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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #90 on: July 14, 2007, 10:58:52 PM »
Tag... if I feel like it, I'll come back and repeat what I've said before about why our system is pretty good... Not perfect, but closer to it than Socialism.
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« Reply #91 on: July 14, 2007, 11:09:36 PM »
Tag... if I feel like it, I'll come back and repeat what I've said before about why our system is pretty good... Not perfect, but closer to it than Socialism.

will be waiting to hear this.
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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #92 on: July 14, 2007, 11:50:21 PM »
First installment:

"According to Statistics Canada, approximately 1.2 million Canadians lack a family doctor and are looking for one. Others seek more urgent care. Toronto was shaken recently when the media reported that a retired hockey legend was forced to wait more than a month for life-saving chemotherapy because of a bed shortage at the largest cancer hospital in the country. American companies now routinely advertise in major Canadian dailies, offering timely health care—in the United States. No wonder that, a few years back, more than 80 percent of Canadians rated the system 'in crisis.'"
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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #93 on: July 15, 2007, 12:41:57 AM »
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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #94 on: July 15, 2007, 01:19:51 AM »
michael moore is trying to steal your money for food...

his movies suck...fabricated crap.
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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2007, 02:24:25 AM »
First installment:

"According to Statistics Canada, approximately 1.2 million Canadians lack a family doctor and are looking for one. Others seek more urgent care. Toronto was shaken recently when the media reported that a retired hockey legend was forced to wait more than a month for life-saving chemotherapy because of a bed shortage at the largest cancer hospital in the country. American companies now routinely advertise in major Canadian dailies, offering timely health care—in the United States. No wonder that, a few years back, more than 80 percent of Canadians rated the system 'in crisis.'"

Almost 50 million without health insurance. Meaning almost 50 million that can't pay for care, not just that they aren't able to find a doctor.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhis/earlyrelease/insur200706.pdf

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« Reply #96 on: July 15, 2007, 02:47:28 AM »
michael moore is trying to steal your money for food...

his movies suck...fabricated crap.
have you even seen Sicko?
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« Reply #97 on: July 15, 2007, 04:17:35 AM »
First installment:

"According to Statistics Canada, approximately 1.2 million Canadians lack a family doctor and are looking for one. Others seek more urgent care. Toronto was shaken recently when the media reported that a retired hockey legend was forced to wait more than a month for life-saving chemotherapy because of a bed shortage at the largest cancer hospital in the country. American companies now routinely advertise in major Canadian dailies, offering timely health care—in the United States. No wonder that, a few years back, more than 80 percent of Canadians rated the system 'in crisis.'"

Firstly, The Manhattan Institute, to which you derive this information, is major right-wing think tank. Secondly, I fail to see how "1.2 million Canadians not being able to find a family doctor" is indicative of a problem with socialized medicine. It would seem there is a problem with recruitment into the health profession.

Most importantly, however, the article convienently leaves out that the same statistical source (Statistics Canada) reports that 84.9% of Canadians were either "very satisfied" or "somewhat satisfied" with overall health care servies in 2003 and 84.4% in 2000-01. <http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/Collection/H21-206-2004E.pdf> (page 19)
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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #98 on: July 15, 2007, 04:24:00 AM »
First installment:

"According to Statistics Canada, approximately 1.2 million Canadians lack a family doctor and are looking for one. Others seek more urgent care. Toronto was shaken recently when the media reported that a retired hockey legend was forced to wait more than a month for life-saving chemotherapy because of a bed shortage at the largest cancer hospital in the country. American companies now routinely advertise in major Canadian dailies, offering timely health care—in the United States. No wonder that, a few years back, more than 80 percent of Canadians rated the system 'in crisis.'"
According to Businessweek the US doesn't fare to well against other industrialized countries (besides Canada) when it comes to wait times.  Link (which i got off MM's website):http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2007/tc20070621_716260_page_2.htm

"81% of patients in New Zealand got a same or next-day appointment for a nonroutine visit, 71% in Britain, 69% in Germany, 66% in Australia, 47% in the U.S., and 36% in Canada."


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Re: Michael Moore v. CNN
« Reply #99 on: July 15, 2007, 04:41:39 AM »
michael moore is trying to steal your money for food...

his movies suck...fabricated crap.
have you even seen Sicko?

my favorite part is when he mimics the advertisement on the back of a pack of cigarettes which reads: "If you REALLY want to quit."

you know...moore resorts to tokenism by helping out some poor sap who was one of his on-line critics...

...ya ya...we know, man...moore is good with the soft target marketing gimicks...blah blah blah...elect ralph nader..or get one of the democratic candidates hands out of the drug companies pockets...


...he was cute, once...but his one minute of fame...marked against his bloating exterior...and the columbine and wtc  victims families...reflect a karm-like resolve...


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