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Title: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: LizPendens™ on June 12, 2006, 03:03:39 AM


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The green flag starts the race.   Good luck to all LSDers taking the June 06 LSAT.

(Yes, that is Nick Lachey, though at first glance I thought it was David Hasselhoff. This does not bode well for Mr. Lachey.)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: LizPendens™ on June 12, 2006, 09:23:42 AM
9...8...7...6..5..4...3...2.. .

It has begun on the East Coast.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jrosh on June 12, 2006, 12:50:38 PM
I can't wait until they come back.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: potato on June 12, 2006, 01:12:25 PM
Oh my, that does look like the Hoff.

When is expected to be out on the East Coast?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: angrykorean on June 12, 2006, 02:27:11 PM
ok. what was the experimental? i totally tanked the 3rd section...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zerofact0r on June 12, 2006, 02:38:58 PM
I'm pretty sure section 2 is the experimental.  I had games for section 1 and for section 2, and then logical reasoning for 3rd.  A friend of mine had logical reasoning for section 1 and then games on 2 and 3...so..
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 02:53:07 PM
I'm back.  Too frazzled to think at the moment, but it was tougher than I was expecting, esp the first LR section.  Or, just as likely, I choked at the beginning.  For those trying to figure out the experimental, I had LR, LG, LG, LR, RC.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jabrams817 on June 12, 2006, 02:56:11 PM
I had the following order: LG, LR, LR, RC, LR. I think 2 is the experimental. I thought the last LR was hard, otherwise it wasn't bad. the last 2 LG's were extremely easy.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 02:57:36 PM
I'm starting to think the old method for determing the experimental doesn't work anymore.  Seems like they randomly ordered the sections.  I had LG LR LR RC LR.  What were some of the LR questions that people who only had two LR's ran into?  I had some question about HDL/LDL cholesterol, I think, in the third section.  Also, question about species being large and requiring more food. 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Kazzzzzzzzaaam on June 12, 2006, 02:59:22 PM
I'm starting to think the old method for determing the experimental doesn't work anymore.  Seems like they randomly ordered the sections.  I had LG LR LR RC LR.  What were some of the LR questions that people who only had two LR's ran into?  I had some question about HDL/LDL cholesterol, I think, in the third section.  Also, question about species being large and requiring more food. 

Nixon, you only had one LG section?  My best friend just called me panicking, he got done and had two LG sections, one of which he's convinced he bombed...  He doesn't have internet, so let me know if you had only one LG.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:00:23 PM
Yes, the LG were 22 questions.  International movies, classes offered, recipients of magazines, computer chip speeds.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Kazzzzzzzzaaam on June 12, 2006, 03:01:59 PM
Yes, the LG were 22 questions.  International movies, classes offered, recipients of magazines, computer chip speeds.

NICE!  Thanks alot man, my friend will really appreciate it.  He asked me to find out if the one on someone who only had one LG had computer chips, because that was the one he felt okay about.  Want me to ask him which LR section he had so you can compare?  I know its a little harder, but I'm going to call him now and let him know.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: phillygirl on June 12, 2006, 03:02:51 PM
Um...Just took it. How do you know when you should cancel?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:02:56 PM
The tough questions I ran into in LR were some about separating truth and beauty in art, how the ability to experience emotions is necessary for making great art, a plan to distribute herbal tinctures to increase profits, I'll try to think of more
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:03:28 PM
Um...Just took it. How do you know when you should cancel?

For me, when I'm done crying and am no longer too inebriated to work the fax
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:04:13 PM
Yes, the LG were 22 questions.  International movies, classes offered, recipients of magazines, computer chip speeds.

NICE!  Thanks alot man, my friend will really appreciate it.  He asked me to find out if the one on someone who only had one LG had computer chips, because that was the one he felt okay about.  Want me to ask him which LR section he had so you can compare?  I know its a little harder, but I'm going to call him now and let him know.

That'd be great.  Yeah, the other LG were really easy, too bad there were only 22 questions.  Sure, if you could get any of the LR questions, that'd be great.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Kazzzzzzzzaaam on June 12, 2006, 03:08:49 PM
Yes, the LG were 22 questions.  International movies, classes offered, recipients of magazines, computer chip speeds.

NICE!  Thanks alot man, my friend will really appreciate it.  He asked me to find out if the one on someone who only had one LG had computer chips, because that was the one he felt okay about.  Want me to ask him which LR section he had so you can compare?  I know its a little harder, but I'm going to call him now and let him know.

That'd be great.  Yeah, the other LG were really easy, too bad there were only 22 questions.  Sure, if you could get any of the LR questions, that'd be great.

Nixon, he couldn't remember the ones you mentioned, but I remember from my December test that the experimental LR (I had 3) had a question with truth and beauty in art, so I would probably chalk that one out as being the experimental.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jabrams817 on June 12, 2006, 03:11:09 PM
 "how the ability to experience emotions is necessary for making great art"

-I thought this was the hardest question on the whole test. I'm convinced that both A and C were right, but I put A. What'd you think?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 03:11:25 PM
Yes, the LG were 22 questions.  International movies, classes offered, recipients of magazines, computer chip speeds.

NICE!  Thanks alot man, my friend will really appreciate it.  He asked me to find out if the one on someone who only had one LG had computer chips, because that was the one he felt okay about.  Want me to ask him which LR section he had so you can compare?  I know its a little harder, but I'm going to call him now and let him know.

That is absolute music to my ears.  I had two LG sections, and I felt awful about one, good about the other - the 'computer chips and mail' section.  The (experimental?) LG with the kids and chaperones or whatever really f'ed me, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:12:50 PM
Was it like: It is not true that truth and beauty are the same, because then the most realistic art works would be the best art works, since they are the most truthful.  But in fact, many realistic paintings are not the best works of art.  Therefore something something.. It was a "what assumption is required"
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jabrams817 on June 12, 2006, 03:13:32 PM
"were some about separating truth and beauty in art"

-I remember this question, I think it was an assumption one right? I think the answer was A, something like "The most beautiful paintings are the best ones"
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:14:24 PM
"how the ability to experience emotions is necessary for making great art"

-I thought this was the hardest question on the whole test. I'm convinced that both A and C were right, but I put A. What'd you think?

I guess you put the one about how if computers can't experience emotions then they can't depict them or something?  I put the other one: if computers are constructed to not experience emotions, they can't make great art.  You're probably right, though
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:14:55 PM
"were some about separating truth and beauty in art"

-I remember this question, I think it was an assumption one right? I think the answer was A, something like "The most beautiful paintings are the best ones"

That's what I said.  Great.  Let's declare it TCR
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: TurtleSandwich on June 12, 2006, 03:37:29 PM
I had LG RC LR RC LR.

My second RC was the experimental - the only would SQUIDS or whatever the hell that was. During the break I was really bummed about the RC since it was tough, but then the fourth section came along, soon afterwards I found out it was the non-experimental RC, and I was a happy camper :) The games were incredibly easy...I found one LR moderately difficult (the one with beauty and art) and the other LR fairly straightforward (except for the fact that I had to skip question 24 - a parallel reasoning question).

Otherwise, I'm glad it's over.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:46:14 PM
The games were incredibly easy...I found one LR moderately difficult (the one with beauty and art) and the other LR fairly straightforward (except for the fact that I had to skip question 24 - a parallel reasoning question).

Okay, thanks, but this is the post-mortem and If I'm correct the purpose of it is to detail questions from the exam.  You're looking for the "How I did great on the LSAT" thread
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: CDX on June 12, 2006, 03:46:34 PM
My order was LG LG LR RC LR

I had two LG's --

The first included the foreign film festival, the mail sorting, etc

The second had one about foreign language teachers in Jr High and Sr. High and one about hats (tams, fedoras, something else)

I'm really hoping the second LR (section 2 for me) was the experimental, because I messed up a rule in the last game and didn't get time to go back and fix it.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:47:39 PM
I'm really hoping the second LR (section 2 for me) was the experimental, because I messed up a rule in the last game and didn't get time to go back and fix it.

It was
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 03:47:49 PM
I had LR-LR-LG-LR-RC.

Several tough questions:

Professor claims any of his students who heard X's entire lecture found it fascinating; some of his students found it fascinating, so some must have attended the enitre lecture; what's the flaw in his logic? (2nd LR section, I think): it seemed like all the answers were wrong, but I think I chose D--all students who attended the entire lecture weren't his

Beauty in art: I chose computers can't create great art
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 03:49:43 PM
LR LR LG LR RC ....

Somebody talk to me about the LR pollen question.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:50:07 PM
Professor claims any of his students who heard X's entire lecture found it fascinating; some of his students found it fascinating, so some must have attended the enitre lecture; what's the flaw in his logic? (2nd LR section, I think): it seemed like all the answers were wrong, but I think I chose D--all students who attended the entire lecture weren't his

Oh jesus, I don't even remember seeing this question.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 03:51:12 PM
I had LR-LR-LG-LR-RC.

Several tough questions:

Professor claims any of his students who heard X's entire lecture found it fascinating; some of his students found it fascinating, so some must have attended the enitre lecture; what's the flaw in his logic? (2nd LR section, I think): it seemed like all the answers were wrong, but I think I chose D--all students who attended the entire lecture weren't his


I didn't have this question.  The growing consensus is that section #2 was experimental. 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 03:53:38 PM
I didn't have this question.  The growing consensus is that section #2 was experimental. 

But he says it was his second LR, so it coudn't have been section 2.  I had 3 LR sections, and didn't see the question he mentioned.  Maybe LSAC did something screwy?? .. God, why do they torture us like this
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 03:54:34 PM
I had LR-LR-LG-LR-RC.

Several tough questions:

Professor claims any of his students who heard X's entire lecture found it fascinating; some of his students found it fascinating, so some must have attended the enitre lecture; what's the flaw in his logic? (2nd LR section, I think): it seemed like all the answers were wrong, but I think I chose D--all students who attended the entire lecture weren't his


I didn't have this question.  The growing consensus is that section #2 was experimental. 

That was my guess at the time.  The question (and answers) seemed poorly enough formed that I would be surprised if it were part of the real test.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: CDX on June 12, 2006, 03:56:03 PM
So wait --

is the experimental the section of which there is the most variety?  In other words, would everyone have had the same questions, just in a different order?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 03:59:44 PM
Pollen and the ancient statues LR question....

is it?

a) people and wind spread pollen
b) same pollen same plants, different location
c) no good pollen data
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:02:04 PM
My order: LR LR LG LR RC

As for the art question, I had "A" at first but I changed it to "C".

All the LR really blended together, have no idea how I did.
RC was pretty easy I thought but I was pressed for time on the science/maize one and may have dropped a coupld there.
Games were fine but for some reason the foreign films one really stumped me for the longest time and by the time I figured out the key I was rushing and think I dropped a couple there too.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:02:24 PM
Pollen and the ancient statues LR question....

is it?

a) people and wind spread pollen
b) same pollen same plants, different location
c) no good pollen data

I said people and wind spread pollen.  Like many of the Q's, I didn't really have time to evaluate all the answer choices too carefully, but that one seemed most like the answer.  The other things seem like they could be accounted for, but wind movements and human distribution are pretty random
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jabrams817 on June 12, 2006, 04:03:01 PM
I think it's b) something like "types of pollen were common to more than one region" That's what I put. I almost put the "wind or people spread the pollen" answer
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:03:22 PM
Pollen and the ancient statues LR question....

is it?

a) people and wind spread pollen
b) same pollen same plants, different location
c) no good pollen data

I said people and wind spread pollen to other regions because if the pollen was blown in from a different region, and got on the artifact you couldn't use that to accurately say what region the artifact had been in.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Crunched on June 12, 2006, 04:03:34 PM
Pretty sure its that people spread pollen.  therefore the statues could be exposed to pollen not from their indiginous area and the finding that they were from that area would be incorrect.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: CDX on June 12, 2006, 04:05:06 PM
Did anyone have the game about the tams and the fedoras and the other hat?  In which # section did y'all have it?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Einstein on June 12, 2006, 04:05:32 PM
but it says in the stimulus that the pollen is compared to plants that are known to only be in that area...

