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Applying to Law School => Law School Admissions => Topic started by: bride2B on May 08, 2008, 08:14:54 AM

Title: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: bride2B on May 08, 2008, 08:14:54 AM
Does anyone have any information on Stanford's waitlist and how likely one is to be accepted off of the waitlist?  I know that SLS is conservative in its initial round of acceptances since it is such a small school.  I also know, based on LSN, that many of the admits and waitlist applicants to SLS are also already in at H or Y or CCN with $$.  I have thus far written a LOCI and sent in an additional LOR from the head of my firm's IP department and I am going to visit this weekend. 

Any advice from current SLS 1L's or other wait listed applicants would be much appreciated.  I would love to return to California (I attended undergrad in SoCal) and Stanford is pretty much as good as it gets in terms of IP and new media law-- my areas of interest.  Do I have any hope??
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 08, 2008, 08:22:02 AM
I'm also trying really hard to get off the waitlist. 

I've always wondered how much of an impact visiting really has.  Doesn't seem like it could hurt though.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: bride2B on May 08, 2008, 08:57:36 AM
Good luck to you  :D  With any luck I will see you there in the fall.  I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: jd2bee on May 08, 2008, 10:57:58 AM
Good luck to you  :D  With any luck I will see you there in the fall.  I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Just so you know, they will wait forever to release you from the list if you're not accepted off of it.  I think I was released mid-September last year...
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 08, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
I did some research on xo and found that several years ago, people got in off the waitlist as early as May. Dean Deal also made calls to people around that time to ask how interested they were.

Hmm...
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: bride2B on May 08, 2008, 11:51:28 AM
Well I guess that is encouraging.  From the wait list letter it seemed that Stanford doesn't waitlist that many people and they also don't rank them.  Then again the people they pull of the waitlist seems to depend a lot on what demographic turns down their offer.  Since it is such a small class I think they use the waitlist to diversify the class once people accept or decline admissions offers.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 11, 2008, 12:57:48 PM
I wonder if they'll accept anyone off the waitlist this month. They should know how their class is shaping up by now.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 11, 2008, 01:52:23 PM
Tag.

I heard that Stanford creates a class and then adjusts accordingly.  The demographic point sounds credited.

You riding out this waitlist too?
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on May 11, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
Tag.

I heard that Stanford creates a class and then adjusts accordingly.  The demographic point sounds credited.

You riding out this waitlist too?

Doesn't NYU require that you withdraw from all wait lists?
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 11, 2008, 04:05:26 PM
Tag.

I heard that Stanford creates a class and then adjusts accordingly.  The demographic point sounds credited.

You riding out this waitlist too?

Doesn't NYU require that you withdraw from all wait lists?

Nope.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: BABYCAKES on May 12, 2008, 02:59:21 PM
Does anyone have any information on Stanford's waitlist and how likely one is to be accepted off of the waitlist?  I know that SLS is conservative in its initial round of acceptances since it is such a small school.  I also know, based on LSN, that many of the admits and waitlist applicants to SLS are also already in at H or Y or CCN with $$.  I have thus far written a LOCI and sent in an additional LOR from the head of my firm's IP department and I am going to visit this weekend. 

Any advice from current SLS 1L's or other wait listed applicants would be much appreciated.  I would love to return to California (I attended undergrad in SoCal) and Stanford is pretty much as good as it gets in terms of IP and new media law-- my areas of interest.  Do I have any hope??
Good luck to you, I went to HLS and turnred down SLS because I am an East coast person.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on May 17, 2008, 12:13:54 AM
Well I guess that is encouraging.  From the wait list letter it seemed that Stanford doesn't waitlist that many people and they also don't rank them.  Then again the people they pull of the waitlist seems to depend a lot on what demographic turns down their offer.  Since it is such a small class I think they use the waitlist to diversify the class once people accept or decline admissions offers.

Every waitlist is ranked to some degree.  They don't just draw names out of hats.  True that some schools care about demographics--but looking at past years, it's clear that it's the high numbers demographic that S cares most about when tapping the WL (which isn't to suggest that it's the only concern--just the biggest).
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on May 17, 2008, 12:16:13 AM
Good luck to you  :D  With any luck I will see you there in the fall.  I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Just so you know, they will wait forever to release you from the list if you're not accepted off of it.  I think I was released mid-September last year...

Harvard's no different.  I even emailed them notice of withdrawal in mid-July.  They wanted a letter.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 17, 2008, 08:48:23 AM
Someone on TLS called and was told that they won't start taking people from the waitlist until late May/early June.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 19, 2008, 09:16:01 PM
I guess that means nothing this week. Maybe next week.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on May 22, 2008, 01:31:39 PM
I'm so antsy. You think next week? And how come there were no June admits from the WL last year?
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: .......2 on May 22, 2008, 01:37:58 PM
I'm so antsy. You think next week? And how come there were no June admits from the WL last year?

Me too. I know I shouldn't be getting my hopes up, but I can't help it.

And I have no idea why there were no June admits last year on LSN. Either there were none or none of them were on LSN.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: iceepop on May 22, 2008, 01:47:46 PM
I'm so antsy. You think next week? And how come there were no June admits from the WL last year?

