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Title: So how did we do?
Post by: Billy Mays here FOREVER! on October 04, 2008, 10:59:16 AM
I think i did pretty decent, depending on whihc LR was experimental. I did have to guess on the last 4 LG, but I don't see how i got lower than my 167. My guess..169
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: LSATstruggle on October 04, 2008, 11:07:47 AM
It depends on the thrid game. Did GH or ST have to be the last two spots? I eraced the whole game and did it again and got mostly the same answers i believe. And had to guess on 3 of the questions on the last because i had no time. DAMN me for not reading the rules the first time.

The rest of the test i finished pretty easily.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: finallydonewithlsats on October 04, 2008, 11:18:24 AM
so was the GH/ST LG section experimental? I frickin hope not
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: LSATstruggle on October 04, 2008, 11:21:16 AM
so was the GH/ST LG section experimental? I frickin hope not

No it was the real
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: catcatcatcatcat on October 04, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
I had an experimental RC section...I was pretty sure it was experimental given that it asked a couple weirdly worded questions I hadn't seen before.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 11:27:21 AM
hm i think i did super except for that 2nd logic games section.  i did not finish that last game- totally guessed on 2, educated guesses on 2 others. maybe 5 wrong total in that section.  maybe lsac will break the trend and make that 2nd one the experimental.

what do y'all think the curve will be like?  170 for -10?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: woopwoop on October 04, 2008, 11:28:06 AM
the first and third sections on my test were RC. the first included a dual passage on rules of property transference and Native American land. The second included a dual passage on the spread of a purple weed with harmful effects on biodiversity. Which section is the experimental?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Nikoa21 on October 04, 2008, 11:28:16 AM
did anyone else only have 100 questions rather than 101?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: valjean on October 04, 2008, 11:29:43 AM
the first and third sections on my test were RC. the first included a dual passage on rules of property transference and Native American land. The second included a dual passage on the spread of a purple weed with harmful effects on biodiversity. Which section is the experimental?

Purple weed (and Chinese author, trade secret injunctions, etc.) was the scored section.

I had 100 questions.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Aendain on October 04, 2008, 11:31:11 AM
I had 100 questions.

1: LR 25
2: RC 27
3: LR 25
4: LR 25
5: LG 23

No one yet has mentioned having 3 LRs, and I thought there were only 2 different possibilities, what's the deal?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Chloe123 on October 04, 2008, 11:32:14 AM
The tulip RC was real. The trains, lawyers at a firm, messages LG was real.

Which LR was experimental?

I had: 1 LR, 2 RC, 3 LR, 4 LR, and 5 LG.

I think the questions on LR went 25, 26, 25. Any guesses which LR, 1 or 3, was experimental?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Aendain on October 04, 2008, 11:36:02 AM
#3 LR had a lot of questions that seemed out of the norm to me, but I would prefer if #1 were the experimental just because I was more alert after section 1
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Chloe123 on October 04, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
I'm hoping 1 is the experimental :) I had time issues with RC, so I was all out of sorts for the 3rd section.

Edit: er, I mean I hope 3 is experimental. God, I hate the LSAT.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: arslonga on October 04, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
I came out of today's test with a good feeling overall. Had three LR, 1RC, and 1LG. Games were last, but I had a lot of momentum going into the section. Had to guess on a few for RC, but thought that overall it was strong. Was surprised at my performance on games. Thought it gave me the least amount of trouble.

Have we figured which LR's were real?

Not sure what my score range could be just yet...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: matthewjaay on October 04, 2008, 11:39:02 AM
I thought both LRs and both my RCs (the experimental, with the double passage on the shipping contract case, moreso than the scored) were straightforward and pretty easy.

I messed up and panicked a bit on LG, didn't leave enough time for the bus game. But I did well enough on the other 3 to make up for that.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 11:39:49 AM
wait is the lg with the trains, lawyer at the firm, etc. the 1st or 2nd for those of us who had an lg experimental?  assuming 2nd? 
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: alethea on October 04, 2008, 11:50:35 AM
Which LR was experimental?  I had LR, RC, LR, LR, LG.  I am hoping it was the third, as I ran out of time. 

If anyone has info on this or remembers something that might help, please message me!

Did anyone else have trouble with RC?  I am used to getting all correct on that section, but I had questions about several, and was hoping it was experimental (but it wasn't!)
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: amise on October 04, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
I also had a lot of trouble with my reading comp, which is frustrating because RC is usually one of my best sections. I had LG (exp), LR, RC, LG, LR. By reading is was so mentally fatigued that I felt like I was not thinking clearly and was almost guessing.

Hopefully it didn't turn out too terribly  :-\
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: theD on October 04, 2008, 11:58:40 AM
I had 3LR, I hope the second one was experimental
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: eslite119 on October 04, 2008, 11:59:43 AM
Alethea, I feel the same way as you do.  I had LG, LR, RC, LG, and LR.  First LG appeared to be experimental as I ran into a question that I've never seen before.  LRs weren't too bad, but I had to guess on three questions for the second LR section.  LG that counted wasn't bad either, but I guessed on two and I think I could've prevented myself from such situation.  RC on the other was a trouble for me.  First two passages were okay (comparative passage was about purple weed), third took most of my time and led me to guess most for fourth.  I'm thinking about cancelling.

BTW both of my LRs had 25 questions each.  Total number of questions on the test was 100 since both of my LG had 23 questions and RC was 27.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:00:08 PM
I had the experimental LR.

Oh man... I always felt pressed for time during that test.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: jeg21 on October 04, 2008, 12:01:52 PM
do we know when we can find out officially which section was experimental?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Chloe123 on October 04, 2008, 12:03:00 PM
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BTW both of my LRs had 25 questions each.  Total number of questions on the test was 100 since both of my LG had 23 questions and RC was 27.

Thank you! I had one LR that was 26 questions, I believe. So I guess that must be the experimental (it was my third section).
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: alethea on October 04, 2008, 12:06:39 PM
Shoot.  I should have noted the amount of questions on each section.  :P 

If anyone remembers anything about what was on either the Non-Exp. or the Exp. LR section PLEASE message me.  Thanks!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:10:00 PM
The question counting method doesn't work. There have been tests with as few questions as 100 and as many as 102 (before exclusion of some questions).

It was either 1 or 3.

How does everyone feel about their performance though?

I don't feel particularily good, but I don't feel horrible either.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
i am guessing -5 (at least) on that lg, which SUCKS.  i felt good about the rest though, so hopefully it will compensate.

seems like a lot of ppl had trouble w/games, so hopefully there is a fair curve.  i saw someone put recently though that the curve is determined before the test is administered.  true??
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: amise on October 04, 2008, 12:13:36 PM
Anyone feel like your nerves were a factor? I think my nerves were a detriment during the first half of the test.

On the other hand, I found the LG sections to be fairly easy and finished in plenty of time which was quite a relief.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: catcatcatcatcat on October 04, 2008, 12:22:42 PM
Didn't feel like nerves were a factor...I did have some trouble concentrating on the LR sections...could have been the dude behind me tapping his pencil the whole time...ugh.

But, yeah...honestly, easy LG games. Nothing overly tricky and one of them, I forget which now, was downright EASY.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Jessica30 on October 04, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
Hey does anyone remember what the second game was on the scored section?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:23:30 PM
i am guessing -5 (at least) on that lg, which SUCKS.  i felt good about the rest though, so hopefully it will compensate.

seems like a lot of ppl had trouble w/games, so hopefully there is a fair curve.  i saw someone put recently though that the curve is determined before the test is administered.  true??

Yes true.

I didn't find the games too difficult.

That night/day crew game was weird though. The questions seemed to rely almost entirely on pure sequencing. And the releveant distinction between night/day was only important to 1 question.

I hope I'm not wrong. lol
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 12:24:50 PM
no you are not wrong- that was only imp. for 1 question.  i had a hard time w/the buses  ???
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:25:16 PM
Hey does anyone remember what the second game was on the scored section?

I think it was some easyish grouping game.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:26:11 PM
no you are not wrong- that was only imp. for 1 question.  i had a hard time w/the buses  ???