So it follows that people or wind must have displaced the pollen.. making it stick to things that are not in the region it is suppose to be exclusive to..
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 04:06:52 PM
Pollen and the ancient statues LR question....

is it?

a) people and wind spread pollen
b) same pollen same plants, different location
c) no good pollen data

I went with the wind one; the question was which would make it unreliable, and the question said they only used plants isolated to one place.  c) would make it difficult, not unreliable.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:07:30 PM
Did anyone have the game about the tams and the fedoras and the other hat?  In which # section did y'all have it?

no, this was the experimental
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 04:09:22 PM
Did anyone have the game about the tams and the fedoras and the other hat?  In which # section did y'all have it?

I didn't; that was definitely an experimental.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Einstein on June 12, 2006, 04:10:35 PM
what have the scales looked like on the recent lsat exams?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:12:38 PM
what have the scales looked like on the recent lsat exams?

http://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/correct_targeted.htm
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:13:17 PM
everybody else feeling like the games were easy, reading comp wasnt that bad, and LR was the toughest?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:14:17 PM
and were there only 100 ?s....22LG, 27RC, 26LR, 25LR
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:14:44 PM
Anyone remember some stuff from the last RC passage with questions about the maize and the enzyme and the oxygen? I was pressed for time on that one.  :-[
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rodriguez43 on June 12, 2006, 04:15:59 PM
LR, LR, LG, LR, RC

LG was extremely easy...it was the film, mail sorting, chip speed, etc.

RC kicked my ass for some reason.  I usually kill that section, ah well.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:16:17 PM
Anyone remember some stuff from the last RC passage with questions about the maize and the enzyme and the oxygen? I was pressed for time on that one.  :-[

dont remember anything...toughest one imo
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:18:55 PM
Anyone remember some stuff from the last RC passage with questions about the maize and the enzyme and the oxygen? I was pressed for time on that one.  :-[

I remember: which could you infer about the rice?  I said that its rubisco was segregated into the bundle sheath cell, because all it said was that rice was a C-4 plant and this seemed like the definition of C-4 they gave
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rodriguez43 on June 12, 2006, 04:19:09 PM
Anyone remember some stuff from the last RC passage with questions about the maize and the enzyme and the oxygen? I was pressed for time on that one.  :-[

dont remember any specifics (im drunk) but that was one of two passages that killed me.  the other was the african artifact one.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:19:47 PM
Anyone remember some stuff from the last RC passage with questions about the maize and the enzyme and the oxygen? I was pressed for time on that one.  :-[

dont remember anything...toughest one imo

I agree.  I think some of the technical stuff at the end of the passage screwed me up.

The other RCs were what? female doctors, african art classification, and...?

Using computer simulations in the courtroom- EASY
African Art classification-MEDIUM
Ancient Greek and Roman Woman Doctors-EASY
Maize and C-4 Photosynthesis- DEATH
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hank Rearden on June 12, 2006, 04:20:15 PM
I also agree with everyone who has said the first LR section was tough.  I could have missed up to 4 or 5 on that one.  The rest I thought was pretty simple though, except for the last RC passage about photowhateverthefuck, but I had 12 minutes to do it, so I think it went OK.

Anyone remember the LR question about the new age philosopher talking about nonlinear something?  I had no idea on that one, I guessed A.  

For the pollen one I'm pretty sure it was the answer choice about people and wind moving pollen, and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that.  

Anyone remember what they put on the garlic-eating question on the last LR section?  It was either know what was in everyone's diet, or know what the effects of eating garlic for less than 4 months is.  
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Floridaman on June 12, 2006, 04:20:25 PM
Games not bad
my first LR a little tough....did ok
2nd LR about the best I've felt about an LR passage
RC....fine until the last passage....that was tough....hopefully didn't drop too many there
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:20:36 PM
Anyone remember some stuff from the last RC passage with questions about the maize and the enzyme and the oxygen? I was pressed for time on that one.  :-[

I remember: which could you infer about the rice?  I said that its rubisco was segregated into the bundle sheath cell, because all it said was that rice was a C-4 plant and this seemed like the definition of C-4 they gave

RIGHT! THats the one I was thinking about! I must have changed my answer back and forth between that or the one about taking up the oxygen. I dont even remember which one I settled on. Uggg.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:22:20 PM
and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that.

See, I had that, but then thought "who cares if its THE MOST beautiful, all that should matter is beautiful = best" and changed it to C. Either I made a poor choice or I stand alone, correct.  :-\
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:22:38 PM
I also agree with everyone who has said the first LR section was tough.  I could have missed up to 4 or 5 on that one.  The rest I thought was pretty simple though, except for the last RC passage about photowhateverthefuck, but I had 12 minutes to do it, so I think it went OK.

Anyone remember the LR question about the new age philosopher talking about nonlinear something?  I had no idea on that one, I guessed A. 

For the pollen one I'm pretty sure it was the answer choice about people and wind moving pollen, and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that. 

Anyone remember what they put on the garlic-eating question on the last LR section?  It was either know what was in everyone's diet, or know what the effects of eating garlic for less than 4 months is. 

garlic was with their diets, cause those could have effected those levels
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:23:25 PM

Anyone remember what they put on the garlic-eating question on the last LR section?  It was either know what was in everyone's diet, or know what the effects of eating garlic for less than 4 months is. 

I said it was their diet, because that would certainly be an outside factor that controls cholestorol. It said specifically the study was less then 4 months already in the passage.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:24:10 PM
Anyone remember the LR question about the new age philosopher talking about nonlinear something?  I had no idea on that one, I guessed A. 

Oh God..verbal diarrhea.  I think I might have gone with A also.  Do you remember ANY part of that answer? 

Anyone remember what they put on the garlic-eating question on the last LR section?  It was either know what was in everyone's diet, or know what the effects of eating garlic for less than 4 months is. 

I said what was in their diet.  As a science major, this is what would have been TCR had this been an MCAT question.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: slcslc on June 12, 2006, 04:26:13 PM
Fascinating to read all this, very helpful, but very frightening too...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:27:16 PM
For the woman in medicine one, the whole point was that they were not rare in those cultures, right? I remember being stuck up between that and another answer.

Also, I had to guess between 2 for the "choose a title" one for the African Art. I went with the one that mentioned "central somethingorother" and declined the one that ended in "why historians are wrong" or something like that. Ring a bell to anybody?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: LawJedi on June 12, 2006, 04:27:50 PM
I also chose the diet answer for the garlic question.

As for the pollen question, I may have gotten in wrong. I think it was a weaken question wasn't it, and so introducing that the pollen found in one region is similar to another region weakens the arguement that you can determine what region its from based on pollen.

Or at least that's what I remember.

I had LG LR LR RC LR
First LR was Exp. Hard.
Second LR was Hard, didn't finish. Third was easier. Only difficult RC was photosynthesis (guessed on two b/c of time) and the Games were ridiculously easy. Anyone remember the fastest J could be? I think it was the second-to-last question, I put D.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:27:59 PM
What was the "title" for the african art passage?  First Q in the section.

They all seemed stupid except for A?

How about the last one, whats the definition of "Central" art?  I said art that was made with distinct styles and it mentioned other tribes in surrounding areas
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:29:58 PM
How about the RC question reagarding the maize. The last questions or second last question was a what would the author agree with question. I forget what letter I put, but the responce I chose was the only one that mentioned human development.

I think I messed up the foriegm/films movies question. I must have missed an inference, because I had no idea on the second question why any one of those films could not have played first.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:30:02 PM
Anyone remember the LR question about the new age philosopher talking about nonlinear something?  I had no idea on that one, I guessed A. 

Oh, I think I put the one that said that the flaw is you can't analyze something abstractly if it has a structure.  that seems write.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: LizPendens™ on June 12, 2006, 04:30:15 PM
Fascinating to read all this, very helpful, but very frightening too...

Uh yeah, now I'm not so sure that I'll even have a chance at being ready for September.

God, why do you hate me so? :::shaking fists at sky:::
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:31:31 PM

I think I messed up the foriegm/films movies question. I must have missed an inference, because I had no idea on the second question why any one of those films could not have played first.

Me too, it took me a while to figure that one out and I was rapidly out of time. There was one especially I kept trying to find the right anser to and had to settle for one I knew was wrong because time was called.  :-[ Oh well, the other 3 seemed pretty easy at least.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:33:34 PM
How about the RC question reagarding the maize. The last questions or second last question was a what would the author agree with question. I forget what letter I put, but the responce I chose was the only one that mentioned human development.

I think I messed up the foriegm/films movies question. I must have missed an inference, because I had no idea on the second question why any one of those films could not have played first.

happened to me too with that game, couldnt get the second so i knew i didn something wrong, did all the others, went back with 10 minutes left, erased everything over for the first one and got them all before the 5 min warning...trying to think what i forgot b/c you probably did too...but i can, i wanna say it was N or R but i cant remember...was there even an R..something like one of those
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: dusya4 on June 12, 2006, 04:33:46 PM
and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that.

See, I had that, but then thought "who cares if its THE MOST beautiful, all that should matter is beautiful = best" and changed it to C. Either I made a poor choice or I stand alone, correct.  :-\

I chose C too. I was pretty sure about that one. The one about pollen was definitely that people and wind move the pollen. I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

I thought games were easy, first LR was a little rough, RC was easy and second LR was pretty easy. I didn't mind the maize passage about photosynthesis but then again I'm a science geek.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Skeptic on June 12, 2006, 04:33:50 PM
I am very jealous of all you bastards who had an experimental Games section.  Stupid logical reasoning.


Has anyone else seen more people in one place that looked like their puppies had just died?  Only one guy walked out of my test, but i'm sure a lot more wanted to. 

I love beer.  When i got home from the exam, my girlfriend had left a cooler full of guiness on at my front door!! 

One of the people I was testing with, at the 15 minute break, ran out of the room, punched a glass showcase, screamed some really colorful words into the hallway, and then ran outside to smoke.  But she came back to finish the exam, so I guess it was okay.

I saw a middle-aged man crying after the exam.  It was terrible.


omg that's terrible
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hank Rearden on June 12, 2006, 04:34:03 PM
I'm pretty sure the title question for the African art question was A.

Anyone else impressed that the LSAT managed to combine two of their favorite RC topics (convoluted scientific processes and Native Americans) into one on that last passage?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:35:37 PM
and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that.

See, I had that, but then thought "who cares if its THE MOST beautiful, all that should matter is beautiful = best" and changed it to C. Either I made a poor choice or I stand alone, correct.  :-\

I chose C too. I was pretty sure about that one. The one about pollen was definitely that people and wind move the pollen. I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

I thought games were easy, first LR was a little rough, RC was easy and second LR was pretty easy. I didn't mind the maize passage about photosynthesis but then again I'm a science geek.


thats what i thought for the meeting one
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: oisjf on June 12, 2006, 04:36:04 PM
for the last game about k_ _ l and the h_j or something, anyone remember the first question, it was what could be true
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:36:15 PM

I think I messed up the foriegm/films movies question. I must have missed an inference, because I had no idea on the second question why any one of those films could not have played first.