Me too. I know I shouldn't be getting my hopes up, but I can't help it.

And I have no idea why there were no June admits last year on LSN. Either there were none or none of them were on LSN.


Hey, do you mind PM'ing me your LSAT and GPA?
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on May 29, 2008, 11:54:38 AM
so...it's late may...
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on May 29, 2008, 12:25:57 PM
Grades are sure to be history in near future, and the school has accepted at least one applicant off the WL.

I think July was the earliest anyone got in last year; lsders called and asked when folks would start to get in off the WL, and through June, the admissions office always indicated that the answer was "later, if at all."  Late start last year.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on May 29, 2008, 12:27:54 PM
Grades are sure to be history in near future, and the school has accepted at least one applicant off the WL.

I think July was the earliest anyone got in last year; lsders called and asked when folks would start to get in off the WL, and through June, the admissions office always indicated that the answer was "later, if at all."  Late start last year.

someone already got in off the wait list??? i was just being factitious!

any info on this mystery wait list person?
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on May 29, 2008, 01:28:49 PM
Grades are sure to be history in near future, and the school has accepted at least one applicant off the WL.

I think July was the earliest anyone got in last year; lsders called and asked when folks would start to get in off the WL, and through June, the admissions office always indicated that the answer was "later, if at all."  Late start last year.

someone already got in off the wait list??? i was just being factitious!

any info on this mystery wait list person?

I think the mystery person was well-qualified.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on May 29, 2008, 01:38:42 PM
Grades are sure to be history in near future, and the school has accepted at least one applicant off the WL.

I think July was the earliest anyone got in last year; lsders called and asked when folks would start to get in off the WL, and through June, the admissions office always indicated that the answer was "later, if at all."  Late start last year.

someone already got in off the wait list??? i was just being factitious!

any info on this mystery wait list person?

I think the mystery person was well-qualified.

I don't mean to be a pain in the ass, but what does that entail? I haven't seen any Wait List, Accept on LSN, so I was wondering who, if anyone, is getting in.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on May 29, 2008, 02:07:16 PM
Since the applicant was free to post about the acceptance here or put up a profile/updated profile on LSN and declined to do either, I don't feel at liberty to say anymore than I already have.  Just trying to be helpful; sorry I can't be more helpful.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: rabbit9198 on May 29, 2008, 06:13:52 PM
Stanford announced changes to the grading policy today:

From: Larry D Kramer
Date: Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Subject: Grade Reform
Dear All:

Yesterday afternoon, the faculty voted to adopt a grade reform proposal which will change our grading system to an honors, pass, restricted credit, no credit system for all semesters/quarters. The new system includes a shared norm for the proportion of honors to be awarded in both exam and paper courses. No grading system is perfect, but the consensus is that the reform will have significant pedagogical benefits, including that it encourages greater flexibility and innovation in the classroom and in designing metrics for evaluating student work.

As you may know, we spent all year studying the issue and discussing the likely advantages for recruiting students, placing our graduates in practice and clerkships, reducing the disparity between on-mean and off-mean courses, and, above all, enhancing the intellectual environment of the law school. I am extremely grateful for the student input we received, not only from the student liaison committee but from countless others who wrote emails, met with faculty, and spoke with me directly. We benefited immensely from your contributions.

Yesterday, the faculty agreed only on the basic proposal. We have not yet voted on the timing of our transition to the new system or a number of other details. For now, then, the decision does not and should not affect your course planning or anything else. We are working to settle the transition questions as quickly as possible and will inform you as soon as they have been resolved.

Best,
Larry


via ATL: http://abovethelaw.com/2008/05/stanford_law_school_approves_g.php
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on June 05, 2008, 08:51:45 AM
Bueller...Bueller...
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: QueenoftheCourt on June 05, 2008, 10:21:35 AM
In off the waitlist today...wow, that post about grades is REALLY wreaking havoc on me at the moment.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: ecureuil on June 05, 2008, 10:37:14 AM
Congrats! That's a hard (but enviable) choice between Harvard and Stanford!  :D
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on June 05, 2008, 10:51:53 AM
Congrats.  Right to form, though: extremely high number folks get off first.  Generally need relatively high numbers to get off regardless of timing.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on June 07, 2008, 07:18:13 AM
Congrats.  Right to form, though: extremely high number folks get off first.  Generally need relatively high numbers to get off regardless of timing.

So why wait list splitters or lower numbered people in the first place?
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on June 07, 2008, 08:03:34 AM
Congrats.  Right to form, though: extremely high number folks get off first.  Generally need relatively high numbers to get off regardless of timing.

So why wait list splitters or lower numbered people in the first place?

Couldn't tell you.  Take a look at LSN for the past few cycles and you'll see that that my perception appears to be reality.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: michigander on June 17, 2008, 12:53:25 PM
More waiting.
Title: Re: Stanford Waitlist
Post by: Max Fischer on July 01, 2008, 05:03:48 PM
At least a couple calls on the 2nd or 3rd last year.  Think those were the first waitlist admits last cycle, though, so Dean Deal might not have similar plans this year.