That was the last game right?

I can't believe I don't remember half of what happened just an hour ago. It's like it's entirely supressed.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: blueskies6 on October 04, 2008, 12:28:15 PM
I tend to blackout LSAT problems after I do them.  It works out better that way.


All I remember is the experimental dinos, some purple flowers, and the bubble/tulips.  And that the LR sounded like the same ol *&^%
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Chloe123 on October 04, 2008, 12:28:39 PM
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I can't believe I don't remember half of what happened just an hour ago. It's like it's entirely supressed.

Me too. I can only remember tulips and Chinese story telling for two of the RC. Drawing a complete blank on the other ones.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 12:31:58 PM
the one about intellectual property & changing employers was the law one...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:33:07 PM
the one about intellectual property & changing employers was the law one...

Yeah, that was the first passage with the fewest questions.

Comparative reading was the weed/wetlands.

I don't remember a damn thing about LR, and I'll remember even less after tonight.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: pe402 on October 04, 2008, 12:34:07 PM
What was the key to the Bus game? I had a lot of trouble with it....
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: booyakasha45 on October 04, 2008, 12:34:29 PM
i thought the games were really easy, which makes me worry that I missed some huge inference lol
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:36:08 PM
What was the key to the Bus game? I had a lot of trouble with it....

It was an advanced linear game. I probably had the most trouble with this one also (comparatively speaking).
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: eslite119 on October 04, 2008, 12:36:18 PM
I think the game about buses was the toughest one of all.  The conditional reasoning about who doesn't get off until someone does was pretty tricky.  The game about day and night shift was generally linear and only one question dealt with the rule about night shift.

I thought the Chinese story talk (talk-story or whatever) was pretty difficult and took most of my time.  The final passage was about tulips/bubble.  Can someone PM about general pattern of answers for that final passage (as I said before, I had to guess the last four questions as I ran out of time)?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: amise on October 04, 2008, 12:37:23 PM
I was also not a fan of the chinese story passage/questions.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 12:39:41 PM
I didn't think test day would feel different that PTs, but it really did.

I had a lot of multiple answers in all sections (multiple successive Bs, Es, etc)
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: violaboy on October 04, 2008, 12:47:53 PM
I felt like everything went quite well today.  I took the June test and that was a nightmare for me, but today was a great improvement off of that.  I walked out feeling really happy and relieved as opposed to scared in June.  The games felt incredibly easy, and everything else felt really manageable.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Legally Brown "Sugah" on October 04, 2008, 12:48:46 PM
So....I feel like I'll probably be retaking in December.  I'm sure I didn't do as well as I had hoped but I refuse to cancel....somehow I want to see how bad I did lol

All jokes aside, my timing was wayyy off, found myself guessing at the end of most sections.

I had two RC sections, the first was EASY...knew right away it was experimental.  The real one was detrimental to my health...the Chinese Oral Story one set me up for failure.  I barely read the tulip passage.

I usually miss little to none on both games and RC...these were easily two of the worst sections this time around. I breezed through the first two games, got stumped on the day/night shift game, skipped it and moved on to the one about the van and the stops and found that it was equally hard.  I can't believe that I probably did better on LR since I'm used to missing a lot of these and making up for it with the other two sections.  Who knows where my score is going to be.  Good Lord....I need a drink!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: alethea on October 04, 2008, 12:50:00 PM
I wish I had taken the June test.  I woke up last Sunday and went through my whole test day routine, sat down and took the June test as prep, and scored a 180.  I am praying that I ended up in the mid-170s on this one.  Blech.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Captain Beefaroni on October 04, 2008, 12:55:28 PM
I had 3 LR sections...figured the first was experimental because it didn't have a parallel logic question in it.  I hope the experimental was #1...I was a little nervous and had trouble concentrating on the first five questions or so until I started to calm down.

Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: LessThanLiz on October 04, 2008, 12:58:24 PM
I feel pretty good about all sections except LG, which always leaves me with this lukewarm feeling so that's nothing new. We'll see though. I definitely felt more prepared and better about the test afterwards than the girls I drove there with.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Pretentious Undergrad on October 04, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!

Me too please... if you remember the last 3 CRs
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:10:10 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!

Me too please... if you remember the last 3 CRs

If i recall correctly I answered mostly Ds and Es.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Pretentious Undergrad on October 04, 2008, 01:14:26 PM
Thats what they are saying at TLS too. Thanks.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 04, 2008, 01:15:16 PM
So glad to hear it Violaboy!

I was feeling pretty good heading into the break, and I had the two RC's. Well I thought one was particularly difficult and nuanced and some jackass was loudly talking to this guy trying to figure out which RC was the non-experimental section and so I discovered right at the break that the RC I thought was likely to be experimental was in fact not. I don't think I did terribly on that section, I hope my instincts took over because I thought a lot of those questions were very nuanced.

That said, I really did not do well unfortunately. I don't know what happened but about halfway through the 3rd game, I realized that I didn't understand all the inferences since I was getting into the questions and had about 3 choices which seemed plausible and the amount of time it would take to figure it out wasn't enough. I didn't have a good enough set up and I tried to strengthen it but I became confused/panicky. I entered the 4th game with about 6.5 minutes left and just panicked and for some reason I couldn't understand the bus game set up. I realized now a better way to set it up (I think) but I found the whole premise tricky (ie one person getting off, but do they all have to?) and I should have just chilled out and re-read the stimulus and got a better set up and answered as many questions as I could but I didn't. It's so weird because that has genuinely never happened to me before but I guess with the actual time pressure, it got to me. Oh well.

By the time I was done that section I was literally on the verge of tears because of bombing the last game and a half and was debating on the first question of my last LR section whether to cancel or not but I decided I'm not writing this thing again unless it's over a year away. So I just f*ck it, and literally ripped through that section. I've never done an LR section so quickly. I had about 12 minutes left and there were only 3 or maybe 4 questions I was unsure of that I went over. I took a bathroom break and browsed through the section again but who knows. I'm just over it.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:18:09 PM
So glad to hear it Violaboy!

I was feeling pretty good heading into the break, and I had the two RC's. Well I thought one was particularly difficult and nuanced and some jackass was loudly talking to this guy trying to figure out which RC was the non-experimental section and so I discovered right at the break that the RC I thought was likely to be experimental was in fact not. I don't think I did terribly on that section, I hope my instincts took over because I thought a lot of those questions were very nuanced.

That said, I really did not do well unfortunately. I don't know what happened but about halfway through the 3rd game, I realized that I didn't understand all the inferences since I was getting into the questions and had about 3 choices which seemed plausible and the amount of time it would take to figure it out wasn't enough. I didn't have a good enough set up and I tried to strengthen it but I became confused/panicky. I entered the 4th game with about 6.5 minutes left and just panicked and for some reason I couldn't understand the bus game set up. I realized now a better way to set it up (I think) but I found the whole premise tricky (ie one person getting off, but do they all have to?) and I should have just chilled out and re-read the stimulus and got a better set up and answered as many questions as I could but I didn't. It's so weird because that has genuinely never happened to me before but I guess with the actual time pressure, it got to me. Oh well.

By the time I was done that section I was literally on the verge of tears because of bombing the last game and a half and was debating on the first question of my last LR section whether to cancel or not but I decided I'm not writing this thing again unless it's over a year away. So I just f*ck it, and literally ripped through that section. I've never done an LR section so quickly. I had about 12 minutes left and there were only 3 or maybe 4 questions I was unsure of that I went over. I took a bathroom break and browsed through the section again but who knows. I'm just over it.

Ouch meggo.. are you going to cancel or wait it out?

How bad could it have been, really? I struggled a bit with the last game and found myself second guessing my answers in LR a bit much. During the heat of the test it sometimes felt all new to me and I didn't have the same clarity of mind.

I'm sure you didn't do too badly.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: violaboy on October 04, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
I'm sure you'll be just fine Meggo!  If things don't go as well, you could transfer schools later or just retake next year.  I've resigned myself to both of those options in case things don't go very well with this test.  Sigh, we'll see what happens in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: flip side on October 04, 2008, 01:19:04 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!