Me too, it took me a while to figure that one out and I was rapidly out of time. There was one especially I kept trying to find the right anser to and had to settle for one I knew was wrong because time was called.  :-[ Oh well, the other 3 seemed pretty easy at least.
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@#!* I just figured it out now lol. I'm an idiot, if N played first that would mean N had to play three times which was impossible as there was only two of each. Funny thing is that I guessed that answer without knowing why. I hope thats the answer anyway...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:36:44 PM
I'm pretty sure the title question for the African art question was A.

Anyone else impressed that the LSAT managed to combine two of their favorite RC topics (convoluted scientific processes and Native Americans) into one on that last passage?

Hahaha this is so true.  God, they're amazing.  Did you see my response about the philosopher and the linear thing?  I said the flaw was assuming you couldn't anaylze something in an abstract way that had a structure.  Do you remember that answer?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 04:36:50 PM
For the question about what the fastest J could be, the answer was fifth - I believe the answer choice for that was D.

As for the second foreign film question, the answer was norweigan--there were two italian films playing at 2 and 5, and as such the two norweigan films had already been placed.

yup, that was it. i was amazed i missed the first game the first time, skipped it, went back, got them all and it was still before the 5 min, but yea, N was the ans
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hank Rearden on June 12, 2006, 04:36:53 PM
and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that.

See, I had that, but then thought "who cares if its THE MOST beautiful, all that should matter is beautiful = best" and changed it to C. Either I made a poor choice or I stand alone, correct.  :-\

I chose C too. I was pretty sure about that one. The one about pollen was definitely that people and wind move the pollen. I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

I thought games were easy, first LR was a little rough, RC was easy and second LR was pretty easy. I didn't mind the maize passage about photosynthesis but then again I'm a science geek.

Well, for that question you had to find some way to connect "beauty" and being the best painting (that was the missing link in the argument).  There was another answer choice besides A that did that, but it was something like "Only the best art is beautiful", which seemed too restrictive.  
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:37:18 PM
and for the beauty vs. art question I put the most beautiful things are the best art, or something like that.
I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

Yeah, that's what I chose too. Another tough one. God, this test was a blur. What a mess. Hopefully they bless us with an easy curve.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: dusya4 on June 12, 2006, 04:37:39 PM
How was everyone's testing environment? I did end up having really small desks so my back and shoulders are really hurting now after having to work on them for 4+ hours but other than that everything was great. The proctors were very quiet and nobody was making any excessive noises so I was able to concentrate fully, that is after my heart stopped beating like it was going to jump out of my chest :)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 04:37:51 PM
Anyone remember the LR question about the new age philosopher talking about nonlinear something?  I had no idea on that one, I guessed A.  

Anyone remember what they put on the garlic-eating question on the last LR section?  It was either know what was in everyone's diet, or know what the effects of eating garlic for less than 4 months is.  

For the new age one, I got that the new age guy mistakenly assumed that people's thinking needed to match what they were thinking about in structure, or something like that.

For the garlic one, I got know what's in everyone's diet.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hank Rearden on June 12, 2006, 04:38:58 PM
I'm pretty sure the title question for the African art question was A.

Anyone else impressed that the LSAT managed to combine two of their favorite RC topics (convoluted scientific processes and Native Americans) into one on that last passage?

Hahaha this is so true.  God, they're amazing.  Did you see my response about the philosopher and the linear thing?  I said the flaw was assuming you couldn't anaylze something in an abstract way that had a structure.  Do you remember that answer?

I have no idea what those answer choices were.  That question was just scary to me, I don't know why.  I don't think I even read past choice B before I said to myself, these all sound right.  Maybe I'm just not into new age philosophers.  
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hank Rearden on June 12, 2006, 04:39:52 PM
How was everyone's testing environment? I did end up having really small desks so my back and shoulders are really hurting now after having to work on them for 4+ hours but other than that everything was great. The proctors were very quiet and nobody was making any excessive noises so I was able to concentrate fully, that is after my heart stopped beating like it was going to jump out of my chest :)

I loved my room.  Lots of room, comfy chairs, no noise.  
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 04:40:50 PM
Also, I had to guess between 2 for the "choose a title" one for the African Art. I went with the one that mentioned "central somethingorother" and declined the one that ended in "why historians are wrong" or something like that. Ring a bell to anybody?

I went with cultural? centers: their impact on classification.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:41:16 PM
For the new age phiolosopher, I put that the flaw in his assumption was that its possible look at the parts of the whole abstractly or something.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:41:47 PM
room was awsome.

for garlic i picked peoples diets

for art i took good and beauty being the same

for the computer one i put computers cant produce good art.

Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hank Rearden on June 12, 2006, 04:42:08 PM
For the new age phiolosopher, I put that the flaw in his assumption was that its possible look at the parts of the whole abstractly or something.

Do you remember which letter that was?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
For the new age phiolosopher, I put that the flaw in his assumption was that its possible look at the parts of the whole abstractly or something.

I took the one that was like "methods that can be used on whole cant be used on parts" or somethign like that.  we either had same answer or i almost picked yours.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: rtqw on June 12, 2006, 04:42:53 PM
How was everyone's testing environment? I did end up having really small desks so my back and shoulders are really hurting now after having to work on them for 4+ hours but other than that everything was great. The proctors were very quiet and nobody was making any excessive noises so I was able to concentrate fully, that is after my heart stopped beating like it was going to jump out of my chest :)

Mine was great- I took it at the Holiday Inn, we got large tables :)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:43:17 PM
Good room, couldn't stand the jarring sound of the proctor announcing the 5 minutes.  God, she sounded like a prison guard.  Don't people take these jobs by choice?  Probably dropped my score by 2 points or more by making it so unpleasant
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:43:28 PM
For the new age phiolosopher, I put that the flaw in his assumption was that its possible look at the parts of the whole abstractly or something.

Do you remember which letter that was?

I know it was not A or E, that is all i say for sure.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:43:44 PM
I dont even REMEMBER this New Age philosopher question. Another blur.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:45:06 PM
For the computer one, I recall there being two answers that said that computers can't produce good art -- one of them said outright that computers can't produce great art, the other said that unless computers can be programmed to understand deeply held emotions they can't produce great art...I'm fairly sure the correct answer was the latter.

I agree.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:45:44 PM
yup
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 04:46:29 PM
On the computer question, one said they have to HAVE experience emontions while the other one said they are CAPABLE of have emotions. I picked the second one and pretty sure that is the right answer

For the computer one, I recall there being two answers that said that computers can't produce good art -- one of them said outright that computers can't produce great art, the other said that unless computers can be programmed to understand deeply held emotions they can't produce great art...I'm fairly sure the correct answer was the latter.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Schruted on June 12, 2006, 04:47:56 PM
Did anyone else find one of the real LR sections to be outstandingly difficult/long? I'd just like to know where I stand relative to how everyone else did on that one.

For the last RC passage about C-4 photosynthesis, if you comprehended that all C-4 plants (including rice) separate O2 from rubisco (which is in bundle sheath cells), and separating O2 from carbohydrate production was the defining characteristic, and that this is their evolutionary advantage that provides humans with greater food productivity, that should cover almost all of the questions.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:48:29 PM
On the computer question, one said they have to HAVE experience emontions while the other one said they are CAPABLE of have emotions. I picked the second one and pretty sure that is the right answer

For the computer one, I recall there being two answers that said that computers can't produce good art -- one of them said outright that computers can't produce great art, the other said that unless computers can be programmed to understand deeply held emotions they can't produce great art...I'm fairly sure the correct answer was the latter.

You got it. It was the second because unless they could experience the emotion of their art, they couldn't make great art. Weird question, I'm like "where's all this talk about commputers coming from!?" in the answers. My first thought was outside the scope and then I realised, oh no, wait they want us to lose our mind.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:49:02 PM
Did anyone else find one of the real LR sections to be outstandingly difficult/long? I'd just like to know where I stand relative to how everyone else did on that one.

For the last RC passage about C-4 photosynthesis, if you comprehended that all C-4 plants (including rice) separate O2 from rubisco (which is in bundle sheath cells), and separating O2 from carbohydrate production was the defining characteristic, and that this is their evolutionary advantage that provides humans with greater food productivity, that should cover almost all of the questions.

Yup, that's all you need to know.  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:49:20 PM
I thought that the experimental lr was the most difficult (thankfull)... i almost mesed up the first one i had pretty badly because i was real nervous.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: oisjf on June 12, 2006, 04:49:31 PM
For the last Games (the one w/ the K..L and J..H blocks i think), I mistakengly deduced that O was last until I read the O>F question.  Does anyone remember for the couldbe true question (the first one) if the answer choice about G and O in particular spots was right?  Also, does anyone recall any other answers to that?  I know my answers just dont remember the questions.

thanks
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 04:49:41 PM
I chose C too. I was pretty sure about that one. The one about pollen was definitely that people and wind move the pollen. I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

I got the answer about missing a meeting to answer the phone, but I don't think that was the efficient workers one.

The efficiency one was about the manager considering efficiency training--what would weaken his argument?  I put if the best workers had never had training, I think.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: once denied on June 12, 2006, 04:50:42 PM
How was everyone's testing environment? I did end up having really small desks so my back and shoulders are really hurting now after having to work on them for 4+ hours but other than that everything was great. The proctors were very quiet and nobody was making any excessive noises so I was able to concentrate fully, that is after my heart stopped beating like it was going to jump out of my chest :)

Testing environment was OK.  The proctors seemed overly strict about "no food or paper allowed in the room" rule, though.  We had to bring all food, water bottles, kleenex(!), etc., to the front of the room.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:50:47 PM
For the last Games (the one w/ the K..L and J..H blocks i think), I mistakengly deduced that O was last until I read the O>F question.  Does anyone remember for the couldbe true question (the first one) if the answer choice about G and O in particular spots was right?  Also, does anyone recall any other answers to that?  I know my answers just dont remember the questions.

thanks

Yeah that was a tough one too. They couldn't even throw us a bone on the "simple" linear game.  :-*
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:51:08 PM
I chose C too. I was pretty sure about that one. The one about pollen was definitely that people and wind move the pollen. I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

I got the answer about missing a meeting to answer the phone, but I don't think that was the efficient workers one.

The efficiency one was about the manager considering efficiency training--what would weaken his argument?  I put if the best workers had never had training, I think.

I didn't have this question (the one about efficiency traning) but i remember seeing something similar on an older exam....(like one of the last three)

I did have one that was about being late to a meeting though.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 04:51:35 PM

I got the answer about missing a meeting to answer the phone, but I don't think that was the efficient workers one.

Yeah that was one of the questions, it was like #3 or so, one of the "conforms to this principle" questions
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: oisjf on June 12, 2006, 04:51:58 PM
For the pollen one, wind wouldnt matter because the pollen would be tracked to the unique plant anyway
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:53:05 PM
For the pollen one, wind wouldnt matter because the pollen would be tracked to the unique plant anyway

but it was abour regions so if pollen from a unique plant was blown into another region and the item was taken through this new region, it would be as if it went through the region the plant came from. 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 04:53:26 PM
For the pollen one, wind wouldnt matter because the pollen would be tracked to the unique plant anyway

No, it would because the idea is tracking what regions it was carried through by the types of pollen. If the pollen flew in from other regions without the statue going there, you couldn't reliably say where the statue had been. Im pretty sure about this one now.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:54:44 PM
What the hell was with that question about drinking and doubt and praise? I believe I picked B.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 04:55:59 PM
I chose C too. I was pretty sure about that one. The one about pollen was definitely that people and wind move the pollen. I stumbled on the one about illustrating the principle of efficient workers. Was the right answer about missing the beginning of a meeting to get on the phone with an important client? That's what I picked but I wasn't sure.

