Law School Discussion

Which schools are right and left wing in the T1

saradsun

  • ****
  • 692
  • Off to Cali
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2007, 06:54:36 AM »
I find myself feeling quite fond of you this morning piggy.  ;)

MHLM

  • ****
  • 742
    • View Profile
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2007, 08:02:14 AM »
I find myself feeling quite fond of you this morning piggy.  ;)

Moi aussi.

Me three!

t...

  • ****
  • 2365
    • View Profile
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2007, 10:04:25 AM »
There is a significant minority of conservatives pretty much anywhere...Especially Columbia.  Columbia. 

I find this extremely hard to believe.


Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2007, 11:56:04 AM »


...Now in America we want to dialogue with evil dictators who begin their public speeches with chants like "Death to America" instead of blowing their ass off this planet (I mean what we really should do is TALK more with Iran, because they are obviously rational..

No we shoudl not respect free speech if its stupid! Laws shoudl eb followed based on whether we like them


No instead we throw our border guards in jail for trying to stop them from crossing...

But I like this law so let's follow it, no crossing the border!

... Now in America we put our soldiers on trial for being too rough on the terrorists they are interrogating. (After all we don't want to insult their culture by making them take their clothes off and pouring water on them....especially when they are sooo humane to those of us they catch...yes we should shut down Guantanamo and down play how they brutally torture, parade, and then behead our reporters and POW's on the internet.)

But I dont like the Geneva conventions relative to the treatment of prisoners of war (and if you think callign them enemy combatants helps, you obviously need to reread the conventions) so since the GC sucks don't follow this law!

...Yes, in America we champion the cause of humane treatment to all... as we fight for and applaud things like partial birth abortion (the baby is half out for f**k sake, and then the doctor kills it by sticking something in its head...I mean what sick individual dreamed that up. At that point why not at least give the baby up for adoption...That's right, the leftist agena is making America a better place...KILL BABIES! SAVE WHALES!)

Or this one, it sucks too!


You know i would LOVE to agree with you, but yoru inconsistency makes it impossible, i guess I am jsut too heavy on theory like all these other useless liberals, concerned about making sense and whatnot instead of fixing the world..

nealric

  • ****
  • 2248
  • a.k.a. Miguel Sanchez
    • View Profile
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2007, 12:02:14 PM »
Quote
You know why this is (that generally those who continue to educated themselves become sooo liberal)...because after the right wing thinkers get educated, they go out and make the world work and cause society to progress....leftists on the other hand soon realize after graduation that their paradigms and ideas are completely ridiculous in the real world, and so many of them retreat back in academia, and never wanting to leave they eventually become profs (well, some become transient weed smoking hippies who frequent green peace protests).

Yep, I bet all those commies who go get chemistry PHds are doing it so they can indoctrinate their future students with their liberal chemical ideals.
Seriously, only a small percentage of people with grad degrees teach at the university level.

Quote
...and now look what is happening in America... 
What exactly is happening to America that you are so upset about?

Quote

...Now in America we want to dialogue with evil dictators who begin their public speeches with chants like "Death to America" instead of blowing their ass off this planet (I mean what we really should do is TALK more with Iran, because they are obviously rational..

President Ahmadinejad, may be evil, but he is not actually the dictator. The Supreme Leader (Khamenei), has far more power. Ahmeninejad is closer to a vice president (or vice dictator as it may be). I agree that the government of Iran is  despotic, but despotic != irrational, and neither does incendiary rhetoric. In fact some scholars say that the death to america/Israel stuff is mostly done to divert peoples attention away from the fact that the Iranian government has done little to fix the economic situation as promised. They may be evil and say irrational things, but I think you conclude to quickly in saying that they must be irrational. Frankly, I am more afraid of a rational enemy than an irrational one.  If hitler had been rational, i think we would have been seriously screwed in WWII.

Quote
And we want to give illegal immigrants driver's licenses for goodness sake (eg.in NYC...you'd think since 9/11 was in NYC they would see the national security risk in doing something like this)

Actually, I would argue its better for national security to identify illegal immigrants. Would you rather the government have absolutely no idea who is in the country, or would you rather them have a record and a way of locating them?

Quote
as we fight for and applaud things like partial birth abortion (the baby is half out for f**k sake, and then the doctor kills it by sticking something in its head...I mean what sick individual dreamed that up. At that point why not at least give the baby up for adoption...That's right, the leftist agena is making America a better place.

While I too have serious ethical problems partial birth abortion (but I guess Im not really part of this 'leftist agenda' you speak of), I think there are two fairly rational reasons why some people support partial birth abortion.
1. They are afraid of the incremental banning of all abortions.
2. They worry about life of the mother issues. If it comes down to life of the child v. life of the mother, I think its rather cruel to tell the mother she should not have a choice between the two.