Me too please... if you remember the last 3 CRs

If i recall correctly I answered mostly Ds and Es.

awesome!!!  i had 2 d's somewhere, then also guessed d for the last 2 (thanks to ps bible)...  maybe at least a few are right & i can redeem some pts.

meggo, i felt the same way about the last 2 games. HORRIBLE.  all i can say is i was kind of thankful that it was my last section, because i would've been distracted if i had to do anything but the stupid writing sample.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: booyakasha45 on October 04, 2008, 01:19:34 PM
Thales, I also remember there being a lot of Ds and Es, so I think that's good. I was kind of suspicious that I had messed up.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: violaboy on October 04, 2008, 01:21:14 PM
Also had Ds and Es at the end.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:21:47 PM
Thales, I also remember there being a lot of Ds and Es, so I think that's good. I was kind of suspicious that I had messed up.

In LG I found the answers followed a really odd trend. From being many As through Cs in the first half to being mainly Ds and Es for the second.

Actually, there were similarily odd trends all throughout the test... I didn't let it bother me during the test, but I'm hoping others have noticed this too.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 01:22:39 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!

Me too please... if you remember the last 3 CRs

If i recall correctly I answered mostly Ds and Es.

Please tell me you selected E for the last one - I randomly guessed E because I ran out of time.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:23:35 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!

Me too please... if you remember the last 3 CRs

If i recall correctly I answered mostly Ds and Es.

Please tell me you selected E for the last one - I randomly guessed E because I ran out of time.

lol, I think I did.

But I guessed a couple on the last game.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 04, 2008, 01:26:23 PM
^
Hope so because I just had to guess on the last 3 or 4 questions and I put all D's!  :D

I'm honestly not that bothered about it. Last time, I didn't bomb any section and did poorly so who knows. Maybe the inverse will be true this time. I did the best I could do, I couldn't have prepped for that, and that's the way life goes. I've got a couple of options to weigh when I get the results, and regardless, I'm also applying to some other programs so I'm not crying about it now. I think it bizarrely gave me super clarity for my last section because I was just so pissed off that I was super focused. Normally when I have LR I start reading and realize I'm not comprehending and then I have to go back and re-read. Maybe I did terrible in the last LR section and just thought I did good. Who knows. Thanks for all the support and well wishes though guys!

Thales - I also noticed that sort of trend. For one of the LR sections (I think) I had a lot of A's and B's at the beginning
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 01:27:16 PM
anybody know the actual answer scheme to the bus problem (abcde)? asking bc i guessed at the last few, and also had multiple answers in a row.  pm me if so!!!

Me too please... if you remember the last 3 CRs

If i recall correctly I answered mostly Ds and Es.

Please tell me you selected E for the last one - I randomly guessed E because I ran out of time.

lol, I think I did.

But I guessed a couple on the last game.

Excellent - I find that, even with the fact you guessed, comforting for whatever reason.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
EDIT: nevermind
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: ak362 on October 04, 2008, 01:33:13 PM
Yeah, that was a lovely test. </sarcasm>

Did well on the logic games -- this was good, since LG was the thing I choked on last time (EDIT: June). Maybe the last question on the very last LG, I was a little iffy about, but all in all pretty good.

I felt pressured for time on the LR and the RC... I went through the last four questions or so of the RC in a very hurried manner... same with the LRs, except if you make it the last three or so. I guessed two on one of the LRs, read through two quickly and 1 VERY quickly on the second LR.

Meh. It's done. I went for lunch and a drink afterwards. I have three weeks to toss and turn and make a big fuss about it.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:34:07 PM
Thales, I also remember there being a lot of Ds and Es, so I think that's good. I was kind of suspicious that I had messed up.

In LG I found the answers followed a really odd trend. From being many As through Cs in the first half to being mainly Ds and Es for the second.

Actually, there were similarily odd trends all throughout the test... I didn't let it bother me during the test, but I'm hoping others have noticed this too.

^^ bumping this. Comments?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 04, 2008, 01:36:55 PM
At one point (I believe this was an LR section) my answers were A-B-C-D followed by another A-B-C-D or something along those lines. It was definitely a left to right progression.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: genericgrad on October 04, 2008, 01:37:43 PM
I thought this LSAT was a lot more difficult than the June 2007. I had to guess on the last couple of questions on game 4. I think I guessed all D from 20-23. Hopefully I snagged at least one of those. Reading comp was really trick too...does anyone remember a question that went something like...Which of the following passages could be written by same author based on the author's tone in the main passage?? That one killed me.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: violaboy on October 04, 2008, 01:39:24 PM
I don't remember any patterns.  Once I put my answer down, I barely looked back...

I thought this LSAT was a lot more difficult than the June 2007. I had to guess on the last couple of questions on game 4. I think I guessed all D from 20-23. Hopefully I snagged at least one of those. Reading comp was really trick too...does anyone remember a question that went something like...Which of the following passages could be written by same author based on the author's tone in the main passage?? That one killed me.

I do remember that questions.  It was weird, but I just looked at the style of writing to see which seemed the most like the passage.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: blueskies6 on October 04, 2008, 01:40:17 PM
I didn't pay attention to what I bubbled, just that it was done correctly
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: eslite119 on October 04, 2008, 01:43:03 PM
I thought this LSAT was a lot more difficult than the June 2007. I had to guess on the last couple of questions on game 4. I think I guessed all D from 20-23. Hopefully I snagged at least one of those. Reading comp was really trick too...does anyone remember a question that went something like...Which of the following passages could be written by same author based on the author's tone in the main passage?? That one killed me.

Yea, I believe I had that question on the comparative passage about purple weed.  I heard from one other test taker that he had that question (in addition to the aforementioned one) on his second RC section.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 04, 2008, 01:47:05 PM
I thought the purple weed comparative passage was slightly difficult as well but maybe my head was just frazzled since it was my third section. The question about predicting tone/passage was easy I thought. I didn't find this test to be significantly more difficult than June though. LR felt easier than June and RC questions were more deliberate and nuanced but the passages themselves were if anything, a bit more straightforward (ie no groupthink). The games were at par. June exam I had no real difficulty with the games (though still got -5) and others found them difficult so I think LG was probably pretty at par as well.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
I thought this LSAT was a lot more difficult than the June 2007. I had to guess on the last couple of questions on game 4. I think I guessed all D from 20-23. Hopefully I snagged at least one of those. Reading comp was really trick too...does anyone remember a question that went something like...Which of the following passages could be written by same author based on the author's tone in the main passage?? That one killed me.

Yea, I believe I had that question on the comparative passage about purple weed.  I heard from one other test taker that he had that question (in addition to the aforementioned one) on his second RC section.

I thought that question came from the Chinese American author one, did it not?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: eslite119 on October 04, 2008, 02:00:49 PM
I thought this LSAT was a lot more difficult than the June 2007. I had to guess on the last couple of questions on game 4. I think I guessed all D from 20-23. Hopefully I snagged at least one of those. Reading comp was really trick too...does anyone remember a question that went something like...Which of the following passages could be written by same author based on the author's tone in the main passage?? That one killed me.

Yea, I believe I had that question on the comparative passage about purple weed.  I heard from one other test taker that he had that question (in addition to the aforementioned one) on his second RC section.

I thought that question came from the Chinese American author one, did it not?

Maybe.  Come to think of it I think it was the first passage, which was about intellectual properties and injunction.  The question stem was the one mentioned above and the correct answer was about how a company can prevent certain information from leaking to its competitors.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: violaboy on October 04, 2008, 02:02:16 PM
I was happy to see the purple loosestrife comparative passage.  I already knew a lot about that plant, so it was familiar ground.  Comparative passages usually give me a lot of trouble, so that was a pleasant surprise.  But the Chinese American author one was more challenging.  That is probably the passage where I'll miss a few.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 02:02:35 PM
I thought this LSAT was a lot more difficult than the June 2007. I had to guess on the last couple of questions on game 4. I think I guessed all D from 20-23. Hopefully I snagged at least one of those. Reading comp was really trick too...does anyone remember a question that went something like...Which of the following passages could be written by same author based on the author's tone in the main passage?? That one killed me.