I got the answer about missing a meeting to answer the phone, but I don't think that was the efficient workers one.

The efficiency one was about the manager considering efficiency training--what would weaken his argument?  I put if the best workers had never had training, I think.

can someone confirm or deny this about the workers... I already added it to the master lr list..
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 04:56:03 PM
What the hell was with that question about drinking and doubt and praise? I believe I picked B.

the answer was F "the less praisworthy your performance on this test, the more likly you are to drink tonight."
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 04:58:27 PM
What the hell was with that question about drinking and doubt and praise? I believe I picked B.

the answer was F "the less praisworthy your performance on this test, the more likly you are to drink tonight."

 :D LOL. I spent too much time on that question, and I cant even remember the responces. That's not a good sign.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: strivergirl on June 12, 2006, 05:06:04 PM
what about the one with the kids and the video games and aggression--the question was which one won't strengthen the argument.  i couldn't pick between many kids already think agression is ok and older kids think agression is ok after video games.  i think i pick the latter.

although i was thinking...'damn, after the lsat i'm starting to think agression is ok...if applied to test-writer nuts'.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
what did u guys have for the one about like....  this guy says this about this professor but it might but that is the normal critique of academia, it might be that he is  just disappointed he isn't good enough...

i picked that it attacks the person, but there was another i gave serious thought to.

as for the video game agression one, i picked the one u didn't but wasn't very sure.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 05:08:23 PM
also what did u guys put for the one about drs having obligations and people needed to be informed or else no rights and then not treated as human (or some crap like that)

I put "something about rights being absolute
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:08:45 PM
Would someone on the first page update any answers they've accumulated in this thread, please?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 05:11:44 PM
For the last Games (the one w/ the K..L and J..H blocks i think), I mistakengly deduced that O was last until I read the O>F question.  Does anyone remember for the couldbe true question (the first one) if the answer choice about G and O in particular spots was right?  Also, does anyone recall any other answers to that?  I know my answers just dont remember the questions.

thanks

Yes.... it was like g 5th and o 7th or something..
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:12:22 PM
also what did u guys put for the one about drs having obligations and people needed to be informed or else no rights and then not treated as human (or some crap like that)

I put "something about rights being absolute

Oh that one! I think I put something like "basic right should not be violated" or something.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 12, 2006, 05:13:00 PM
also what did u guys put for the one about drs having obligations and people needed to be informed or else no rights and then not treated as human (or some crap like that)

I put "something about rights being absolute

Oh that one! I think I put something like "basic right should not be violated" or something.

thank god.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 05:15:39 PM
what did u guys have for the one about like....  this guy says this about this professor but it might but that is the normal critique of academia, it might be that he is  just disappointed he isn't good enough...

i picked that it attacks the person, but there was another i gave serious thought to.

as for the video game agression one, i picked the one u didn't but wasn't very sure.

For the professor one I picked 'attacks the person' as well... but this didn't fit any of the attacks the person examples I have gone through.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:16:29 PM

For the professor one I picked 'attacks the person' as well... but this didn't fit any of the attacks the person examples I have gone through.

I don't remember this one, elaborate?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 05:17:47 PM
It was (I believe) "basic rights are inviolable" to be a bit more precise, but yes.
"Basic rights are inviolable for humans" I think.  The humans part was important since the issue was whether the doctors were treating people like objects, not humans, if they violated the rights.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:18:22 PM
They had goofy British names.  York and something else.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:19:25 PM
It was (I believe) "basic rights are inviolable" to be a bit more precise, but yes.
"Basic rights are inviolable for humans" I think.  The humans part was important since the issue was whether the doctors were treating people like objects, not humans, if they violated the rights.

Yeah that was another tricky one. I think one of the answers was something like "Objects have rights" and at first I was laughing at how absurd it sounded. Then I paused. Then I started to convinced myself that was the answer. Then I thought better of it.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 05:24:05 PM

For the professor one I picked 'attacks the person' as well... but this didn't fit any of the attacks the person examples I have gone through.

I don't remember this one, elaborate?

There was a statement from one professor about another professor and his teaching methods.  Basically, the party dismissed the complaint on the grounds that one professor was 'jelous' of the other.  I think LSAC wanted us to say that it was a faulty argument because it 'attacked the character and not the argument'.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: JuneLSATtaker on June 12, 2006, 05:26:16 PM
There was a statement from one professor about another professor and his teaching methods.  Basically, the party dismissed the complaint on the grounds that one professor was 'jelous' of the other.  I think LSAC wanted us to say that it was a faulty argument because it 'attacked the character and not the argument'.
Was that in your 2nd section (since that was probably the experimental one)?  I don't remember getting that one, and I had an experimental LR section too.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: agm28 on June 12, 2006, 05:26:55 PM
Does anyone know what the last two answers were for the first non-experimental LR section (the hard LR reason)? I ran out of time and guessed D for both of those. Just curious if anyone remembers whether either of those is right...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:27:19 PM
It was (I believe) "basic rights are inviolable" to be a bit more precise, but yes.
"Basic rights are inviolable for humans" I think.  The humans part was important since the issue was whether the doctors were treating people like objects, not humans, if they violated the rights.

Yeah that was another tricky one. I think one of the answers was something like "Objects have rights" and at first I was laughing at how absurd it sounded. Then I paused. Then I started to convinced myself that was the answer. Then I thought better of it.

 :D :D :D

Ditto!  Then I spent fifteen seconds berating myself for being mesmerized by the goddamn LSAT.  DAMN THIS EXAM!

Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:27:48 PM

Was that in your 2nd section (since that was probably the experimental one)?  I don't remember getting that one, and I had an experimental LR section too.

There must have been two experimental LR's circulating!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:28:33 PM
It was (I believe) "basic rights are inviolable" to be a bit more precise, but yes.
"Basic rights are inviolable for humans" I think.  The humans part was important since the issue was whether the doctors were treating people like objects, not humans, if they violated the rights.

Yeah that was another tricky one. I think one of the answers was something like "Objects have rights" and at first I was laughing at how absurd it sounded. Then I paused. Then I started to convinced myself that was the answer. Then I thought better of it.

 :D :D :D

Ditto!  Then I spent fifteen seconds berating myself for being mesmerized by the goddamn LSAT.  DAMN THIS EXAM!



There was another question that had some absurd answer that was like "mammals eat dinosaurs" or something, I was thinking how this could be plausible and just thought f**k this!  ;D
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bueller7233 on June 12, 2006, 05:30:28 PM
I saw someone else ask this as well--does anyone remember whether there were 100 (rather than the normal 101) questions on the test? 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:30:37 PM
what about the one with humans walking up right and the tools they used...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:31:13 PM
What about the resources manager and the fragmented forests?  There were a lot of trick answers on this one
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:31:56 PM
I saw someone else ask this as well--does anyone remember whether there were 100 (rather than the normal 101) questions on the test? 

22LG, 27RC, 26LR 25LR for me=100
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:32:09 PM
what about the one with humans walking up right and the tools they used...

Oh yeah!  That was a tough one too.  GOD I spent so long on it.  I think I chose that many sophisticated tools were made by people who don't walk upright
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:32:50 PM
What about the resources manager and the fragmented forests?  There were a lot of trick answers on this one

think i had c..cant remember exactly what it said
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:32:54 PM
what about the one with humans walking up right and the tools they used...

Oh man, this one sucked too. I think I chose the answer that was something like there was no difference in the dexterity of pre and post upright primates.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:33:23 PM
what about the one with humans walking up right and the tools they used...

Oh yeah!  That was a tough one too.  GOD I spent so long on it.  I think I chose that many sophisticated tools were made by people who don't walk upright

thats what i said too but iwasnt sure
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:34:14 PM
what about the one with humans walking up right and the tools they used...

Oh man, this one sucked too. I think I chose the answer that was something like there was no difference in the dexterity of pre and post upright primates.

that was my second choice
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:34:38 PM
What about the resources manager and the fragmented forests?  There were a lot of trick answers on this one

I put that some animals or plants would be in danger of extinction if there was no intervention.

Seriously it seems like every freakin LR on this test came down to 2 or 3 tricky answers.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
for the humans walking upright one i put something about sophisticated hunting tools.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:35:13 PM
What about the resources manager and the fragmented forests?  There were a lot of trick answers on this one

I put that some animals or plants would be in danger of extinction if there was no intervention.

Seriously it seems like every freakin LR on this test came down to 2 or 3 tricky answers.

yup,some tough ass LR
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:36:13 PM
what about the one with humans walking up right and the tools they used...

Oh man, this one sucked too. I think I chose the answer that was something like there was no difference in the dexterity of pre and post upright primates.

that was my second choice

Yay. Well I went with it because if there was no difference in dexterity, then it would weaken his argument that they aquired some new skill after walking upright.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:36:30 PM
for the humans walking upright one i put something about sophisticated hunting tools.

I'm pretty sure this was the CR.  It was the only one that satisfied all the necessary criteria in the stimulus.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 05:39:13 PM
i put that if X condition and Y conditions were met, the ecologocial system would be fine. I think it was E. I picked that becuase, if X condition and X condition were met, and the ecological system was still crap, it wouldnt matter if the resource managers ensured X and Y were met
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 05:40:03 PM
I picked the one about no diff. in dexterity.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:40:10 PM
what the hell was the parallel reasonin with some girls friends being gardeners and flowers and some bs like that...that was i pain, forget what i put but i think i might have got it
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: strivergirl on June 12, 2006, 05:40:59 PM
what about the one that said many early sophisticated tools don't require the users to be able to stand upright?  that seemed so obvious that i was leery about it, but i went with it anyway.

the reason i didn't pick the dexterity one was that his argument didn't have to do with dexterity, it had to do with being able to have your hands free to make the tools.

and i picked that some plants and animals would be in danger of extinction.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:41:33 PM
I picked the one about no diff. in dexterity.

Good to an ally!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:42:17 PM
what about the one that said many early sophisticated tools don't require the users to be able to stand upright?  that seemed so obvious that i was leery about it, but i went with it anyway.

the reason i didn't pick the dexterity one was that his argument didn't have to do with dexterity, it had to do with being able to have your hands free to make the tools.

and i picked that some plants and animals would be in danger of extinction.

yea i agree



oh and what about that mythological half horse and why people saw it as something or whatever it asked. anyone remember
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:44:08 PM
what about the one that said many early sophisticated tools don't require the users to be able to stand upright?  that seemed so obvious that i was leery about it, but i went with it anyway.

the reason i didn't pick the dexterity one was that his argument didn't have to do with dexterity, it had to do with being able to have your hands free to make the tools.

and i picked that some plants and animals would be in danger of extinction.

yea i agree



oh and what about that mythological half horse and why people saw it as something or whatever it asked. anyone remember

AHH! THAT ONE!!! I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE! Im beginning to realise how much this LR SUCKED.

I picked the one about assuming they matched the horses in their minds or whatever.

Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:44:32 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

yea i dont know, i had the one with the tools. though dexterity was my next choice. i forget what turned me away, something in the word and i felt like dexterity just didnt come into play
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: dusya4 on June 12, 2006, 05:44:52 PM
what about the one that said many early sophisticated tools don't require the users to be able to stand upright?  that seemed so obvious that i was leery about it, but i went with it anyway.

the reason i didn't pick the dexterity one was that his argument didn't have to do with dexterity, it had to do with being able to have your hands free to make the tools.

and i picked that some plants and animals would be in danger of extinction.

yea i agree



oh and what about that mythological half horse and why people saw it as something or whatever it asked. anyone remember

The one about the half horse/half person I picked that the argument assumes that people were afraid of the horse.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 05:45:10 PM
That mythical half horse was the worse. I picked something like the horse in their minds may not represnt the horse in mythology? I did so because it seemed like he attributed fear of horses to these peoples out of left field.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: dusya4 on June 12, 2006, 05:45:53 PM
what the hell was the parallel reasonin with some girls friends being gardeners and flowers and some bs like that...that was i pain, forget what i put but i think i might have got it

I chose A for that. First I picked C and moved on but marked it as a questionable one and returned to it and realized that C didn't have the flaw that the stimulus described.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:46:14 PM
That mythical half horse was the worse. I picked something like the horse in their minds may not represnt the horse in mythology? I did so because it seemed like he attributed fear of horses to these peoples out of left field.

What about that they didn't get the myths from other cultures?  Doesn't that seem like the least spacey answer?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 05:46:41 PM


Oh man, this one sucked too. I think I chose the answer that was something like there was no difference in the dexterity of pre and post upright primates.
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that was my second choice
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Yay. Well I went with it because if there was no difference in dexterity, then it would weaken his argument that they aquired some new skill after walking upright.
[/quote]

This is why I chose dexterity... I spent about 4 minutes on this problem, getting very upset with the two answers.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:48:06 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

yea i dont know, i had the one with the tools. though dexterity was my next choice. i forget what turned me away, something in the word and i felt like dexterity just didnt come into play

Well, my memory may be shady but I thought it was saying they didnt develop the hand skills (dexterity) until after they were upright, and of course if they had the same before and after then it would blow that theory away. But I could be remembering wrong.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: wiretin on June 12, 2006, 05:48:17 PM
About the upright humans, what was the question  stem asking for? I can't remember. I felt very confident about sophisticated hunting tools, although alot of people seem to think it was something about dexterity
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:48:25 PM
That mythical half horse was the worse. I picked something like the horse in their minds may not represnt the horse in mythology? I did so because it seemed like he attributed fear of horses to these peoples out of left field.

What about that they didn't get the myths from other cultures?  Doesn't that seem like the least spacey answer?

think i picked the horse in their mind was different than these creatures. because i felt like though they were half horse, the people viewed them not as horses but an entity unto themselves...idk if that even close but i think thats what i thought
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:48:48 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

yea i dont know, i had the one with the tools. though dexterity was my next choice. i forget what turned me away, something in the word and i felt like dexterity just didnt come into play

No, I'm pretty sure the answer was B.  That's because it presented evidence that conflicted directly with the scientist (or whatever he/she was)'s conclusion.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 05:49:50 PM
Well, my memory may be shady but I thought it was saying they didnt develop the hand skills (dexterity) until after they were upright, and of course if they had the same before and after then it would blow that theory away. But I could be remembering wrong.

The dexterity thing seems right.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:49:55 PM
About the upright humans, what was the question  stem asking for? I can't remember. I felt very confident about sophisticated hunting tools, although alot of people seem to think it was something about dexterity

I'm very sure it had nothing to do with dexterity.  Dexterity was a misdirection -- the stimulus had nothing to do with dexterity.

Often, if you see a word that's key to the meaning of the answer that never appeared in the stimulus, that answer is wrong.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:50:02 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

yea i dont know, i had the one with the tools. though dexterity was my next choice. i forget what turned me away, something in the word and i felt like dexterity just didnt come into play

No, I'm pretty sure the answer was B.  That's because it presented evidence that conflicted directly with the scientist (or whatever he/she was)'s conclusion.


sounds good to me. i dont wanna talk about that one anymore. 1 question is rather meaningless anyway in the scope of things
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:50:25 PM
That mythical half horse was the worse. I picked something like the horse in their minds may not represnt the horse in mythology? I did so because it seemed like he attributed fear of horses to these peoples out of left field.

What about that they didn't get the myths from other cultures?  Doesn't that seem like the least spacey answer?

think i picked the horse in their mind was different that these creatures. because i felt like though they were half horse, the people viewed them not as horses but an entity unto themselves...idk if that even close but i think thats what i thought

Yeah, me too. It wasnt the different cultures one since the stimulus specifically said they were developed at the same time INDEPENDENTLY.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 05:51:20 PM
Well, my memory may be shady but I thought it was saying they didnt develop the hand skills (dexterity) until after they were upright, and of course if they had the same before and after then it would blow that theory away. But I could be remembering wrong.

The dexterity thing seems right.

Yeah, but wasn't the argument that humans had to be upright to develop the advanced weapons?  If so, then this answer just agrees with the conclusion.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:53:18 PM
Well, my memory may be shady but I thought it was saying they didnt develop the hand skills (dexterity) until after they were upright, and of course if they had the same before and after then it would blow that theory away. But I could be remembering wrong.

The dexterity thing seems right.

Yeah, but wasn't the argument that humans had to be upright to develop the advanced weapons?  If so, then this answer just agrees with the conclusion.


It was more then that though, it was something like they didnt develop the SKILL until after they were upright. If they had the same capability before and after then that would weaken it? I was really torn on this one too, if it JUST mentioned the upright thing I wouldnt have been tempted by the dexterity one let alone choose it. But we'll see, I've been fooled before.  :-[
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 05:53:31 PM
What's the consensus on the mythical half horse guys...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:53:43 PM
Well, my memory may be shady but I thought it was saying they didnt develop the hand skills (dexterity) until after they were upright, and of course if they had the same before and after then it would blow that theory away. But I could be remembering wrong.

The dexterity thing seems right.

Yeah, but wasn't the argument that humans had to be upright to develop the advanced weapons?  If so, then this answer just agrees with the conclusion.


i agree with you, but i gotta say we need to leave this one alone, unless somebody can remember everything in the question. cause its just annoying me and nobody really knows for sure...but lets go advanced tools ;D
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:54:26 PM
What's the consensus on the mythical half horse guys...

i think what i had said a few post up maybe..
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 05:55:07 PM
What's the consensus on the mythical half horse guys...

I voted for the one that said it wasnt the same conception of a horse as was in their mind, or whatever. I didnt really get that one. It seemed "least wrong".
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 05:55:40 PM
What's the consensus on the mythical half horse guys...

I voted for the one that said it wasnt the same conception of a horse as was in their mind, or whatever. I didnt really get that one. It seemed "least wrong".

yup definitly right
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 05:57:13 PM
What's the consensus on the mythical half horse guys...

I believe it has to do with in their minds the horse is different
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 05:57:54 PM
What's the consensus on the mythical half horse guys...

I believe it has to do with in their minds the horse is different

got it thanks guys... greystreet... love the avatar  :D
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:01:30 PM
The one about the humans and tools said that humans did not make complex tools before they stood upright. In support of this the author postulated that he thought this was because human beings gained the freedom of movement with their limbs (dexterity) neccessary for sophisticated tool development  when they learned to walk upright. I chose the dex. one.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:02:29 PM
I dunno about the horse one, i chose that they might have borrowed it from another culture.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:03:07 PM
The one about the humans and tools said that humans did not make complex tools before they stood upright. In support of this the author postulated that he thought this was because human beings gained the freedom of movement with their limbs (dexterity) neccessary for sophisticated tool development  when they learned to walk upright. I chose the dex. one.

YESSS!!! EXACTLY!!!! FREEDOM TO MOVE THEIR LIMBS! I knew there was more I just couldn't remember what it was. It was the dexterity answer folks.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:03:45 PM
I dunno about the horse one, i chose that they might have borrowed it from another culture.

Nope, it said in the stimulus that they were many cultures developed them at the same time independently.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:04:55 PM
The one about the humans and tools said that humans did not make complex tools before they stood upright. In support of this the author postulated that he thought this was because human beings gained the freedom of movement with their limbs (dexterity) neccessary for sophisticated tool development  when they learned to walk upright. I chose the dex. one.

YESSS!!! EXACTLY!!!! FREEDOM TO MOVE THEIR LIMBS! I knew there was more I just couldn't remember what it was. It was the dexterity answer folks.
*&^%
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:05:53 PM

YESSS!!! EXACTLY!!!! FREEDOM TO MOVE THEIR LIMBS! I knew there was more I just couldn't remember what it was. It was the dexterity answer folks.

God damnit.  Four more and my fax is on the way
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:06:29 PM

YESSS!!! EXACTLY!!!! FREEDOM TO MOVE THEIR LIMBS! I knew there was more I just couldn't remember what it was. It was the dexterity answer folks.

God damnit.  Four more and my fax is on the way

for real? what do u want?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:06:57 PM
I don't remember I chose which one, either the one saying it fails to establish that myth has to do with horse or the one saying people might have good reason to fear horse.

I dunno about the horse one, i chose that they might have borrowed it from another culture.

Nope, it said in the stimulus that they were many cultures developed them at the same time independently.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:07:45 PM

YESSS!!! EXACTLY!!!! FREEDOM TO MOVE THEIR LIMBS! I knew there was more I just couldn't remember what it was. It was the dexterity answer folks.

God damnit.  Four more and my fax is on the way

for real? what do u want?

looking for 168 at least.  seems like there are at least 4 I certainly missed, four more for sure, plus 4 or 5 stupid mistakes = 13 wrong = 166
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
I dunno about the horse one, i chose that they might have borrowed it from another culture.

Nope, it said in the stimulus that they were many cultures developed them at the same time independently.

To me, the horse question was one of the easier questions.  I didnt even consider the culture answer... The "in their minds to horse is different" answer fit directly.  And AMEN to the dexterity comment Bork, that was my thought process as well.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:08:12 PM
Wait a minute. For the artifacts/dexterity answer issue....

Wasn't there like a really obvious answer? Like how artifacts were found in sites belonging to human ancestors who didn't walk upright? And this was a weaken question, right?

I don't even remember considering anything about dexterity.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:08:38 PM
Lets move on to another question...have we talked about the fragmented forest yet?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:09:57 PM
Lets move on to another question...have we talked about the fragmented forest yet?

we have it as Answer: some animals or plants would be in danger of extinction if no intervention
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:10:06 PM
Lets move on to another question...have we talked about the fragmented forest yet?

cant really remember it. though i put c...or a middle answer.haha
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:10:21 PM
Lets move on to another question...have we talked about the fragmented forest yet?

we have it as Answer: some animals or plants would be in danger of extinction if no intervention
[/quote

Yup!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:10:31 PM
come on guys keep thinkin' have 30+ more questions to think of
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:10:49 PM
There was the answer that said human ancestors who did not walk upright used sophisticated hunting weapons....I reasoned that it was wrong because of something very specific...i forget.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:11:37 PM
Lets move on to another question...have we talked about the fragmented forest yet?

we have it as Answer: some animals or plants would be in danger of extinction if no intervention
[/quote

Yup!

i believe that was what i put too
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:11:44 PM
you guys c'mon lets get OFF of the tools ancestors dexterity question PUHLEASE... have to think of all the other ones
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:12:49 PM
There was the answer that said human ancestors who did not walk upright used sophisticated hunting weapons....I reasoned that it was wrong because of something very specific...i forget.
with that answer (the one I chose) I remember thinking there might have been some vaguery about the tools found on the site, but not necessarily belonging to the non-upright dudes from the site. But then the answer choice explicitly said "belonging to non-upright dudes." (Well, not in those words, but definitely "belonging" was in there).
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:13:08 PM
Ok Ok...there was one about cholestorol and triglycerides and then there was another about Sugar, adrenaline and ADD
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:13:12 PM
What about the one about good and bad cholestoral? I can't even remember the question.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:13:55 PM
Ok Ok...there was one about cholestorol and triglycerides and then there was another about Sugar, adrenaline and ADD

Sugar/ADD one I put that increased adrenaline excasberates ADD.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:14:21 PM
What about the one about good and bad cholestoral? I can't even remember the question.

oo good one..cant exactly remember. maybe if some1 says some stuff
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:14:46 PM
Yeah, I think i put that too. It wasn an assumption question right?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:14:58 PM
What was the role of the statement question...

