Law School Discussion

Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« on: September 13, 2007, 11:44:25 PM »
From "Light the Lamp!": The monthly newsletter of the Holy Flame Pentecostal Church of Little Rock, Ark.

We welcome back to the area Senator Hillary Clinton (D., N.Y.), who has been spending so much time here in Little Rock lately that she's practically joined the church choir! "I'm here spending time at my husband's library," she told the Lamp when we caught up with her after a Sunday camp meeting, "and of course, I always take time to worship God in as evangelical a way as is feasible, given time and location constraints. As you know, I consider myself an evangelical Christian, really a Christian conservative, if you want to know the truth, so it's nice to be 'home' again in the South, which I really consider my quote-unquote home even though I live in New York most of the time. Well, Washington, D.C., most of the time, actually, but if I'm not there I'm in New York, of course, but always thinking about being here, in the South, my spiritual home, where I shared so many wonderful evangelical . . . moments and . . . events. Can you read that back to me?" The "Light the Lamp!" staff would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Christ loves all of us equally, and that God's house is open to all, even to senators from New York, so whoever is muttering stuff and saying mean things while pretending to cough can just quit it right now.

The "Light the Lamp!" staff would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Christ loves all of us equally, and that God's house is open to all, even to senators from New York, so whoever is muttering stuff and saying mean things while pretending to cough can just quit it right now.
















hmm?


Butters Stotch

  • ****
  • 769
  • Well you can all just go to heck.
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2007, 01:48:00 AM »
God DAMN you're obsessed, blew warrior!

Does she strike THAT much fear in you???



Elephant Lee

  • ****
  • 4664
  • Maybe ju an' me are amigos!
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 11:16:51 AM »
How many times have you posted this? That church still doesn't exist. It's satire, nitwit.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200411240003?f=i_related

So...this debunking is from 2004 and you're still posting this crap. Why? Because it's still circling around the blogosphere--the cousin of dumbshit email forwards--and the main source for what you regurgitate here.

Julie Fern

  • *****
  • 25797
  • hillary clinton say "boo!"
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 04:54:32 PM »
bluecoward suffer several dozen sharp blows to head.

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 09:08:20 PM »
How many times have you posted this? That church still doesn't exist. It's satire, nitwit.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200411240003?f=i_related

So...this debunking is from 2004 and you're still posting this crap. Why? Because it's still circling around the blogosphere--the cousin of dumbshit email forwards--and the main source for what you regurgitate here.



just reminding folks that if they don't like bush...voting for clinton will give them more to cry over...

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 09:11:14 PM »
While campaigning in Iowa on July 4th, Hillary Clinton loudly proclaimed the following regarding the question of Iraq:




"If this President (Bush) will not end our involvement in Iraq - when I become President- I will".

But is Hillary telling the truth? Unfortunately not. She was lying through her teeth in Iowa. I'm surprised that her pants didn't catch on fire! In fact, none of the main candidates are being honest with the American people on the issue of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. They know that plans call for a long-term, "enduring" U.S. troop presence in Iraq. Hillary Clinton herself even acknowledged that she was a liar on this issue.

As I noted in a blog entry a few weeks ago, (and as Ted Koppel points out in a great NPR piece) Hillary knows full well that U.S. troops will likely be in Iraq long term (for decades). She is pulling the heart strings of the American people with these continuous campaign slogans lies, in order to get votes. Behind the scenes Hillary is telling her advisers (and acknowledging) that she knows that U.S. troops will have to be in Iraq for years to come, even until the end of her second term as President if she were elected. Yet she is telling the public something different-- that she would end U.S. involvement in Iraq-- allowing the American people to be misled. And no one is challenging her on the lies.

These candidates (Republican and Democrat) and members of Congress are not leveling with the public on the issue of a withdrawal. They keep talking about ending our involvement in Iraq, in order to get votes, when they know the long term plans say otherwise.

The same way that they took advantage of public ignorance to get us into Iraq, is the same way that they are taking advantage of public ignorance to stay there, but then boldly lie to the people about pulling American troops out. And Americans are swallowing this lie hook, line and sinker. The way that Americans are just accepting it is more troubling than the lie itself.

When will Hillary (or any of the other candidates) decide to begin telling the American people the truth?

Keep in mind... Koppel stated that Hillary was careful with her words in his June 11th piece. Suggesting that she didn't expect all troops to be withdrawn under her leadership. But fast forward to her July 4th statement in Iowa (qouted above), and you can see that she said "ending our involvement", which to me means withdrawing all of our forces and ending the war. Listen to the Koppel piece again. Her Iowa proclamation was clearly a bold faced lie. She didn't play with her words. When will someone in the mainstream media gather up enough courage to call her on it? I know that members of the mainstream press are spineless.... but there has to be one among them somewhere who can step up to the plate.




http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5Sva8GGep7IJ:mirroronamerica.blogspot.com/2007/07/hillary-clinton-caught-lying-again.html+hillary+clinton+is+lying&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 10:32:35 PM »
yes...I remember now...it was in was in 1973...a quiet warm august evening...one of our saturday evenings out on the town...my future wife and I...we were joking about world affairs and she asked me how I felt about torturing prisoners to get vital information...if it was of world importance...some real james bond stuff...I chuckled...I said YES and She said NO...She told me that there was a way to get meaningful information through a means of intimidation without torture applied...Perhaps...but I still say Yes to torture...She still says NO.

She and I always differ on this topic...


shucks...it goes over like a bar-b-q of burgers at cocktail parties...
everybody loves our party trick.601


-Wert Plantirz

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 11:41:58 PM »
is someone promising to keep the troops in iraq until the end of her first term IF she were elected president...really...no...rea lly? ...really...no...really.

non parata est

  • ****
  • 1002
  • buh??
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2007, 11:45:20 PM »
is someone promising to keep the troops in iraq until the end of her first term IF she were elected president...really...no...rea lly? ...really...no...really.
Does it bother you that no-one can ever understand what the @#!* you're saying?

! B L U E WAR R I O R..!

  • *****
  • 7267
  • "make a friend who was once a stranger" br.war.
    • View Profile
Re: Senator Hillary Clinton is Lying?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 12:27:08 PM »
oh, but they do. ;)

how long do you think hillary would keep the troops in iraq?




is someone promising to keep the troops in iraq until the end of her first term IF she were elected president...really...no...rea lly? ...really...no...really.
Does it bother you that no-one can ever understand what the @#!* you're saying?