Yea, I believe I had that question on the comparative passage about purple weed.  I heard from one other test taker that he had that question (in addition to the aforementioned one) on his second RC section.

I thought that question came from the Chinese American author one, did it not?

Maybe.  Come to think of it I think it was the first passage, which was about intellectual properties and injunction.  The question stem was the one mentioned above and the correct answer was about how a company can prevent certain information from leaking to its competitors.

I remember that one - in the Chinese American one that I'm thinking about the stem was something, maybe a process, that was similar to the way the author combined American idioms along with some sort of Chinese talk story thing, or maybe not and I may have all sections mixed together.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: grover1 on October 04, 2008, 02:06:22 PM
it had to do with linens or cotton? about making something in the same way she wrote her stories
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 02:08:33 PM
it had to do with linens or cotton? about making something in the same way she wrote her stories

Yes.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TheFoz on October 04, 2008, 02:08:58 PM
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I'm thinking about the stem was something, maybe a process, that was similar to the way the author combined American idioms along with some sort of Chinese talk story thing, or maybe not and I may have all sections mixed together.

I had it narrowed down to the a piece of wood cotton is weaved with a special technique (B I think) and two pieces of different cotton are woven together so it can sell at a lower price. I picked the last one despite the "lower price" not making me feel too well.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: LessThanLiz on October 04, 2008, 02:11:03 PM
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I'm thinking about the stem was something, maybe a process, that was similar to the way the author combined American idioms along with some sort of Chinese talk story thing, or maybe not and I may have all sections mixed together.

I had it narrowed down to the a piece of wood cotton is weaved with a special technique (B I think) and two pieces of different cotton are woven together so it can sell at a lower price. I picked the last one despite the "lower price" not making me feel too well.
I think I picked the other one (special technique), but that was one of the questions I was really iffy on (not many questions stick out in my mind, but that one gave me enough trouble.)
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TheFoz on October 04, 2008, 02:12:47 PM
Come to think of it I'm not sure which one I picked because I was so torn between the two.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 02:14:34 PM
Come to think of it I'm not sure which one I picked because I was so torn between the two.

I didn't pick the price one, that much I remember.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 04, 2008, 02:16:09 PM
^
I'm almost positive it was first of your guesses, not the latter. The passage specifically said that in using English idioms she was basically creating something that emulated Chinese words and their puns, or something to that effect. So the CR was one in which one type of fibre was being woven to look like another. Or this is what I reasoned it to be.

It's funny violaboy, I knew a lot about the cakewalk in June, but that passage took up loads of time! I never find that knowing about the stuff in the passage helps me go quicker! I was torn on a couple questions in that passage, mainly the ones about what person B would say about the people in Passage A and another question about Person B's attitude. I was down to two guesses on those, and chose the one I thought fit the best but we'll see.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: blueskies6 on October 04, 2008, 02:17:35 PM


Also, my proctor was a hot law student who looked like the lead singer from Third Eye Blind. Pretty damn nice way to start off the day.

lucky!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: sexonthebeach15 on October 04, 2008, 02:25:53 PM
1.) the china RC was the hardest on the RC, but RC was still pretty easy.  the two difficult ones on the china passage were:

a.) the question about combining chinese with english and how its similar to cotton (using cotton to weave something that is similar to another type of fabric)
b.) which weakened the last paragraph (i chose the book discussed in the last paragraph was not representative on the author's work)

2.) for log games, #3 was pure sequencing (a bit tricky at that) and the day/night shift only mattered for one of the last few questions.

3.) the last game was a b*tch.  i chose D's/E's towards the end, made educated guesses on one or two of these but answered as many as i could on this game.

about the curve: they set it before the exam, BUT they look at general performance, both on the real test and the experimentals (these are not used just to pre-test questions, but to equate between test versions as well) to determine if there are significant differences that cannot be explained by simple variation but rather other variables in the test pool.  if there are such variations, they will adjust the scale.  BUT, they look at this across the entire test, not just section by section.  so an easy RC could comp for a harder LG, and they won't change the scale.  but people botch up everything, and they will equate to a degree (but not like in a college class - so if the top scorer's raw score was a 70, they wouldn't get a 180 lol unless they predicted that or the test was insanely inconsistent)
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: eslite119 on October 04, 2008, 02:32:15 PM
1.) the china RC was the hardest on the RC, but RC was still pretty easy.  the two difficult ones on the china passage were:

a.) the question about combining chinese with english and how its similar to cotton (using cotton to weave something that is similar to another type of fabric)
b.) which weakened the last paragraph (i chose the book discussed in the last paragraph was not representative on the author's work)


For a, I clearly remember my answer being D as I narrowed it down between B(don't remember the content of the answer somehow).
For b, I chose the same answer.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: nevdash on October 04, 2008, 02:39:52 PM
Thales, I also remember there being a lot of Ds and Es, so I think that's good. I was kind of suspicious that I had messed up.

In LG I found the answers followed a really odd trend. From being many As through Cs in the first half to being mainly Ds and Es for the second.

Actually, there were similarily odd trends all throughout the test... I didn't let it bother me during the test, but I'm hoping others have noticed this too.
^^ bumping this. Comments?

Gah, I distinctly remember my last two on the last game being AA, but I also seem to remember a DD in that game, as well.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: sexonthebeach15 on October 04, 2008, 02:41:05 PM
1.) the china RC was the hardest on the RC, but RC was still pretty easy.  the two difficult ones on the china passage were:

a.) the question about combining chinese with english and how its similar to cotton (using cotton to weave something that is similar to another type of fabric)
b.) which weakened the last paragraph (i chose the book discussed in the last paragraph was not representative on the author's work)


For a, I clearly remember my answer being D as I narrowed it down between B(don't remember the content of the answer somehow).
For b, I chose the same answer.

For your response to what i said about a - i think what clenched it for B is the fact that the author mentioned in the passage (i forget her name) used english exclusively to express certain things in chinese/from chinese culture that were combined with western elements...so B, where you used one fabric to weave something else made more sense.  i don't remember the specifics of D, and i think i picked that first, but i remember it having someone that made it wrong (i think).

ahh, you see la, i think that's what made it wrong, is that it used two types of cotton, when what the author mentioned in the passage did was use one language to express it.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TheFoz on October 04, 2008, 02:42:33 PM
For the second one (what weakened the authors conclusion) I said it was she wasn't representative of Chinese-American writings. I stayed away from the one about the book because the book was just as example of a larger point whereas I thought the point he was trying to make was that she had a literary lineage if you will. If she's not representative then she may not have that lineage. I'm probably wrong though.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: nevdash on October 04, 2008, 02:46:24 PM
For the second one (what weakened the authors conclusion) I said it was she wasn't representative of Chinese-American writings. I stayed away from the one about the book because the book was just as example of a larger point whereas I thought the point he was trying to make was that she had a literary lineage if you will. If she's not representative then she may not have that lineage. I'm probably wrong though.

I actually chose the opposite as you, though I did narrow it down to those two. To me, it seemed as if the book not being representative of her work undermines the author's claim that her writing as a whole has a base in the whatevertalk tradition. That book is the only example he gives of her writing, so if that's nothing like her other writing, then she probably isn't heavily influenced by the whatevertalk roots.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: I Will Get Over 170 on October 04, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
I went with the book one, too.

For change of employer/exchange information reading comp, what was the recommendation that would most fit in the context of the passage? I narrowed it down to something about “employers are better off using incentives to keep their employees” and “something must be done to make it so that employers can identify traded secrets or something.”  I went with the incentive one, which I think is probably wrong, but the “must” in the other one sounded too strong.

And what about the limestone/quartz one?

And was one of the logic games answers that Lulu couldn't go sixth (assuming there are six).
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TheFoz on October 04, 2008, 02:50:37 PM
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ah, I distinctly remember my last two on the last game being AA, but I also seem to remember a DD in that game, as well.

I think the last one of the last game was C.

