar chord!  I'm about to turn 30 and I'm not married.  You'd think it was the world's greatest tragedy from the way my family reacts. 

My mom's newest thing is that she's begun to knit clothing for my children.

My as-yet unborn unconceived, unplanned-for children. 

She consults me on color selection and fit, but becomes pouty when I point out the inherent silliness.  "Well, *sigh*, who knows if I'll still be here when you finally decide to have a family?  I'd hate to think that my grandbabies will have nothing that I'd made for them.  IF you even have children, which at this point..."

I am able to take it in stride, for the most part.  But every once in a while...like earlier this month, when I went to my cousin's wedding and watch her hitch her star to an unemployed feminine hygiene product.  Everyone kept sidling up to me and saying, "Don't worry.  I'm sure you'll find someone someday." I kept wanting to scream, "Are you kidding me?!"  I mean, I'm about to head off to a fabulous law school after dreaming about this education for years, but I'm supposed to be suicide on a stick because there's no ring on the magic finger?  Gah.

 
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 12:02:13 PM
you women just dont know how the ssytem works!!!

do what I plan on doing, be 40 and date a hot 18 yr old....   ;D
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: sck on July 26, 2006, 12:02:38 PM
I frankly didn't even feel old enough to be even thinking about being married until I was, oh, 28 or so. I'm 33 now.

I really don't know about the idea of kids during law school, although I've checked out the whole idea of family-friendly schools just in case. I prefer to go to school full-time but if I'm at a school that allows it.... if kids happen, part time's an option (especially as my fiance is a teacher so can be home early enough.)

But as it is, we do sort of want kids (well, one) before we're 40. We figure have one, adopt another! It's kind of stressful to think about starting a new career and having kids at the same time. It's another reason I've no interest in working BigLaw.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 12:18:09 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 12:23:22 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

whats funny is how women always think that these men are the exception, rather than the rule.  more guys would be like that if they only had the $$$
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: Jolie Was Here on July 26, 2006, 12:27:29 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

Here's the key, though: I wouldn't touch an attorney with somebody else's tort.  (Okay, that didn't make much sense, but you know what I'm saying ;))  I've dated lawyers before, and many of my closest friends are lawyers, and I will soon be a lawyer.  Yet still I've come to the firm conclusion that most lawyers are big hairy assclowns. 
I'm not particularly concerned with my partner's "status" or "prestige".  And let's face it, ladies -- if we wanted 19 year olds, we wouldn't even have to pay for it!     
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 12:28:41 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

whats funny is how women always think that these men are the exception, rather than the rule.  more guys would be like that if they only had the $$$

i don't think this is the exception at all anymore, i'm finding out this is the norm.  i didn't want to believe a friend of mine when he told me that men do everything that they do just to get laid, b/c i wanted to think that they was more to it than that.  i totally believe him now.  and that is why i'm ok w/casual relationships w/men, b/c they can't be anything more.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 12:31:12 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

whats funny is how women always think that these men are the exception, rather than the rule.  more guys would be like that if they only had the $$$

i don't think this is the exception at all anymore, i'm finding out this is the norm.  i didn't want to believe a friend of mine when he told me that men do everything that they do just to get laid, b/c i wanted to think that they was more to it than that.  i totally believe him now.  and that is why i'm ok w/casual relationships w/men, b/c they can't be anything more.

and we love you for that   :-*
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: Phatmal on July 26, 2006, 12:31:18 PM
There are plenty of very intelligent guys out there that aren't lawyers, doctors or anything else that makes big money.  Just remember not to look past a guy based on his job.  Plumbers can be intelligent too.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 12:31:46 PM


And let's face it, ladies -- if we wanted 19 year olds, we wouldn't even have to pay for it!     
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 :D do you think so?!  Think about what 19yr old guys are like...i'm pretty sure we wouldn't have to pay a thing.  ;)
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 12:32:24 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

Here's the key, though: I wouldn't touch an attorney with somebody else's tort.  (Okay, that didn't make much sense, but you know what I'm saying ;))  I've dated lawyers before, and many of my closest friends are lawyers, and I will soon be a lawyer.  Yet still I've come to the firm conclusion that most lawyers(including me) have big hairy asses. 
I'm not particularly concerned with my partner's "status" or "prestige".  And let's face it, ladies -- if we wanted 19 year olds, we wouldn't even have to pay for it!     

ummm, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 12:34:09 PM
There are plenty of very intelligent guys out there that aren't lawyers, doctors or anything else that makes big money.  Just remember not to look past a guy based on his job.  Plumbers can be intelligent too.