I know you are just ranting and angry, but I doubt that you have really thought through and researched your opinions. There are some smart (and often right) conservatives, just as there are some idiotic (and often wrong) liberals, but you should not just arbitrarily lump heterogeneous groups together and expect to speak with and sort of coherence. 

Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2007, 12:30:05 PM »
You know why this is (that generally those who continue to educated themselves become sooo liberal)...because after the right wing thinkers get educated, they go out and make the world work and cause society to progress....

Link?

http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/smi0bio-1

leftists on the other hand soon realize after graduation that their paradigms and ideas are completely ridiculous in the real world, and so many of them retreat back in academia, and never wanting to leave they eventually become profs

Link?

http://www.chomsky.info/

(well, some become transient weed smoking hippies who frequent green peace protests).

Link?

http://www.zmag.org/bios/homepage.cfm?authorID=62


Unfortunately what has happened is that while the pragmatic conservatives have been making this the greatest country in the world for the past few decades (like Reagan for example),

Link?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html


the leftists have done all but take over our universities and thereby have been able to proselytize a disproportionate percentage of young minds to adopt their liberal (and sometimes crazy ultra liberal) positions....

Link?

http://www.amazon.com/God-Man-Yale-William-Buckley/dp/089526692X

http://www.amazon.com/Illiberal-Education-Politics-Race-Campus/dp/0684863847/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-6545599-2005421?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194290365&sr=1-1

and now look what is happening in America...

Link?

http://www.americanidol.com/

...Now in America we want to dialogue with evil dictators who begin their public speeches with chants like "Death to America" instead of blowing their ass off this planet

Oooh.  Violence!

Link to where violence works?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/dday/


(I mean what we really should do is TALK more with Iran, because they are obviously rational...and then if that doesn't work maybe we can just take another vote at the UN the problem will simply go away)

Link to where talking doesn't work?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/dday/

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ER7&q=peace+in+the+middle+east&btnG=Search

Would if we would have handled Hitler this way?

::declines to invoke Godwin's Law::

...And we want to give illegal immigrants driver's licenses for goodness sake (eg.in NYC...you'd think since 9/11 was in NYC they would see the national security risk in doing something like this)

Link to where it's not a good thing that all people will be identified?

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/gen/14898res20030908.html

instead of doing the obvious and sending them home so they can wait in line with all the law abiding people who are going through proper channels to get into America.

Cost of sending 13 million people "home"?  Economic detriment to you and me of sending 13 million people "home"?  Link for both?

No link available.  No one knows.

(I mean, seriously, cost of sending almost 5% of the people in the US "home"?  Give me a link.  Or make up numbers.  Now.)


No instead we throw our border guards in jail for trying to stop them from crossing...

Only if they unlawfully shoot people.  Idiot.  See generally, Blackwater.

http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/01/new_bill_could_pardon_border_p.html



as we fight for and applaud things like partial birth abortion (the baby is half out for f**k sake, and then the doctor kills it by sticking something in its head...I mean what sick individual dreamed that up. At that point why not at least give the baby up for adoption...That's right, the leftist agena is making America a better place...KILL BABIES! SAVE WHALES!)

Deal.   Kill Iranians!  Kill Iraqis!  Kill muslems!  Oh.  Wait.  I forgot logic somewhere back there...

Also, link to where we prefer whales over babies?

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/laws/esa/



nealric

  • ****
  • 2248
  • a.k.a. Miguel Sanchez
    • View Profile
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2007, 12:48:36 PM »
The earth is flat!

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

I have a link! It must be true!

jimfoolery

  • ****
  • 1521
  • Bo knows.
    • View Profile
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2007, 02:25:00 PM »
It stinks like ass in this thread.

t...

  • ****
  • 2365
    • View Profile
Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2007, 02:27:15 PM »
There is a significant minority of conservatives pretty much anywhere...Especially Columbia.  Columbia. 

I find this extremely hard to believe.



Really?  Anecdotally I'd say it was 20% or so. 

That's interesting.

But how are you deciding someone's politics? I'm sure that quite a few could give two shits about most issues political.

Re: Which schools are right and left wing in the T1
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2007, 03:07:20 PM »
There is a significant minority of conservatives pretty much anywhere...Especially Columbia.  Columbia. 

I find this extremely hard to believe.



Really?  Anecdotally I'd say it was 20% or so. 

That's interesting.

But how are you deciding someone's politics? I'm sure that quite a few could give two shits about most issues political.

That's definitely true.  I'd say it's something like, 50-60% liberal, 10-15% pretty conservative, the rest apathetic, probably leaning more conservative on economic issues and liberal on social issues.  This is based mostly on conversations and class discussions.  These sorts of things do come up quite a bit; law students are probably more inclined to have opinions on these issues than others.