It was a negation of a combination of two rules. If somebody stayed on the bus until a certain point then somebody else was off. This second person was on (states that in the prompt) so which must be false? Well if the second person is on the contrapositive is that the first person was off. I think this first person was V or J, one of the two, and then somebody had to come "above" them or get off before them. The answer I chose said that whoever was supposed to be above that person was off the bus or something, when in fact they had to be on. It's very hard to explain online but I remember having to negate the last rule then using the V gets off before J rule to get that somebody else should be on/off at a certain time.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
For the second one (what weakened the authors conclusion) I said it was she wasn't representative of Chinese-American writings. I stayed away from the one about the book because the book was just as example of a larger point whereas I thought the point he was trying to make was that she had a literary lineage if you will. If she's not representative then she may not have that lineage. I'm probably wrong though.

I actually chose the opposite as you, though I did narrow it down to those two. To me, it seemed as if the book not being representative of her work undermines the author's claim that her writing as a whole has a base in the whatevertalk tradition. That book is the only example he gives of her writing, so if that's nothing like her other writing, then she probably isn't heavily influenced by the whatevertalk roots.

I went with the book one, too.

For change of employer/exchange information reading comp, what was the recommendation that would most fit in the context of the passage? I narrowed it down to something about “employers are better off using incentives to keep their employees” and “something must be done to make it so that employers can identify traded secrets or something.”  I went with the incentive one, which I think is probably wrong, but the “must” in the other one sounded too strong.

And what about the limestone/quartz one?

And was one of the logic games answers that Lulu couldn't go sixth (assuming there are six).

Yes because there was a rule that said that the person who goes first goes last as well and Lulu couldn't go first.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: nevdash on October 04, 2008, 02:51:51 PM
And was one of the logic games answers that Lulu couldn't go sixth (assuming there are six).

I believe so. I remember that one being almost too easy.

Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: sexonthebeach15 on October 04, 2008, 02:52:06 PM
For the second one (what weakened the authors conclusion) I said it was she wasn't representative of Chinese-American writings. I stayed away from the one about the book because the book was just as example of a larger point whereas I thought the point he was trying to make was that she had a literary lineage if you will. If she's not representative then she may not have that lineage. I'm probably wrong though.

you overthought it.  i don't remember all of the other choices but none of them made as much sense and weakened it as directly as the book choice.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: sexonthebeach15 on October 04, 2008, 02:54:06 PM
I went with the book one, too.

For change of employer/exchange information reading comp, what was the recommendation that would most fit in the context of the passage? I narrowed it down to something about “employers are better off using incentives to keep their employees” and “something must be done to make it so that employers can identify traded secrets or something.”  I went with the incentive one, which I think is probably wrong, but the “must” in the other one sounded too strong.

And what about the limestone/quartz one?

And was one of the logic games answers that Lulu couldn't go sixth (assuming there are six).

i chose the incentive one.  the prob is, unless the secrets were physical objects (e.g. the example in the last few lines), the whole point of the last paragraph was how difficult it was to identify which secrets were a product of the employee's prior knowledge with the employer, how much could be developed organically, etc.  so the author wouldn't recommend anything about identification after he/she just said how convulted and unclear the identification is.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: I Will Get Over 170 on October 04, 2008, 02:55:20 PM
I went with the book one, too.

For change of employer/exchange information reading comp, what was the recommendation that would most fit in the context of the passage? I narrowed it down to something about “employers are better off using incentives to keep their employees” and “something must be done to make it so that employers can identify traded secrets or something.”  I went with the incentive one, which I think is probably wrong, but the “must” in the other one sounded too strong.

And what about the limestone/quartz one?

And was one of the logic games answers that Lulu couldn't go sixth (assuming there are six).

i chose the incentive one.  the prob is, unless the secrets were physical objects (e.g. the example in the last few lines), the whole point of the last paragraph was how difficult it was to identify which secrets were a product of the employee's prior knowledge with the employer, how much could be developed organically, etc.  so the author wouldn't recommend anything about identification after he/she just said how convulted and unclear the identification is.

Alright, cool... I just thought that the incentive thing sounded so far out, but yeah, I chose it.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: grover1 on October 04, 2008, 03:04:54 PM
For the second one (what weakened the authors conclusion) I said it was she wasn't representative of Chinese-American writings. I stayed away from the one about the book because the book was just as example of a larger point whereas I thought the point he was trying to make was that she had a literary lineage if you will. If she's not representative then she may not have that lineage. I'm probably wrong though.

I choose this also. It seems we're in the minority, but I thought the author was arguing that critics did not assess whatshernames books accurately by not taking the Chinese storytelling traditions into account. If Chinese American writing is not similar, wouldn't the argument be a lot weaker? Maybe I was oversimplifying it...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: BarryLaine on October 04, 2008, 03:16:00 PM
If my experimental section is what I think it was, I probably did okay.  Usually RC gives me trouble (guesses on the last few...and, of course, too many wrong answers :P) and I finish the games...today I ran out of time on games and guessed the last two, but finished all the RC...

My biggest problem is my inability to sleep the night before I take the LSAT!  I think I fell asleep eight minutes before my alarm rang...WTF?!  If I could change one thing about myself it would be that I would able to sleep like a baby the night before I take the f-ing LSAT!!!!....and be taller...but that's two things...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: I Will Get Over 170 on October 04, 2008, 03:17:38 PM
Is there like a chatroom where we can review the test?  Anyone wanna set up an AIM room?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
Is there like a chatroom where we can review the test?  Anyone wanna set up an AIM room?

If someone does this I'll join.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: grover1 on October 04, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
Is there like a chatroom where we can review the test?  Anyone wanna set up an AIM room?

If someone does this I'll join.

I would join also
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: bt on October 04, 2008, 03:20:47 PM
chat0808089

join

or give me your s/n and i'll invite you!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: genericgrad on October 04, 2008, 03:21:08 PM
Now I have the sudden worry that I mis-bubbled somewhere.....this is going to be a long three weeks
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 04, 2008, 03:22:05 PM
chat0808089

join

or give me your s/n and i'll invite you!

Invite me: lustedchimp
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: grover1 on October 04, 2008, 03:23:02 PM
chat0808089

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Hey my im is Slait7. Can you send me an invite?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: I Will Get Over 170 on October 04, 2008, 03:25:27 PM
ignore this
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: LessThanLiz on October 04, 2008, 03:28:31 PM
Now I have the sudden worry that I mis-bubbled somewhere.....this is going to be a long three weeks
Three weeks to imagine every single possible thing that could go wrong, joy.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: LSATstruggle on October 04, 2008, 03:38:08 PM
If my experimental section is what I think it was, I probably did okay.  Usually RC gives me trouble (guesses on the last few...and, of course, too many wrong answers :P) and I finish the games...today I ran out of time on games and guessed the last two, but finished all the RC...

My biggest problem is my inability to sleep the night before I take the LSAT!  I think I fell asleep eight minutes before my alarm rang...WTF?!  If I could change one thing about myself it would be that I would able to sleep like a baby the night before I take the f-ing LSAT!!!!....and be taller...but that's two things...

Xanax is the key. I took the FEB test. I could not sleep. To try to sleep i took two pills of melatolin. I finally slept like at 4 AM. Woke up at 7 AM. Tired as  hell.


Yesterday  i was nervous. So i did a few games and took some xanax .5 MG.  And took another one 7 :30.  By 9 i was a sleep.  I set my alarm to 5 so i can review a few things. Went right back to sleep after it rang. I almost over slept if my mother did not wake up. I forgot it was even LSAT day.

At the test center i felt no anxiety.


This is such a far cry from the FEB test where it was hard for me to do 1 passage or 1 LR question. I had no memory of the answer after i left.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: BarryLaine on October 04, 2008, 04:24:05 PM
It's too late for xanax...it's Lagavulin single malt scotch now.  Cheers!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: Tracy T on October 04, 2008, 06:19:51 PM
I haven't posted for a while, but I did take the LSAT today.  My sections were LR RC LR LR LG.  I feel absolutely drained.  I don't feel so bad about the test, but by the 3rd section of LR's I thought my hell...enough already !