Plumbers over 30 want 18yr olds too.  It's not the profession, it's the age.  
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: Jolie Was Here on July 26, 2006, 12:34:59 PM
There are plenty of very intelligent guys out there that aren't lawyers, doctors or anything else that makes big money.  Just remember not to look past a guy based on his job.  Plumbers can be intelligent too.

Seriously!  My guy and I were actually an item back in high school, and everyone thought it was nuts -- I was the uber-brain, he was a dropout who kept getting busted for selling acid at raves.  We lost touch with one another and only reconnected a few months ago...he's now a gazillionaire with his own IT Project Management consulting firm.  And what do I have to show for all my 'brains'?  Two degrees and a lot of debt!
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 12:36:53 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

whats funny is how women always think that these men are the exception, rather than the rule.  more guys would be like that if they only had the $$$

i don't think this is the exception at all anymore, i'm finding out this is the norm.  i didn't want to believe a friend of mine when he told me that men do everything that they do just to get laid, b/c i wanted to think that they was more to it than that.  i totally believe him now.  and that is why i'm ok w/casual relationships w/men, b/c they can't be anything more.

and we love you for that   :-*

who are you??? you're funny!!  maybe we could be "friends"...as long as you're under 23.  :D
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
"Well, men certainly are intimidated by smart women. But don't worry, you look good so you'll find someone."
 Do men REALLY only want women they perceive as less intelligent?

Sorry to say this, but yes.  I work w/attys & none of them want to be w/someone who's in the same field or equally as intelligent.  The single attys all want girls, not women.  I was even told that i'm not smart b/c i'm not using what i have to get want i want (material things of couse) from any older guy that will be willing to pay for me.  I even know an atty who's very wealthy & is not ashamed of paying for his girls, b/c he gets to brag to all of the married attys who wish they could put their hands on a 19yr old.  I didn't believe that men were this shallow until I started working here.  There's an endless parade of college girls who are 5'10, 100lbs who come in & out of this office.  They don't strike me as the intelligent type either (i've spoken to a couple of them)

whats funny is how women always think that these men are the exception, rather than the rule.  more guys would be like that if they only had the $$$

i don't think this is the exception at all anymore, i'm finding out this is the norm.  i didn't want to believe a friend of mine when he told me that men do everything that they do just to get laid, b/c i wanted to think that they was more to it than that.  i totally believe him now.  and that is why i'm ok w/casual relationships w/men, b/c they can't be anything more.

and we love you for that   :-*

who are you??? you're funny!!  maybe we could be "friends"...as long as you're under 23.  :D

inches?  or years?

online, i can be as much of either as you want  ;)
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 12:43:55 PM
There are plenty of very intelligent guys out there that aren't lawyers, doctors or anything else that makes big money.  Just remember not to look past a guy based on his job.  Plumbers can be intelligent too.

Seriously!  My guy and I were actually an item back in high school, and everyone thought it was nuts -- I was the uber-brain, he was a dropout who kept getting busted for selling acid at raves.  We lost touch with one another and only reconnected a few months ago...he's now a gazillionaire with his own IT Project Management consulting firm.  And what do I have to show for all my 'brains'?  Two degrees and a lot of debt!

Jolie, your guy was smart all along, he just took the scenic route to get where his is today.  That's pretty funny. 
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ADL on July 26, 2006, 01:00:50 PM
who are you??? you're funny!!  maybe we could be "friends"...as long as you're under 23.  :D
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inches?  or years?

online, i can be as much of either as you want  ;)
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this is why i love web..........
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 01:02:08 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: erox on July 26, 2006, 06:58:53 PM
There are plenty of very intelligent guys out there that aren't lawyers, doctors or anything else that makes big money.  Just remember not to look past a guy based on his job.  Plumbers can be intelligent too.

Yeah, I am NOT looking to date another atty. I like winning all the arguments. heh.