I remember I had two "conclusion of the argument" answers ---- one being in my expermential section.

I agree with NIXON's fax comment, I scored a 170 on the June '05 test... I am struggling for 85/100 correct today.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:15:05 PM
Ok Ok...there was one about cholestorol and triglycerides and then there was another about Sugar, adrenaline and ADD

i think add one was c. whatever one said it increased the ADD, NOT the one that caused it
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:15:10 PM
you guys c'mon lets get OFF of the tools ancestors dexterity question PUHLEASE... have to think of all the other ones
Sorry, sorry. :)

What about the parallel reasoning one with the math/music skills correlation? I picked the one about not paying attention/poor class performance/bad hearing? I was in a hurry though....
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 06:15:25 PM
The one about the humans and tools said that humans did not make complex tools before they stood upright. In support of this the author postulated that he thought this was because human beings gained the freedom of movement with their limbs (dexterity) neccessary for sophisticated tool development  when they learned to walk upright. I chose the dex. one.

Yeah, but the necessary condition here is that they must be upright.  If there is any evidence that humans who COULDN'T walk upright used advanced tools, then his entire argument falls apart.

And that's all I have to say about that.  hahahaha
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:16:28 PM
Ok Ok...there was one about cholestorol and triglycerides and then there was another about Sugar, adrenaline and ADD

i think add one was c. whatever one said it increased the ADD, NOT the one that caused it

Right the stimulus was like more sugar makes ADD worse because it increases adreneline. And then some BS about candy that was filler I think. So the connection would have been that adrenelane makes ADD worse.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:17:10 PM
OK. I think the Cholesterol, Triglyceride LDL HDL question was an except question....It think the answer was something about HDL being cleared from the blood faster??? That didn't stengthen the argument?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:17:43 PM
I chose that one too.

Sorry, sorry. :)

What about the parallel reasoning one with the math/music skills correlation? I picked the one about not paying attention/poor class performance/bad hearing? I was in a hurry though....
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
Ok Ok...there was one about cholestorol and triglycerides and then there was another about Sugar, adrenaline and ADD

Sugar/ADD one I put that increased adrenaline excasberates ADD.

That is correct...

and did we settle the children and video games yet? (a weaken question)... my answer being: some children already view them as aggressive/violent.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: RX Bandit on June 12, 2006, 06:18:23 PM
The HDL one was the screwball answer about HDLs not leaving the blood as easily, right?

And the sugar/ADD thing was really obvious....I'll think of it in a minute.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:19:22 PM
Hey I thought of another one! Remember the Mayor and the Councilmen and he suggested banning campaign contributions from interest groups so the Councilmen wouldn't vote for stuff that doesnt benefit the city? ANd the answer I put was something like "overlooks that interest groups could benefit the city" or something like that. Ring any bells?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:20:04 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:20:25 PM
Hey I thought of another one! Remember the Mayor and the Councilmen and he suggested banning campaign contributions from interest groups so the Councilmen wouldn't vote for stuff that doesnt benefit the city? ANd the answer I put was something like "overlooks that interest groups could benefit the city" or something like that. Ring any bells?

i dont remember that one..ugh
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:20:49 PM
Also, the one about the distribution of herbal something or other to increase profits?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:21:27 PM
Hey I thought of another one! Remember the Mayor and the Councilmen and he suggested banning campaign contributions from interest groups so the Councilmen wouldn't vote for stuff that doesnt benefit the city? ANd the answer I put was something like "overlooks that interest groups could benefit the city" or something like that. Ring any bells?
No sir. Maybe it's experimental? Closest I could think of was something about rent pricing and how (the conclusion) the city/board/whatever must not care about keeping houses cheap or quality.

I don't remember what's experimental and what's not. I had 3 LRs.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:21:31 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?

This was an EXCEPT question I think so Im having trouble recalling the right answer. I think I put the answer that was about kids reactions to NONVIOLENT video games. Since they're not violent and wouldnt effect them the same way.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:21:39 PM
Also, the one about the distribution of herbal something or other to increase profits?

i remember that, not the ans
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 06:22:12 PM
I think the answer to the video gamse on was something about kids who had not been exposed to violent video games...was that an Except question??
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:22:23 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?

This was an EXCEPT question I think so Im having trouble recalling the right answer. I think I put the answer that was about kids reactions to NONVIOLENT video games. Since they're not violent and wouldnt effect them the same way.

yea, i dont remember what i put but i remember thinking it was pretty easy, rite
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Saja on June 12, 2006, 06:22:45 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?

I think that this was "each strengthens this except" and I picked that it was that some kids were aggressive without playing video games, or something like that, but I'm terrible at remembering the specifics of questions.  I know the answer I picked was B, C, or D.;)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:23:03 PM
Hmmmm....I guess the Councilmen/interest groups one was experiemental. Im sure someone else will remember it.

How about the one about computers replacing TV as the primary entertainment medium? I think it was an except question and the correct one was something like most people with computers also have TVs.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: RX Bandit on June 12, 2006, 06:23:25 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?

It was that younger kids that did not play video games still approved of violence.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:23:46 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?

This was an EXCEPT question I think so Im having trouble recalling the right answer. I think I put the answer that was about kids reactions to NONVIOLENT video games. Since they're not violent and wouldnt effect them the same way.

yea, i dont remember what i put but i remember thinking it was pretty easy, rite
I remember thinking it was easy but now people have posted supposedly correct answer choices that I totally don't remember picking, so now I'm worried. Dammit!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:24:04 PM
Hey I thought of another one! Remember the Mayor and the Councilmen and he suggested banning campaign contributions from interest groups so the Councilmen wouldn't vote for stuff that doesnt benefit the city? ANd the answer I put was something like "overlooks that interest groups could benefit the city" or something like that. Ring any bells?

yes, but i think you are butchering that answer.  and i think it was in my 2nd and exper. section?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:24:35 PM
Also, the one about the distribution of herbal something or other to increase profits?

i remember that, not the ans

This was a principle question. I think the answer was E that if authorities dont think something will be effective it shouldn't be something or other to increase profits.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Schruted on June 12, 2006, 06:24:57 PM
Anyone come up with the answer to the video games/kids/and agression?

It was that younger kids that did not play video games still approved of violence.

Agree.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:29:15 PM
You are right.

Also, the one about the distribution of herbal something or other to increase profits?

i remember that, not the ans

This was a principle question. I think the answer was E that if authorities dont think something will be effective it shouldn't be something or other to increase profits.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:31:28 PM
Anyone remember the feeding mountain monkey one? I chose that they won't get out of their habitat if there is plenty of food. The only other answer I'm a little unsure is the one saying they eat apple only if there is no other fruit.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:32:50 PM
Anyone remember the feeding mountain monkey one? I chose that they won't get out of their habitat if there is plenty of food. The only other answer I'm a little unsure is the one saying they eat apple only if there is no other fruit.

i think that was exp or i really dont remember one
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:33:01 PM
Anyone remember the feeding mountain monkey one? I chose that they won't get out of their habitat if there is plenty of food. The only other answer I'm a little unsure is the one saying they eat apple only if there is no other fruit.
No other fruit is wrong, because of the word "fruit." They eat soybeans!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:33:25 PM
Anyone remember the feeding mountain monkey one? I chose that they won't get out of their habitat if there is plenty of food. The only other answer I'm a little unsure is the one saying they eat apple only if there is no other fruit.
experimental
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:34:21 PM
Large mammals, small mammals?  When they go extinct because they need a larger food supply?  Think I chose B or something
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:34:50 PM
I think the consensus is that section 2 was experimental... so if you happen to remember that your logical reasoning question was in section 2 then it will most likely be of little or no use to us here.  Just a helpful tip... but if you can't remember either way just ignore me =)  and keep rememberin those questions =)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Hiro on June 12, 2006, 06:35:12 PM
Something like Central Banker's job is to curb inflation. Role: premise for conclusion.

Some politician should be promising during the campaign, but it should be ignored. Ass: promise will never be kept.

Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:37:11 PM
Well I had the exp. and dont remember mountain monkees. But then again no one seems to remember my Mayor arguing for campaign contribution limits for councilmen, so we're even.

Anyone remember the one about humans not being able to evolve with dinosaurs because dinosaurs would eat them  and all the plants in their climate zone or something? The answer I had to weaken it was if they lived in different climatic zones.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:37:20 PM
I thought the experimental LR was MUCH easier than the 27 question LR... just my take.  Also, did anybody else get dominated by the parallel reasoning with molly/mary and her female classmates?  I chose a), but that was the most simple answer.  Stimulus was about engineers getting paid more $$$ for some corporation.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:37:27 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:38:31 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications


yea, i think it was like d or e or sometihng. itd ring a bell if someone said it
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:38:36 PM
I was not sure whether you americans consider soybean as fruits, since potato is considered vegetable here which is an absurd idea where I'm coming from.

Anyone remember the feeding mountain monkey one? I chose that they won't get out of their habitat if there is plenty of food. The only other answer I'm a little unsure is the one saying they eat apple only if there is no other fruit.
No other fruit is wrong, because of the word "fruit." They eat soybeans!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:39:07 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications


Primary means of communication for modern flight crew is verbal? I think?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: RX Bandit on June 12, 2006, 06:39:22 PM
Question (not sure if its been addressed already, I've only been reading for the last two pages of the thread :o ): did anyone find the logic games harder than normal?

It kind of took me by surprise.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Futballer on June 12, 2006, 06:39:42 PM
What about the one with the Birds/Flies/Grass/Cows lol.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Saja on June 12, 2006, 06:39:47 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications


We're talking about it in the other thread.  I'm blanking as to the answer, though.  Thanks for your hard work Paigeroo.:) 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:40:24 PM
What about the one with the Birds/Flies/Grass/Cows lol.

predators are kept away by the cows
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:40:44 PM
Question (not sure if its been addressed already, I've only been reading for the last two pages of the thread :o ): did anyone find the logic games harder than normal?

It kind of took me by surprise.

I found the foreign films game tough because I didnt make the connection that there were only 2 of them until the end when I was about out of time (I left it for last). I also thought the last game, for a simple linear game was difficult because of so little restrictions. The other 2 I thought were easy.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:41:21 PM
What about the one with the Birds/Flies/Grass/Cows lol.

predators are kept away by the cows

Seconded.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:42:29 PM
What about the one with the Birds/Flies/Grass/Cows lol.

predators are kept away by the cows

Seconded.

what was the question
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:44:03 PM
I thought the experimental LR was MUCH easier than the 27 question LR... just my take.  Also, did anybody else get dominated by the parallel reasoning with molly/mary and her female classmates?  I chose a), but that was the most simple answer.  Stimulus was about engineers getting paid more $$$ for some corporation.
Stimulus: Most comp programmers highly paid.
Corp is mostly comp programmers.
At least one employee at corp is highly paid.