I am SO not looking forward to 3 weeks of waaaaaaaaaaaiting.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: augusta on October 04, 2008, 06:46:58 PM
I had the experimental LR.

Oh man... I always felt pressed for time during that test.

ME too. I always finish LR/RC with extra time. Not so today. I want to blame it on time speeding up, extra rotations of the earth or something. Pisser.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: augusta on October 04, 2008, 07:03:56 PM
For the second one (what weakened the authors conclusion) I said it was she wasn't representative of Chinese-American writings. I stayed away from the one about the book because the book was just as example of a larger point whereas I thought the point he was trying to make was that she had a literary lineage if you will. If she's not representative then she may not have that lineage. I'm probably wrong though.

I actually chose the opposite as you, though I did narrow it down to those two. To me, it seemed as if the book not being representative of her work undermines the author's claim that her writing as a whole has a base in the whatevertalk tradition. That book is the only example he gives of her writing, so if that's nothing like her other writing, then she probably isn't heavily influenced by the whatevertalk roots.

Yeah but I don't think that was the claim. I remember pausing on that one, and while I don't remember what I picked, I remember NOT picking the one about it being unrepresentative of her work. Claim is that she is influenced by the tradition, and this book is evidence of it; even if no other book of hers is like that, the claim could still hold, and now that I think about it, it could arguably even be strengthened by that fact--the style is one of evolution, change, reflecting nuance and variation, right, the way oral traditions do--so you might not even expect her other work to look just like this book.

But I may be stretching that a bit...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: catcatcatcatcat on October 04, 2008, 08:32:05 PM
I think one thing that helped me HUGE today is that the proctor put his digital timer up on the LCD projector screen (it was at my school, and we have those projectors that basically transmit a color video of what is sitting on their screen onto the big screens) and so we had the minutes and seconds up. it made my timing a lot more accurate...i think i would have done slightly worse if not for that, since i have troubles timing with my analog watch.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 04, 2008, 08:36:02 PM
^
wow that's lucky. I like the watch I have, it's very precise and better than the other cheapo watch I had but that would have been nice. When I was standing in line to register this (annoying) guy in front of me was chatting with his friend and he was like 'it's so annoying not being able to bring in a timer. There is no way I'm going to buy an analog watch just for this.' And I was like what?! You'll spend $140 writing this test, but not $20 at Walmart to get a cheap watch? then when we were in the room they were looking around for a clock. I was like um....right.

I still don't think that is the claim the passage was making. And I could be really off here, but from what I understood the claim was she was influenced by talk-song-whatever and this is clearly indicated by this book. If this book is not representative of her work, than it's an anomaly, and she is not heavily influenced by this tradition. But I could be remembering everything wrong. I still think the trickiest question on the passage was the argument part question.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: catcatcatcatcat on October 04, 2008, 08:50:36 PM
I think (?) that the question wasn't "which of the following would most weaken the entire passing?" but was "which of the following would most weaken the last paragraph?".

yes, the entire passage was about being influenced in general. but the last paragraph was specifically an example of how she was influenced by the tradition given her one book. so obviously the CR is the one about the book not being typical of her work.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TheFoz on October 04, 2008, 09:10:38 PM
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yes, the entire passage was about being influenced in general. but the last paragraph was specifically an example of how she was influenced by the tradition given her one book. so obviously the CR is the one about the book not being typical of her work.

It was the entire paragraph. I remember wondering this when I was stumped on the question and went back to read it explicitly looking for a paragraph reference but there was none. If it was "last paragraph" that would mean a lot of people misread because most were stumped on it and I think we can all agree that if it referred to the last paragraph the book answer would clearly be right because, well, the last paragraph dealt 100% with her book.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 04, 2008, 09:19:19 PM
It's so hard because even though it only happened earlier we all remember it differently  :D

I was almost positive that it referred specifically to weaken the author's claims in the last paragraph. But meh. that's how I remember it, and that's how it better be  ;)
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: broach911 on October 04, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
I felt much better this time around. When I took it in June I felt uncertain and few days after had appendicitis so I was in terrible shape. This test I was much calmer since surprisingly I did well in June, so I came into this test with the mentality that I was already fine and this was just nitpicking.
Overall I don't think the test was hard. It had its parts but the sections themselves weren't overly difficult. I only had a problem with one part of the LR but I plowed through it. The RC was fine up until the damn China Talk story. I spent an hour reading one of the question and finally just gave up and up some Native American answer choice down. But overall the other stories weren't bad.  The games were fine up until the last one were I just froze and couldn't find a way to attack it. I answered the first two questions since they were easy enough, but just steamrolled down the D's for the last three. Damn Buses...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: cherries on October 05, 2008, 12:35:33 AM
I had a different test, but I think I did OK.  I had LR-RC-LR-LR-LG.  I don't think I did too well on the first two sections, but the last three were easy as cake.  I finished both LR sections early, which is almost unheard of for me except for on PrepTest 48, and the LG weren't too difficult.  This has  me a little worried that there might have been a curve similar to PrepTest 48, but I guess I'll never know.  Overall, I feel really good about it and am prepared to accept whatever score I get (provided it's a 167 or above haha).
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: sexonthebeach15 on October 05, 2008, 01:42:11 AM
^
wow that's lucky. I like the watch I have, it's very precise and better than the other cheapo watch I had but that would have been nice. When I was standing in line to register this (annoying) guy in front of me was chatting with his friend and he was like 'it's so annoying not being able to bring in a timer. There is no way I'm going to buy an analog watch just for this.' And I was like what?! You'll spend $140 writing this test, but not $20 at Walmart to get a cheap watch? then when we were in the room they were looking around for a clock. I was like um....right.

I still don't think that is the claim the passage was making. And I could be really off here, but from what I understood the claim was she was influenced by talk-song-whatever and this is clearly indicated by this book. If this book is not representative of her work, than it's an anomaly, and she is not heavily influenced by this tradition. But I could be remembering everything wrong. I still think the trickiest question on the passage was the argument part question.

what are you referring to there?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 05, 2008, 08:05:18 AM
I had a different test (I'm abroad), but I think I did OK.  I had LR-RC-LR-LR-LG.  I don't think I did too well on the first two sections, but the last three were easy as cake.  I finished both LR sections early, which is almost unheard of for me except for on PrepTest 48, and the LG weren't too difficult.  This has  me a little worried that there might have been a curve similar to PrepTest 48, but I guess I'll never know.  Overall, I feel really good about it and am prepared to accept whatever score I get (provided it's a 167 or above haha).

I had the same test format and fumbled a bit on the first two sections, at least until I got the feeling back in my hands. I completely blacked out during that test though, and wrote it like a robot.

I'm really hoping some miracle deity gave me some good fortune yesterday.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 05, 2008, 08:18:50 AM
It's so hard because even though it only happened earlier we all remember it differently  :D

I was almost positive that it referred specifically to weaken the author's claims in the last paragraph. But meh. that's how I remember it, and that's how it better be  ;)

It was definitely the claims in the last paragraph. I remember that question distinctly.

Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 05, 2008, 10:00:35 AM
It's so hard because even though it only happened earlier we all remember it differently  :D

I was almost positive that it referred specifically to weaken the author's claims in the last paragraph. But meh. that's how I remember it, and that's how it better be  ;)

It was definitely the claims in the last paragraph. I remember that question distinctly.



I'm pretty sure it wasn't weaken the arguments claim in the last paragraph but weaken the author's entire argument.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 05, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
haha I guess we will all find out when the test comes back what that question was! The argument part question I'm talking about is the question that referred to the person listing all those characteristics of talk-song-whatever and what the purpose of that was. I struggled a bit on that for sure. Don't even remember what I selected in the end.

broach - that is exactly how the last LG happened for me.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tcwhat on October 05, 2008, 10:09:26 AM
haha I guess we will all find out when the test comes back what that question was! The argument part question I'm talking about is the question that referred to the person listing all those characteristics of talk-song-whatever and what the purpose of that was. I struggled a bit on that for sure. Don't even remember what I selected in the end.

broach - that is exactly how the last LG happened for me.