I don't care what a guy does for a living, as long as he has interests and can hold a conversation. I basically want a male wife...you know, someone to stay home with the kids and move around with me so I can pursue my glamorous career in int'l development, live all over the world, and still have someone to chill with when I get home.

When it comes down to it, I just want someone pretty to bring to parties! Is that too much to ask?!?

damnit.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 26, 2006, 07:02:32 PM
There are plenty of very intelligent guys out there that aren't lawyers, doctors or anything else that makes big money.  Just remember not to look past a guy based on his job.  Plumbers can be intelligent too.

Yeah, I am NOT looking to date another atty. I like winning all the arguments. heh.

I don't care what a guy does for a living, as long as he has interests and can hold a conversation. I basically want a male wife...you know, someone to stay home with the kids and move around with me so I can pursue my glamorous career in int'l development, live all over the world, and still have someone to chill with when I get home.

When it comes down to it, I just want someone pretty to bring to parties! Is that too much to ask?!?

damnit.

FINALLY, someone else that understands people are meant to be objectified!
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 27, 2006, 12:13:31 PM
for those of you that are gunning for BigLaw, you dont think youll feel akward?
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: check01 on July 27, 2006, 01:21:30 PM
for those of you that are gunning for BigLaw, you dont think youll feel akward?

Why?  Because of the opinions of douchebags who say things like this?  Most of us have enough experience to know that people who say and/or think such things don't matter.

If, on the other hand, you mean something else by "awkward" -- like maybe chairs preferred by biglaw firms tend to feel better to younger butts -- then you have my apologies.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: dbgirl on July 27, 2006, 01:23:11 PM
for those of you that are gunning for BigLaw, you dont think youll feel akward?

I wouldn't say I'm gunning for BigLaw, but what's awkward about it?
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 27, 2006, 02:34:12 PM
for those of you that are gunning for BigLaw, you dont think youll feel akward?

I wouldn't say I'm gunning for BigLaw, but what's awkward about it?

being a 1st yr there will all these kids in thier mid 20's.  just feel akward
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: dbgirl on July 27, 2006, 04:50:18 PM
for those of you that are gunning for BigLaw, you dont think youll feel akward?

I wouldn't say I'm gunning for BigLaw, but what's awkward about it?

being a 1st yr there will all these kids in thier mid 20's.  just feel akward


Older students don't stand out unless they are visibly much older. And, there are several people in their late 20s to mid-30s.
I just don't tell people how old I am.
When my classmates talk about how "old" they are, being 30 or whatever, I just sit there acting innocent.  :)

Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 27, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
I'm 29, but really don't stand out from my younger classmates. I am not going to go around saying "Hey, I'm 29!" unless it comes up in conversation for some reason.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: aerynn on July 30, 2006, 07:56:28 PM
I would like to recommend computer programmers and engineers for dating purposes.  They may not look cute at a party, but usually they like a smart girl and are eager to please.  :D

As a slightly older student, I did think about the kids thing.  Maybe I will have one someday, but right now I am very aware that law school and a demanding career may not be compatible with that.  My finance and I talked about it and we decided that if it happens, it happens, but we aren't going to plan on having kids for at least 9 or 10 years.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 30, 2006, 08:22:59 PM
for guys, id recomend strippers and sororsluts

cute and non-complicated
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: aerynn on July 30, 2006, 08:25:50 PM
for guys, id recomend strippers and sororsluts

cute and non-complicated

Skip strippers.  They are CRAZY.  I mean, not even good for a one night stand crazy.  :o  To any strippers who are perfectly sane, psycologically healthy people who just needed some quick money, I apologize.  But as a dating rule, I'd approach with extreme care.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 30, 2006, 08:34:26 PM
I would like to recommend computer programmers and engineers for dating purposes.

I would like to second this.  I mean, for if and when the bad boy/girl phase is over.
   
They aren't badboys in your area? I've sworn off programmers because the ones in this area seem to need rehab more than a girlfriend.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: aerynn on July 30, 2006, 08:52:20 PM
I would like to recommend computer programmers and engineers for dating purposes.

I would like to second this.  I mean, for if and when the bad boy/girl phase is over.
   
They aren't badboys in your area? I've sworn off programmers because the ones in this area seem to need rehab more than a girlfriend.

