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Meliss1086

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Confused about how URM works
« on: October 16, 2007, 12:57:42 PM »
Forgive me if there's already a good thread on this subject.

What constitutes an Under-represented Minority?

It is about race? country of origin? ethnicity? nationality?

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2007, 01:22:45 PM »
Thanks so much, MBW.
I really needed a straight forward answer because I keep reading that it can be "whatever you want it to be" and opinions to that effect. I have a somewhat unique situation where I'm foreign-born, but white, so I guess my "whiteness" disqualifies me.  I'll just write a diversity statement to explain that aspect.

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2007, 01:42:22 PM »
"Officially", it's rather simple - African-American, Latino and American Indian/Native American.

However, for many schools, it's much more nuanced than that, where some Asians (Filipinos, Hmong and Vietnamese) are included, and some URMs, Cubans, non-tribal-affiliated NDNs, are discounted.

I suspect it may get a lot more interesting under the newly instituted changes to the ABA Standard 211, which requires all law schools to provide evidence of diversity programs in order to be (or remain) accredited.

Are Filipino's really under-represented in higher education statisically speaking?  I grew up in an area with a large Filipino population and I would have thought they'd be over-represented if anything.

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2007, 03:31:58 PM »
"Officially", it's rather simple - African-American, Latino and American Indian/Native American.

Officially, it doesn't really exist.

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2007, 03:38:56 PM »
I am 6'6", 240 lbs.  Does that count as URM?  I'm also slightly balding if that helps...
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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2007, 03:42:49 PM »
Can someone explain to me why women are not URM's most schools have less than 49% women enrolled...how can they not be URMs? ??? Until genders are 50/50 aren't they underrepresented?

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2007, 03:52:01 PM »
Can someone explain to me why women are not URM's most schools have less than 49% women enrolled...how can they not be URMs? ??? Until genders are 50/50 aren't they underrepresented?

What does the M stand for in URM  ;)

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2007, 03:53:54 PM »
hehee good pt.  ;D    This is why I will not be breaking a 170.

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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2007, 04:06:03 PM »
Can someone explain to me why women are not URM's most schools have less than 49% women enrolled...how can they not be URMs? ??? Until genders are 50/50 aren't they underrepresented?

I've heard from a former adcomm that sometimes schools struggle to admit a more gender balanced class, so women can get a teeny boost at top schools. But it's a feather on the scale kind of thing.
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Re: Confused about how URM works
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2007, 04:42:15 PM »
Can someone explain to me why women are not URM's most schools have less than 49% women enrolled...how can they not be URMs? ??? Until genders are 50/50 aren't they underrepresented?

I've heard from a former adcomm that sometimes schools struggle to admit a more gender balanced class, so women can get a teeny boost at top schools. But it's a feather on the scale kind of thing.

And women across all ethnic and racial groups score on average 2 points below men on the LSATs.  So women often do get that boost due in part to that discrepancy.

Where did you hear/read that? Have admissions officers actually indicated that that's the case?