Oh.  We are referring to two different questions then - I remember that one about the characteristics as a separate one - but both had some reference to the final paragraph.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: elitney on October 05, 2008, 10:37:04 AM
last four of the "evil" game were BECD, i can never remember the accept answer, think it was d
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: kennedyposter on October 05, 2008, 01:42:18 PM
I had two LG sections...thank GOD the first one I had wasn't the scored section. I bombed it. I was so depressed at the break but managed to recoop for the second LR section and then saw that I had another LG which was a life saver. Overall, I found both LR sections to be easier than normal but unfortunately the RC was horrible. I could have very well missed 10 questions on that one. I'm guessing I got 20-23 right on both LR's, probably 18-20 on the LG's and who knows what on the RC..probably 7 haha
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 05, 2008, 01:51:58 PM
This RC was tough. But I hate RC anyway.

I only had difficulty with that stupid Chinese passage. Too many specific reference questions from what I recall. And it was beyond irrelevant to me. I couldnt have been less bored reading that passage.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: blairchuckalways on October 05, 2008, 02:22:19 PM
well it's official (i confirmed with a variety of people), my first LR was real. yea, the one that sucked me balls and hung me up to dry. (and i'm a girl).

i'm just praying i didn't bomb rc, lg, nor the second LR passage (which seemed much easier).

*crosses fingers* -- officially from me, socrates LR was the hardest section out of all, but i also felt cracked out since it was my first.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: middlepath on October 05, 2008, 07:51:27 PM
Hello everyone. I have been following the threads but seldom posted. Now that the LSAT is taken care of, I am in.

I have no idea how I did (OCT test, of course). I too had LR, RC, LR, LR, LG and thank goodness for that. However, I don't recall much. The whole time I was in a kind of trance. I did finish most of the questions on time. About two LR's or so I rushed through (don't know which one/s, though). And the last game was way over my head so I made some *intelligent* guesses for the last three or so questions. This means around 5 or so questions are probably not correct. Moreover, I had some problems with around 7-8 LR questions - two or more probable answers!?! A few RC questions too seemed to be tricky. Ergo, I think I am looking at mid-160's, provided I didn't mess up while bubbling in.

This shucks.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: klmnumbers on October 06, 2008, 04:26:49 AM
All right, a couple days late, but I don't care! This was my first time taking the LSAT, and I never did a real practice test, just some stuff on my own. (I had LR-RC-LR-LR-LG)

I was a bit surprised to read the boards and see that most people found this test much harder than usual. I found it a bit harder than the practices I had done, but just assumed it was nerves!

I had three LR sections and hope to GOD the second one that appeared on my test was the experimental. A lot of the questions seemed quite unusual and that was definitely the section i was the most unsure of. Not like "I have no idea", but that had the most "well it's this one or this one." to it. I found the last LR section on mine VERY easy and finished it with enough time to do the whole section over again. (ETA - apparently the second I struggled with was the experimental, yaaaaaaaaay! That was the only section I felt completely rushed/nervous on)

I thought the RC was OK; I found the passages easy to understand and only struggled with a few of the questions in regards to wording (the Kingston article with the odd cotton question for example, which based on peoples responses here I think I missed, lol, but I barely remember..) Also, OT, but I the whole time I read the passage I kept trying to remember if she wrote The Woman Warrior because I read that in high school XD.

I actually really enjoyed the logic games. I loved the last one and feel confident I did that one quite well. I only had issues with one of the games and made a couple educated guesses. (the game I struggled with the was the night shift/day shift, I answered the first two questions fine, got to the third, had my mind blown and skipped to finish the test, came back and made some guesses after ruling out 1 or 2 definite wrongs)

All in all I feel pretty OK about it, I'm terrible at estimations but I hope I did well. =)
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: booyakasha45 on October 06, 2008, 05:13:11 AM
Yeah, it wasn't really relatively difficult. No surprises. I might be biased because I took 29 preptests prior to the actual test.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: pe402 on October 06, 2008, 06:59:35 AM
I think that the test wasn't easy but it wasn't horribly hard. On the other hand, I did a large number of preptests too... I did get tripped up on the fourth gam (the bust question) but really only on the last two questions.

I'm going to try to forget about the LSAT for the moment and focus all of my energy on the Personal Statement etc. Hopefully we all did better than we think...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: bt on October 06, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
I'd say the RC was comparable to June, but slightly easier.  LG was without a doubt harder.  LR about the same.

June curve was -10.  I'm betting -10/-11 for this one as well, and leaning towards 11.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: CTL on October 06, 2008, 07:40:14 AM
Did anyone find that there were very few As in the LG section?  I can't remember now, but I'm pretty sure I only had one.  I looked at it after I finished (it was my last section) and I thought it was a bit strange...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: booyakasha45 on October 06, 2008, 07:50:04 AM
I remembered no As/Bs on the last game.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 06, 2008, 07:51:03 AM
Did anyone find that there were very few As in the LG section?  I can't remember now, but I'm pretty sure I only had one.  I looked at it after I finished (it was my last section) and I thought it was a bit strange...

I believe the As were mainly in the first game only. I thought this was weird also. I found the answer progression was mainly from left to right (i.e. A to E, from first to last game). You can PM me if you want to discuss it in detail.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 06, 2008, 07:52:11 AM
I'd say the RC was comparable to June, but slightly easier.  LG was without a doubt harder.  LR about the same.

June curve was -10.  I'm betting -10/-11 for this one as well, and leaning towards 11.

I didn't think RC was that tough, but there were a lot of specific reference questions. Expecially in that stupid Chinese oral talk passage.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TimMitchell on October 06, 2008, 07:57:29 AM
I think I did well, don't want to talk about specific questions since I'm using my real name, so I'll just tag and lurk  ;D
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 06, 2008, 08:03:35 AM
I think I did well, don't want to talk about specific questions since I'm using my real name, so I'll just tag and lurk  ;D

Wuss.

Hey everyone, Tim Mitchell gave me a complete and accurate answer key for every question prior to the test. Wooo 180!







P.S. to LSAC lawyers: just kidding
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TimMitchell on October 06, 2008, 08:06:28 AM
I think I did well, don't want to talk about specific questions since I'm using my real name, so I'll just tag and lurk  ;D

Wuss.

Hey everyone, Tim Mitchell gave me a complete and accurate answer key for every question prior to the test. Wooo 180!







P.S. just kidding

Lol, if I had the ability to do that I wouldn't have to go to law school, I could sell tests to people and make plenty of $$$

However, I have thought of a business plan: hire someone to take the LSAT on the east coast and once the tests are distributed have them bolt out of the room. He could then scan the test and I would sell it to people getting ready to take the test on the West Coast! That would give them like 2 hours to go over the test before hand! Genius!
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 06, 2008, 08:07:30 AM
I think I did well, don't want to talk about specific questions since I'm using my real name, so I'll just tag and lurk  ;D

Wuss.

Hey everyone, Tim Mitchell gave me a complete and accurate answer key for every question prior to the test. Wooo 180!







P.S. just kidding

Lol, if I had the ability to do that I wouldn't have to go to law school, I could sell tests to people and make plenty of $$$

However, I have thought of a business plan: hire someone to take the LSAT on the east coast and once the tests are distributed have them bolt out of the room. He could then scan the test and I would sell it to people getting ready to take the test on the West Coast! That would give them like 2 hours to go over the test before hand! Genius!

I'll say it in advance: you have been sued.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: TimMitchell on October 06, 2008, 08:27:01 AM
I think I did well, don't want to talk about specific questions since I'm using my real name, so I'll just tag and lurk  ;D

Wuss.

Hey everyone, Tim Mitchell gave me a complete and accurate answer key for every question prior to the test. Wooo 180!







P.S. just kidding

Lol, if I had the ability to do that I wouldn't have to go to law school, I could sell tests to people and make plenty of $$$

However, I have thought of a business plan: hire someone to take the LSAT on the east coast and once the tests are distributed have them bolt out of the room. He could then scan the test and I would sell it to people getting ready to take the test on the West Coast! That would give them like 2 hours to go over the test before hand! Genius!

