Quote from: Big Boy Pants on December 17, 2008, 10:57:24 AMNo offense, but I think I prefer theor's version of Chicago to Freely's. It sounds like a better school.That's fine, but you should just be aware that it's false, and by all indications theor's a nutjob (sorry theor).
No offense, but I think I prefer theor's version of Chicago to Freely's. It sounds like a better school.
theor's post was a little over the top, but, to be honest, i have fallen in love with uchicago this quarter for a lot of the reasons he refers to. I think, quite frequently, about how lucky I am to be here.Also, I'm not that knowledgeable about faculty and people leaving, but we got to read a lot of (current) faculty scholarship this quarter, and it is truly impressive.
I like your style. You do go to the best school in the country. I don't buy into relativism or critical education theory, I believe I am right.
Perhaps It is a symptom of trying a lot of cases, but you don't get any credibility in court for saying "our position is pretty good your honor, but only for us, theirs is pretty good for them, and others are entitled to their opinions, I guess."
I've done the research. I've seen the products of other law schools. Some fine lawyers, mostly god awful ones, even ones that graduate with honors. There is nothing particularly wrong with the pedagogies of other schools, I know plenty of people who went to those schools (and a family member, for that matter). They simply do not contend with Chicago. The Chicago alumni I've seen in the field are, bar none, the best, and I've seen quite a few as opposing counsel and as judges. I can confidently say I believe everything I've said here truly, which confidence can only be expressed at times by soaring rhetoric and imagery.
Try and find that kind of enthusiasm in a Harvard Grad. Hell, I challenge you to find a Harvard Law grad who isn't ashamed to wear a shirt that says "Harvard Law" on it.
I happen to be privy Harvard Law alumni magazines from time to time. Despite its large size and alumni network, it has less than half the responses Chicago's has, and with far fewer entries from people who actually practice and show passion for the law. I find it quite sad actually.
You can disagree with my assessment of Chicago Law and its alumni, but that doesn't make my claim any less legitimate. By a harvard alum's account, at his orientation they said, "Welcome to the best law school in the world." I bet they say something to that effect at Yale and Stanford, too, and probably several other schools. They aren't all ranked #1 in USNews. They don't all place the best in every field. My claims aren't all based on this kind of data, but rather something less tangible but real nonetheless, which I have described at length above. All these schools can legitimately claim to be the best because they have their strengths which they are free to value as they wish-and so can Chicago. I happen to agree with Chicago's assessment of what makes great lawyers. I can make that case fervently and with honesty and integrity. It isn't idiotic, it doesn't make me mentally ill, and I am not wrong.
Not saying it's inconsistent with Chicago being the best school and producing the best lawyers....but weren't you the one who created the thread a while back complaining about your time at UChicago....among other things, talking about the mean ol' ivy league kids and their secret societies. It seems like you have a weird obsession/agenda about bashing Harvard and Yale....jsia.