That's cool how you referenced a case.
I'm so far from the end of my tether right now that I reckon I could knit myself some socks with the slack.
"AA actually hurts thost students it's supposed to help." Interesting.
Quote from: Lindbergh on August 31, 2007, 04:57:56 AM"AA actually hurts thost students it's supposed to help." Interesting.So you read the press release? The idea of my posting the report was that people could discuss its content intelligently instead of trading in slogans. Thanks.
I listened to the clip you included, and that's what the NPR lady said. I later read the release, which is more inconclusive in its findings.
Quote from: Lindbergh on August 31, 2007, 05:01:24 PMI listened to the clip you included, and that's what the NPR lady said. I later read the release, which is more inconclusive in its findings. You know, Lindbergh, you're very demanding of others in terms of the quality of their reasoning and evidence. I expect you to at least read the executive summary of a report before posting your commentary on it.
I think that the data should be made available for statistical analysis. It seems like it would be in both sides' interest to know if there are problems with the current system. I found the response from the NAACP kind of surprising. If they believe the current system is not comprehensive enough then knowing the system is flawed fits in with that.
You didn't post a response; you parroted a line from the introduction to a radio program.
The report is largely uncritical of Sander (no second S), it's true. I happen to believe this is political given the makeup of the commission and the testimony on the record refuting his claims.
Nonetheless, you're right, my expectations are irrelevant.
You really should read some of the responses to Sander, the copious research on the impact of racial segregation in public schools and other community-wide disadvantages some URMs face (regardless of individual household wealth and income), and something about stereotype threat beyond that one Amy Wax column.
I, for one, will take you more seriously after that.
I don't find the repetition of the same hackneyed phrases about "fairness" and "merit" very interesting.
You also may want to consider that there are reasons for diversifying law school classrooms beyond the individual concerns of each applicant. (Among those Grutter considered was Michigan's desire to have enough members of different minority groups that no conscientious member of the class would be able to develop stereotypes about those groups.
To this end, admitting a very diverse group of black students -- African American, from elsewhere in the African diaspora, African; rich, poor, middle class -- makes perfect sense.)