You might want to talk to Danny Khatchaturian and Dikran Iskendarian

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jan/27/local/me-58227
I think they are spending a lot of time asking people if they would like to supersize the value meal now somewhere in LA. I suggest hitting some McD's drive throughs in Glendale to find them. 


Wow, who would have thought someone would have actually tried some stupid that! I can't believe they got caught because they were using their pagers. Good job figuring it out on LSACs part.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: !закон и право! on October 06, 2008, 08:42:37 AM
I think I did well, don't want to talk about specific questions since I'm using my real name, so I'll just tag and lurk  ;D

Wuss.

Hey everyone, Tim Mitchell gave me a complete and accurate answer key for every question prior to the test. Wooo 180!







P.S. just kidding

Lol, if I had the ability to do that I wouldn't have to go to law school, I could sell tests to people and make plenty of $$$

However, I have thought of a business plan: hire someone to take the LSAT on the east coast and once the tests are distributed have them bolt out of the room. He could then scan the test and I would sell it to people getting ready to take the test on the West Coast! That would give them like 2 hours to go over the test before hand! Genius!

You might want to talk to Danny Khatchaturian and Dikran Iskendarian

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jan/27/local/me-58227
I think they are spending a lot of time asking people if they would like to supersize the value meal now somewhere in LA. I suggest hitting some McD's drive throughs in Glendale to find them. 


Wow, who would have thought someone would have actually tried some stupid that! I can't believe they got caught because they were using their pagers. Good job figuring it out on LSACs part.

I have a feeling that Melikyan pulling a switchblade on the proctor was what did them in more than the pagers!

According to grand jury testimony, Melikyan used a fake identification card to enter the basement of the USC Law School, where the test was being given on Feb. 8, 1997. Once the test was handed out, he grabbed a copy and bolted out a back door. The proctor ran after him, and the two scuffled. Melikyan pulled what appeared to be a switchblade, scaring off the proctor.


LOL what a f-ing moron
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: BarryLaine on October 06, 2008, 09:05:08 AM
Imagine you cheat on the test, pull the switchblade, get caught, and have to explain yourself to a judge who got raped by "riddled basins of attraction" after PTing at 170.  Holy *&^%!  No mercy.  They're lucky he didn't drop the death penalty on them. 
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: tsangth on October 06, 2008, 09:42:37 AM
did most people have a hard time ont hat last game??? it was ridiculous and I wanted to know if anyone had a easier time on it so I could pick their brain.

Thanks, thomas
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: amise on October 06, 2008, 09:56:42 AM
I didn't find it hard, but unfortunately I have forgotten all of the specifics. Some sort of LSAT mental blackout. I think the best way to approach that question was to attack it rather than spend time diagramming and trying to figure out the various possible scenarios. I went question by question and applied the rules as necessary...doing this it seemed relatively straight-forward. My approach to this game was different than my approach to the others...normally I do try to figure out the options prior to the first question.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: nnebaby on October 06, 2008, 10:51:10 AM
Did anyone find any weird LR Q's I'm trying to remember some but I cant remember any that were actually hard or made me really think... what do you guys think?
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: booyakasha45 on October 06, 2008, 11:04:44 AM
I didn't have trouble with the last game. I just went straight to the questions, after making the 2 or 3 inferences I immediately saw. I didn't understand the rules right away, but going right to the questions helped clear up any confusion. It wasn't really hard, just kind of weird. 
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: lethalewapon04 on October 06, 2008, 12:33:24 PM
I had two LG sections. Does anyone know which was the experimental? One was extreme suck and the other was alright. I have a kind of mental blackout and can't remember any of the games besides the ones mentioned now. Does anyone remember any of the experimental logic games games so I can ease my mind. Please?

Or... if I had LG LR RC LG LR does that mean that everyone who had logic games had the same ones at the same times. Because so far I've been reading that the first one was experimental.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: drupito on October 06, 2008, 01:57:38 PM
Do you think you are cool trying to sound like julie? It has already been done man.  Try something else. 
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: amise on October 06, 2008, 02:25:34 PM
The first LG section was experimental. I had the same format, but can't specifically remember any of the experimental games.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: meggo on October 06, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
From the sounds of it, I'm so glad I didn't get the LG experimental. I was hoping to get it, since I genuinely enjoy doing logic games, and I find it less draining than the other two, but it really sounds terrible. Hopefully though, when it was that insanely hard, people realized it was the experimental....
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: *devo* on October 06, 2008, 03:53:01 PM
Do you think you are cool trying to sound like julie? It has already been done man.  Try something else. 

Your conclusion about my intentions is unsupported and unwarranted.  You do know that a lot Hispanic people talk with the same dialect and say similar things, as do a lot of Asian people, European people, Italian people, French people, Middle Eastern people, and people that are idiots?  I'll let you figure out which group you are in. 


Cliff, this makes no sense.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: sexonthebeach15 on October 06, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
i had experimental logic games as well, third, and the real section fifth.

that being said, i found the first 3 experimental games easier/not as "odd" as the first three games on real section.  the fourth one was unusual and difficult as well, like the real one...so to me it'd be a toss up as to which i'd want scored hah.

to be completely honest, the first game in the experimental LG was ridiculously easy.  i did it in under 5 minutes.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: CTL on October 06, 2008, 04:24:11 PM
But since none of us are idiots, we have no idea what you are talking about...
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: *devo* on October 06, 2008, 04:48:58 PM
Do you think you are cool trying to sound like julie? It has already been done man.  Try something else. 

Your conclusion about my intentions is unsupported and unwarranted.  You do know that a lot Hispanic people talk with the same dialect and say similar things, as do a lot of Asian people, European people, Italian people, French people, Middle Eastern people, and people that are idiots?  I'll let you figure out which group you are in. 


Cliff, this makes no sense.
It does to people that read and think.  Is it really necessary to explain it further?
I guess you have never heard of a thing called an analogy.
Hispanic people communicate in similar ways as each other, Asian people communicate in similar ways as each other, idiots communicate in similar ways as each other, etc.


Looks like you edited your previous post so that it makes sense, then posted in the forum like I couldn't read.  Well played! Now you are an a$$hole and a moron.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: nnebaby on October 06, 2008, 04:57:48 PM
CLIFF

what do you mean I am in for a surprise? I was just asking if anyone remembered some of the questions that were challenging because I could not remember. That does not mean they dont exist, it just means I do not recall them.

Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: *devo* on October 06, 2008, 04:59:47 PM
CLIFF

what do you mean I am in for a surprise? I was just asking if anyone remembered some of the questions that were challenging because I could not remember. That does not mean they dont exist, it just means I do not recall them.



Ignore anything cliff says because it is never meant to be helpful.  If it seems helpful you are not reading it with enough sarcasm.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: augusta on October 06, 2008, 05:50:51 PM
I would like to take a moment and thank all of the recent contributors for making this the most surreal thread-reading experience I may ever have had.
Title: Re: So how did we do?
Post by: *devo* on October 06, 2008, 06:02:44 PM
CLIFF

what do you mean I am in for a surprise? I was just asking if anyone remembered some of the questions that were challenging because I could not remember. That does not mean they dont exist, it just means I do not recall them.



Ignore anything cliff says because it is never meant to be helpful.  If it seems helpful you are not reading it with enough sarcasm.
Bolded claim is factually false.

I'll throw down more evidence right here:

TO nnebaby:
You posted I cant remember any that were actually hard or made me really think

The LSAT is a very difficult test, one of the hardest standardized ones out there, especially given the extreme time pressure.  Check out the percentile ranking chart if you don't believe me.  If you did not think anything you had to answer was hard and as you say none of them really made you think you likely fell for a lot of the glossy sounding sucker choices.  Make a new thread asking everyone that has scored in the 90th% or above whether or not it was a painful experience under which they had to think and struggle a LOT to achieve a good score.  Also ask them whether they felt like crap and wiped out after taking it.  Maybe make a poll with those options and whatever other ones you can think of.

See, Cliffy is helpful   :)


Nice post. I take back the moron and not helpful comments (but only as they pertain to this thread). The a$$hole comment still stands because you accused me of not being able to read then admitted your initial post was incomplete ;D.