There were 2 tempting answers. I think they were:

Most garderners are patient
Most of Mary's classmates are gardneres
At least one of Mary's classmates is patient

-and-

Most gardeners are patient
Most of Mary's classmates are gardeners
At least one of Mary's classmates who is a gardener is patient

The second one is wrong because the stimulus didn't specify a comp programmer employee (i.e. gardener classmate), just an employee (i.e. classmate)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:45:06 PM
What about the one with the Birds/Flies/Grass/Cows lol.

predators are kept away by the cows

Seconded.

what was the question

Some birds fly around cows because they eat the bugs on cows. Weaken. Answer is because the birds' predators are scared off by the cows.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:45:26 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications


We're talking about it in the other thread.  I'm blanking as to the answer, though.  Thanks for your hard work Paigeroo.:) 


Anything for you guys  :D
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:46:13 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications

I remember the last one was the one I picked. Something about how "how often a flight crew cross-checks verbally is partly dependent on the availability of other forms of cross-checking."
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:47:09 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications

I remember the last one was the one I picked. Something about how "how often a flight crew cross-checks verbally is partly dependent on the availability of other forms of cross-checking."

yea, mine was something like that. only one that i thought fit perfectly
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 06:47:35 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:47:42 PM
How often they use verbal depends on whether other means available.

anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications


Primary means of communication for modern flight crew is verbal? I think?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:47:59 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications

I remember the last one was the one I picked. Something about how "how often a flight crew cross-checks verbally is partly dependent on the availability of other forms of cross-checking."

Yes, thats close... I think it said "depends on other means of cross-checking" and was E.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: zhyue on June 12, 2006, 06:48:45 PM
What are the other choices? I don't remember this one exactly.

Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:48:55 PM
anyone come up with the ans to this one: the pilots and flight crew cross-check/ verbal communications

I remember the last one was the one I picked. Something about how "how often a flight crew cross-checks verbally is partly dependent on the availability of other forms of cross-checking."

Yes, thats close... I think it said "depends on other means of cross-checking" and was E.

yea, it definitly said something like that and was at the bottom
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 06:49:10 PM
Also, the one about the distribution of herbal something or other to increase profits?

i remember that, not the ans

This was a principle question. I think the answer was E that if authorities dont think something will be effective it shouldn't be something or other to increase profits.

Agreed on E on the herbal one.  The answer I picked tied authorities' opinions with PROFITS, which was the key.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:49:26 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one

Yeah that was it.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Futballer on June 12, 2006, 06:49:48 PM
I agree with pigaroo.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 06:50:31 PM
Shoot, Im pretty sure I didnt pick E for the flight communication one. Oh well.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 06:51:46 PM
What about the one with the Birds/Flies/Grass/Cows lol.

predators are kept away by the cows

Seconded.

Thirded

Fourthed.

And for the somber one, I agree with the consensus; somber can still be good.  It sucks that question #1 actually made me stop and have to think though.  Trickier than average, for whatever reason. 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:52:10 PM
what were the other answer choices on the somber writer question?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:54:08 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one

This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:54:48 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one

This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?

The two people talking about "Caverton" or something and how he's a good writer, first guy says he's too somber and pessimistic.  Second guy says he's good
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: seriouslydog on June 12, 2006, 06:56:07 PM
I read through all the posts but hopefully someone can clear up my confusion. I had AR, LR, LR break RC LR

Can someone tell me which one was the experimental?

thanks

srsly,

dg

ps Despite practicing in the upper 160s I'm not sure I even broke 160. I choked.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nu07 on June 12, 2006, 06:56:12 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one



This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?

The two people talking about "Caverton" or something and how he's a good writer, first guy says he's too somber and pessimistic.  Second guy says he's good


Wasn't the question about what they agree upon?  Wasn't the answer that the writer is pessimistic?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: alp249 on June 12, 2006, 06:56:45 PM
Okay so I'm somewhat behind the time but can someone help me out? Which LR section was the experimental and how do we know (everyone had diff. questions)?? Thanks!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: 245 on June 12, 2006, 06:57:43 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one



This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?

The two people talking about "Caverton" or something and how he's a good writer, first guy says he's too somber and pessimistic.  Second guy says he's good


Wasn't the question about what they agree upon?  Wasn't the answer that the writer is pessimistic?

I think TCR was that a good writer can be a somber one.  They both agreed that the writer was somber and pessimistic, but person A said that made his writing inferior, whereas person B said that it made his writing great.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 06:58:47 PM
ohh yea...  they disagreed about whether a somber writer could be good.  answer choice D i think...  FOR SURE!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 06:58:56 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one



This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?

The two people talking about "Caverton" or something and how he's a good writer, first guy says he's too somber and pessimistic.  Second guy says he's good


Wasn't the question about what they agree upon?  Wasn't the answer that the writer is pessimistic?

I think TCR was that a good writer can be a somber one.  They both agreed that the writer was somber and pessimistic, but person A said that made his writing inferior, whereas person B said that it made his writing great.

tru dat
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 06:59:27 PM
I think TCR was that a good writer can be a somber one.  They both agreed that the writer was somber and pessimistic, but person A said that made his writing inferior, whereas person B said that it made his writing great.

do you remember any of the other answer choices?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 06:59:44 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one



This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?

The two people talking about "Caverton" or something and how he's a good writer, first guy says he's too somber and pessimistic.  Second guy says he's good


Wasn't the question about what they agree upon?  Wasn't the answer that the writer is pessimistic?
I don't think it was an AGREE question, I think it was a DISAGREE question.

First guy: this artist sucks because he is so pessimistic.

Second guy: you suck. He's a great artist, and his work is also ... witty and wry or something, (qualities not necessarily un-pessimistic.)

I'm pretty sure the right answer was that they disagree over whether pessimistic art can be great/pessimistic art uniformly sucks.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: futurelawprof on June 12, 2006, 07:03:35 PM
Nixon, he couldn't remember the ones you mentioned, but I remember from my December test that the experimental LR (I had 3) had a question with truth and beauty in art, so I would probably chalk that one out as being the experimental.
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Virgin post here  :).

Anyway, I had two LR sections, so both were real and I had the truth and beauty in art question too - it was a toughie.  So I guess they liked the results from December.

My first LR section was tough and had 26 questions, but I am drawing a blank on the specifics.  I do remember guessing on the 3rd question from the end - it was parallel reasoning and I skipped it and guessed the answer because of time.  I had the big animal qeuestion also.  Anyway it does look like section 2 was experimental.  I had LR LG LG LR RC.  That science passage on RC was a real bear to end on too.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 07:04:39 PM
Can anybody confirm that the "role of the statment" question had a 'conclusion' answer?  I can't remember what the original statement said.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 07:05:36 PM
Lets hear some agreement or disagreement on the somber writer point at issue question- so far the answer is they diagree about whether a writer who writes somber stuff can be a good one



This one is coming back to me... can anybody elaborate?

The two people talking about "Caverton" or something and how he's a good writer, first guy says he's too somber and pessimistic.  Second guy says he's good


Wasn't the question about what they agree upon?  Wasn't the answer that the writer is pessimistic?

Nope. The second guys admits he's pessimistic but he also has many other qualities too. Therefore he can still be a good writer.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: 245 on June 12, 2006, 07:09:07 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

Did we come to consensus about this question?  I chose the answer about finding advanced tools among ruins of prehistoric people who did NOT stand upright. 

Was it a weaken or strength question?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: alp249 on June 12, 2006, 07:10:21 PM
Does anyone remember an LR with kids and nightlights causing anxiety or was that exp?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Saja on June 12, 2006, 07:11:08 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

Did we come to consensus about this question?  I chose the answer about finding advanced tools among ruins of prehistoric people who did NOT stand upright. 

Was it a weaken or strength question?

Mike, I put what you put about.  However, I think the answer didn't say advanced "tools", but advanced "weapons," which threw me off, but I put it anyway.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 12, 2006, 07:11:08 PM
I am sure you are all checking the master list of LR (you should be if youre not) but I do not remember these questions AT ALL, is it possible they were experimental?

from the master list:

7.  Family members not doing things that would harm people they love
Answer: Assume some moral obligations overrule others

19. Humans not being able to evolve with dinosaurs/climate zone
Answer: If they lived in different climate zones

21. Whether computers will replace TVs
Answer: Most people who have computers already have TVs
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 07:11:38 PM
28 more to go...  lets keep the wheels a turnin'
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:11:56 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

Did we come to consensus about this question?  I chose the answer about finding advanced tools among ruins of prehistoric people who did NOT stand upright. 

Was it a weaken or strength question?

weaken.  seems like people are saying that the dexterity one was right.  I didn't even know what dexterity meant in that context

alp, experimental.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 07:12:15 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

Did we come to consensus about this question?  I chose the answer about finding advanced tools among ruins of prehistoric people who did NOT stand upright. 

Was it a weaken or strength question?

aaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 07:12:59 PM
Does anyone remember an LR with kids and nightlights causing anxiety or was that exp?

OK, is it possible that that there were TWO different LR expereimentals? Or does that not happen? Because I had 3 LR and I dont remember this one at all and there's a few other I dont remember too.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 07:13:17 PM
strivergirl , I went with you.  agree about the dexterity, and the hunting tools seemed outside of the scope?

Did we come to consensus about this question?  I chose the answer about finding advanced tools among ruins of prehistoric people who did NOT stand upright. 

Was it a weaken or strength question?


I think the consensus is 50% dexterity.... and 50% advanced fighting tools ---> i chose and still side with the former; see Bork's explaination on page 9-10ish (?) of this thread.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:13:40 PM
I am sure you are all checking the master list of LR (you should be if youre not) but I do not remember these questions AT ALL, is it possible they were experimental?

from the master list:

7.  Family members not doing things that would harm people they love
Answer: Assume some moral obligations overrule others

19. Humans not being able to evolve with dinosaurs/climate zone
Answer: If they lived in different climate zones

21. Whether computers will replace TVs
Answer: Most people who have computers already have TVs

19 and 21 were experimental.  there must have been two experimental LRs
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Qingu on June 12, 2006, 07:14:08 PM
Does anyone remember an LR with kids and nightlights causing anxiety or was that exp?

OK, is it possible that that there were TWO different LR expereimentals? Or does that not happen? Because I had 3 LR and I dont remember this one at all and there's a few other I dont remember too.
Yeah. I also had 3 LRs and I don't recognize some of these questions. WTF.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 07:14:38 PM
I am sure you are all checking the master list of LR (you should be if youre not) but I do not remember these questions AT ALL, is it possible they were experimental?

from the master list:

7.  Family members not doing things that would harm people they love
Answer: Assume some moral obligations overrule others

19. Humans not being able to evolve with dinosaurs/climate zone
Answer: If they lived in different climate zones

21. Whether computers will replace TVs
Answer: Most people who have computers already have TVs

Raoul and others, several people were not sure whether or not some of the questions were experimental, so I defer to your judgment if you only had 2 LR sections.  However, if you had 3 then you're as confused as the rest of us.  But I only put down the questions that 3 or more people commented on and felt strongly about... meaning that they were regular not experimental.  But if more of you feel this way, that only had 2 LR sections instead of 3 (one obviously being the experimental) I can revise the master list accordingly.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Futballer on June 12, 2006, 07:14:47 PM
I don't remember 19 and 21.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:14:59 PM
I think the consensus is 50% dexterity.... and 50% advanced fighting tools ---> i chose and still side with the former; see Bork's explaination on page 9-10ish (?) of this thread.

wait, nobody thinks that the answer is sophisticated tools found with people who didn't stand upright?  No, probably not, the more I type this, the more I realize how wrong it is
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: alp249 on June 12, 2006, 07:15:19 PM
Ques. 7 and 21 are def. experimental. I had one about humans and prehistoric animals, ie mastadons and the like, becoming extinct b/c of climate zones but it didnt say dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: strivergirl on June 12, 2006, 07:18:28 PM
those are def. all experimental.  my experimental was games.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 07:18:54 PM
thanks guys, the master has been updated.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
Those are experimental, My exp section was games as well.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 07:21:34 PM
is mary and her classmates experimental?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 07:21:41 PM
Those are experimental, My exp section was games as well.

me too. rocked it too. hopefully ruined a future curve
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 07:22:40 PM
We need FRESh Questions!!! I think im out of steam...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Jmart603 on June 12, 2006, 07:23:05 PM
is mary and her classmates experimental?
no
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 07:23:10 PM
is mary and her classmates experimental?