I've ran into a few, but mostly they are the younger ones.  Get one over 25 and they are better.  Go 28+ to find one that has(had?) dot com money.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 31, 2006, 03:59:43 AM
just remember, when you date a guy for money, your a prostitute, whether you admit it to yourself or not...


;D
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 31, 2006, 05:16:31 AM
I didn't find that the 25+ ones were that much better, actually. Their salaries are better and maybe they've calmed down a bit but it's still not a place I think of to find "good" guys.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: aerynn on July 31, 2006, 06:27:08 AM
I didn't find that the 25+ ones were that much better, actually. Their salaries are better and maybe they've calmed down a bit but it's still not a place I think of to find "good" guys.


Hmmmm, if even the programmers and engineers in your area are bad boys, I don't have any advice for you.  That just crazy! 
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: sck on July 31, 2006, 08:33:24 AM
That's crazy to me -- the two really serious boyfriends I had before my fiance, one was a computer engineer, the other was a java programmer and instructor. I LIKE engineers. A lot.

Granted, if I were better at math, I might be an engineer, so there you go.

Now I'm going to marry a teacher, though....
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 31, 2006, 08:36:42 AM
That's crazy to me -- the two really serious boyfriends I had before my fiance, one was a computer engineer, the other was a java programmer and instructor. I LIKE engineers. A lot.

Granted, if I were better at math, I might be an engineer, so there you go.

Now I'm going to marry a teacher, though....

I spent some time working in IT-related jobs, and it just doesn't seem like there are a lot of "good" guys working in that field over here. They're usually quite bright and interesting, but I can't deal with the other issues they have.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on July 31, 2006, 08:57:13 AM
That's crazy to me -- the two really serious boyfriends I had before my fiance, one was a computer engineer, the other was a java programmer and instructor. I LIKE engineers. A lot.

Granted, if I were better at math, I might be an engineer, so there you go.

Now I'm going to marry a teacher, though....

I spent some time working in IT-related jobs, and it just doesn't seem like there are a lot of "good" guys working in that field over here. They're usually quite bright and interesting, but I can't deal with the other issues they have.

TELL ME ABOUT IT.  i cant wait to be 100% it job free.

i hate it and there such wieners!

girls arent much better though...
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: sck on July 31, 2006, 09:12:44 AM
I admit it -- my job is currently network security.

But then, I work for some great people, and my boss is as big of a smartass as I am.

I think I just don't deal with the engineers in a work setting, though, either.

But I've been lucky with the ones I've known, too -- most of them were pretty interesting and amusing.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 31, 2006, 09:17:54 AM
I admit it -- my job is currently network security.

But then, I work for some great people, and my boss is as big of a smartass as I am.

I think I just don't deal with the engineers in a work setting, though, either.

But I've been lucky with the ones I've known, too -- most of them were pretty interesting and amusing.

I did QA for a while and just finished doing some contract work and quite a few of the programmers I worked with were intolerable. My supervisor at both my QA jobs would go home and cry some nights because our coworkers were so horrific. 
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: sck on July 31, 2006, 12:20:24 PM
Yick!

I suspect the positiveness of my experience has also been because I don't work in the IT industry, I work in the IT department of an oil and gas company. So we work with a lot of programmers and such, but very few of them have that 'engineer mentality'. Granted, there is one guy I work with that I can think of who is like that -- I like him, but I'm glad I don't have to work with him very closely on a daily basis, because I'd want to smack him over the head.
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: queencruella on July 31, 2006, 12:27:18 PM
Yick!

I suspect the positiveness of my experience has also been because I don't work in the IT industry, I work in the IT department of an oil and gas company. So we work with a lot of programmers and such, but very few of them have that 'engineer mentality'. Granted, there is one guy I work with that I can think of who is like that -- I like him, but I'm glad I don't have to work with him very closely on a daily basis, because I'd want to smack him over the head.

Most of the nice IT guys I meet are already married. I have a close friend who is a developer and married my college roommate, but I absolutely could not stand him initially. It seems like a lot of developers/engineers need someone who can help calm them down, and I am not that woman!
Title: Re: For the older students, say 28+
Post by: ->Soon on September 22, 2006, 11:59:05 AM
the more i hear about big law, the worse it seems.

everything bad liek a corp, and ALL LAWYERS!

yuck