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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9720 on: August 07, 2009, 04:17:10 PM »
I won't yell at you, I promise!  ;)

it's not always about you, you know.  :P

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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9721 on: August 07, 2009, 04:28:05 PM »
I won't yell at you, I promise!  ;)

it's not always about you, you know.  :P

Something tells me I'm the only person around MAS who would yell at you for sexism.  Unless maybe Miss P. made another appearance.
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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9722 on: August 07, 2009, 04:37:44 PM »
I won't yell at you, I promise!  ;)

it's not always about you, you know.  :P

Something tells me I'm the only person around MAS who would yell at you for sexism.  Unless maybe Miss P. made another appearance.

the moment's passed, anyway.  my response will just have to remain in the magic box.

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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9723 on: August 07, 2009, 04:54:34 PM »

I can live with all these statements, though, with respect to the carte blanche business, I'd be very particular about whether the man has "insisted" on the arrangement or not.  If it's actually just how the relationship has developed (probably more common--"well, once we're married, I'll work at the firm for a couple more years then we'll have a family (i.e., I'm retiring, bitches!)"), then you're in a much different ballpark than "if we're married, you will not have a job and you will make our house your primary responsibility."

And as an aside, this whole "housework drudgery" stuff is something that I've never really bought.  I know that it's supposedly worth tens of thousands of dollars if you hired a maid to do every little thing, but I don't think I'll ever be convinced that doing laundry and going to the grocery store is as bad as, say, working biglaw.  As boring, maybe, but still.

Anyway, I'm all for simultaneous careers.  I was raised by nannies because Mom worked; fine by me.

(I just edited to add some things)

Indeed, you did.

See, the thing is, if it's actually how the relationship developed, I think it would then bother me more to be expected to show gratitude -- at least insofar as I might not have ever particularly wanted to stop working and have someone support me.  I.e., say it didn't make financial sense for the me to continue working because of relative income and the cost of day care, house cleaning, whatever services I needed.

I personally find maintaining a home to be very difficult and extremely time-consuming.  I mean, sure, laundry and groceries aren't terribly difficult but to really keep a place clean over time requires a lot of grunt work (I mean like scrubbing floors on your hands and knees type *&^%).  I'm not saying it's more difficult than Biglaw, but then again Biglaw is really it's own special hell.  The point, though, is that the typical attitude towards household chores is to devalue them, and I think that's in no small part a result of their traditional status as women's work.

In short, if you want to talk about gratitude in this arena, I think it's really easy to veer into "Oh look at me and my MANLY BIGLAW HARD JOB, I'm so important and life is so hard!  You womenz sit around gossiping and painting your toenails all day.  HOW DARE YOU CONTRADICT ME!" territory.
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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9724 on: August 07, 2009, 05:14:19 PM »
Unless maybe Miss P. made another appearance.

Oh, come now.  That seems extremely unlikely, doesn't it? ;)

ETA: Actually, I have no desire to yell at poor, beleaguered Stan.  He can consider MAS a special harpy-free zone where he can speak his mind, unlike the rest of the board where we endeavor to break him down at every turn.
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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9725 on: August 07, 2009, 05:17:56 PM »
Why is he friends with me if he doesn't like harpies?  :P
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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9726 on: August 07, 2009, 05:38:58 PM »
It took me like 3 whole minutes to figure out what on earth you were talking about in that post.
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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9727 on: August 08, 2009, 12:30:02 AM »
Why is he friends with me if he doesn't like harpies?  :P

it's part of a long-term plan to sell you insurance.

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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9728 on: August 09, 2009, 08:32:08 PM »
Oh you sneaky son of a female dog!
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Re: MAS: Welcomes Our New Socialist Overlord
« Reply #9729 on: August 10, 2009, 12:41:44 AM »
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