No, Mary is real.  And she's SPECTACULAR.

I had A on that one.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:24:18 PM
is mary and her classmates experimental?

No, Mary is real.  And she's SPECTACULAR.

I had A on that one.

mary?  I thought it was molly?  was this about the computer programmers and the gardeners?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Bork on June 12, 2006, 07:25:35 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Saja on June 12, 2006, 07:26:17 PM
is mary and her classmates experimental?

No, Mary is real.  And she's SPECTACULAR.

I had A on that one.

mary?  I thought it was molly?  was this about the computer programmers and the gardeners?

Yes, it was about computer programmers, and then you had to tie it to Mary and her patient gardening classmates, or something.  I can't remember what I put.:P  They were all similar sounding.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 07:26:58 PM
Ques. 7 and 21 are def. experimental. I had one about humans and prehistoric animals, ie mastadons and the like, becoming extinct b/c of climate zones but it didnt say dinosaurs.


I had 3 LR sections and I have never seen #7. before...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 12, 2006, 07:27:11 PM
Does anyone remember the video game LR question, I've seen an answer of Younger kids, but if I remember correctly there really was a better one.  And ir emember being down to two of them, and not picking the younger one.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:27:56 PM
Does anyone remember the video game LR question, I've seen an answer of Younger kids, but if I remember correctly there really was a better one.  And ir emember being down to two of them, and not picking the younger one.

I think I put B or C?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 07:28:41 PM
someone talk to me about what they put for mary and computer programming... I need answers.   
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 07:29:07 PM
is mary and her classmates experimental?

No, Mary is real.  And she's SPECTACULAR.

I had A on that one.

I put A too, even though it was the most simple, it was the only one that didnt fudge up the stimulus.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 07:29:20 PM
Does anyone remember the video game LR question, I've seen an answer of Younger kids, but if I remember correctly there really was a better one.  And ir emember being down to two of them, and not picking the younger one.

I can't remember but I think I chose the one about kids playing non-violent video games.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jjk27 on June 12, 2006, 07:30:12 PM
For those of you who took the June 12th LSAT, the breakdown was as follows:

   1  2  3  4  5 
Form 1 LG X LR RC LR
Form 2 LR X LG LR RC

Section 2 was the experimental section for everyone.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: jjk27 on June 12, 2006, 07:32:27 PM
Nobody probably remembers, but for the 26 question LR, are any of the questions we are discussing the last five questions of that section?  does anyone remember any of the last five questions on that section?  thanks!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: paigeroo on June 12, 2006, 07:33:34 PM
For those of you who took the June 12th LSAT, the breakdown was as follows:

   1  2  3  4  5 
Form 1 LG X LR RC LR
Form 2 LR X LG LR RC

Section 2 was the experimental section for everyone.



OH SNAP how'd you know that..?  That's priceless information if it's true!
Title: For the Doctor/human v. object rights question...
Post by: ctiscold on June 12, 2006, 07:37:18 PM
the master list says the correct answer is something about always respecting basic human rights...is this the same answer as respecting rights regardless of consequences (i think it was b)?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:45:10 PM
What did everyone determine was the answer to that annoying one about how humans do goal-oriented things non-consciously?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Groundhog on June 12, 2006, 07:49:18 PM
Respecting basic human rights was not the same one as the consequences one, it was something very simple.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Cantillon on June 12, 2006, 07:52:28 PM
What did everyone determine was the answer to that annoying one about how humans do goal-oriented things non-consciously?

Was it an assumption question?

I put goal-oriented things require intelligence because that means that humans can do intelligent things unconsciously and thus animals showing intelligence don't necessarily show consciousness.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: GreyStreet on June 12, 2006, 07:56:01 PM
Respecting basic human rights was not the same one as the consequences one, it was something very simple.

can you remeber the full answer?  was this the one about objects vs. humans?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: nixon plays checkers on June 12, 2006, 07:58:38 PM
Respecting basic human rights was not the same one as the consequences one, it was something very simple.

can you remeber the full answer?  was this the one about objects vs. humans?

I think the answer was "Basic rights should not be violated"
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Groundhog on June 12, 2006, 08:00:20 PM
It was about how a Doctor needs to fulfill his patients' best interests, but that everyone has a right to know about their medical conditions. It said then something about how knowing it was a basic right, so doctors need to tell their patients. The question was missing assumption, and I believe the answer was "Basic rights should not be violated."
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Harper on June 12, 2006, 08:04:42 PM
Agreed, dude.  I'm about to post something conspicuous on the main thread so people won't keep asking the same inane questions about the experimental. 
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: should be packing on June 12, 2006, 08:05:08 PM
Respecting basic human rights was not the same one as the consequences one, it was something very simple.

can you remeber the full answer?  was this the one about objects vs. humans?

I think the answer was "Basic rights should not be violated"

agreed
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: polkadot on June 12, 2006, 08:06:20 PM
What did everyone determine was the answer to that annoying one about how humans do goal-oriented things non-consciously?

Was it an assumption question?

I put goal-oriented things require intelligence because that means that humans can do intelligent things unconsciously and thus animals showing intelligence don't necessarily show consciousness.

I remember this also and after a TON of thought I chose the same answer you did--very confusing though.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Groundhog on June 12, 2006, 08:07:49 PM
Agreed re: consciousness.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: FossilJ on June 12, 2006, 08:09:16 PM
For those of you who took the June 12th LSAT, the breakdown was as follows:

   1  2  3  4  5 
Form 1 LG X LR RC LR
Form 2 LR X LG LR RC

Section 2 was the experimental section for everyone.



That's awesome.  That means my "BLADDER IS FULL NEED TO PEE NOW" mistakes won't matter.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Groundhog on June 12, 2006, 08:11:18 PM
Yeah, I thought my experimental (LG) was difficult and then had to follow it with the real deal. I was kinda demoralized, though...
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 08:11:46 PM
Kaplan has just released this:

Common Test Forms
Jun 12th 2006 10:05pm
Section 1    Section 2    Section 3    Section 4    Section 5
LG    LR    LR    RC    LR
LR    LR    LG    LR    RC
LR    LG    LG    LR    RC
LG    LG    LR    RC    LR
LG    RC    LR    RC    LR
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 08:12:26 PM
...and

The June Unscored Section was…
Jun 12th 2006 10:00pm

The unscored section was #2.

Kaplan is able to report the unscored section of today’s exam based on post-exam interviews with thousands of students.


Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: polkadot on June 12, 2006, 09:35:02 PM
Does anyone know when the Kaplan podcast will come out for this one?
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Rockie on June 12, 2006, 09:37:10 PM
Does anyone know when the Kaplan podcast will come out for this one?

Soon, its up for Kaplan survey takers. 15 minutes, not much we dont already know though.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: puddlewonderful on June 12, 2006, 09:37:30 PM
hmm, I posted this on the other post-mortem thread in this board regarding the object vs. human thing, and I'm pretty sure I'm wrong (sigh), but I just want to see why.

 Was it an assumption question? I thought it was- and picked 'objects don't have rights like humans have rights' or something. The last sentence stated that 'in doing so, we treat humans like objects' or something like that, which I thought was the conclusion. Also, I know it's nitpicky, but the 'Basic' in 'basic human right' threw me off in the majority vote for correct answer. I don't recall seeing the word in the paragraph, but then again, I was pretty panicked in both the LR's.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: denk on June 12, 2006, 11:26:06 PM
Re: the fragmented forest.

I disgreed with "Some animals or plants would be in danger of extinction if no intervention."

I chose the less ambitious conclusion: "Some animals or plants would not survive if no intervention."  Did anyone else choose this?

I wasn't convinced that the chain of logic was tight enough to make the "extinction" argument.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Groundhog on June 12, 2006, 11:30:46 PM
Oh, that was my answer as well.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on June 13, 2006, 12:00:31 AM
sorry if this has been beaten to death but I didn't feel like reading 17-23 on here (I was online for the firsts 9 pages of the thread then went drinking).

A question I remember, might be experimental:  something about dinausaurs blood being all the same temperature an that is odd for cold blooded animals so it must be a mamal.

Also, with the upright walking, I thought that the stem delt with advanced tools, and one of the answer choices people have been sayins is correct delt with simple tools.  I could have remembered wrong, but I thought that was my logic in picking dexterity. 

Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: LizPendens™ on June 13, 2006, 12:24:20 AM
For those of you who took the June 12th LSAT, the breakdown was as follows:

   1  2  3  4  5 
Form 1 LG X LR RC LR
Form 2 LR X LG LR RC

Section 2 was the experimental section for everyone.



OH SNAP how'd you know that..?  That's priceless information if it's true!

maybe he applied the everlasting LSAC section layout formula (at least it seems that it lasted again for another test)

http://www.lsatdiscussion.com/index.php/topic,41.msg57.html#msg57
OR
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,64906.msg1442166.html#msg1442166

to the fact that a lot of people have reported having section layouts like:

LG  RC   LR   RC   LR
LG  LG   LR   RC   LR
LR  LG   LG   LR   RC
LG  LR   LR   RC   LR
LR  LR   LG   LR   RC

Can it now be settled and agreed that section #2 was THE EXPERIMENTAL??

You can also find the formula posted here:
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,64889.0.html

and in a bunch of other threads..here and there..    Gosh!! how many times and places do I need to post this info??  It's only been in numerous threads that have cumulatively had thousands of hits and reads.

Sometimes it seems like discussion forums have about a 10 second memory, similar to a goldfish.




Or he just cut and pasted it from the TestMasters website. ;) (and to think I was being so coy with the information...)
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: peteyjones13 on June 19, 2006, 09:47:17 PM
I had LG RC LR RC LR.

My second RC was the experimental - the only would SQUIDS or whatever the hell that was. During the break I was really bummed about the RC since it was tough, but then the fourth section came along, soon afterwards I found out it was the non-experimental RC, and I was a happy camper :) The games were incredibly easy...I found one LR moderately difficult (the one with beauty and art) and the other LR fairly straightforward (except for the fact that I had to skip question 24 - a parallel reasoning question).

Otherwise, I'm glad it's over.

Hey i dont know who to ask this, i dont know if im posting or just replying to someone, but I'm wondering about the RC section, with the last passage on science, i didnt have time to do it, but guess all C's.  Does anyone know/remember if any/alot of those answers were C.  Hey if im just replying to you, do you mind posting my message in the general post for everyone to see and potentially reply? Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: Einstein on September 25, 2006, 09:19:34 AM
For the Sept 30 LSAT takers.. remember the post mortem theads after the exam

so bizump!
Title: Re: Let the June 06 Post Mortem Begin
Post by: cassise on October 09, 2006, 09:28:03 PM
I love how the next serves as an archive of the big moments in my life.