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I hate cooley

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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2007, 09:15:52 AM »
i noticed a few other things too:

1) they use number of faculty as a factor, and they also use student-faculty ratio as a separate factor. what a bunch of crap, the only reason they used total # of faculty is because they have a ton of students and so they have to have a ton of faculty. i would be willing to bet a lot of money that the dudes who made the stupid ranking system knew that and purposely did that. oh and their student to faculty ratio is horrible, its like 24 to 1. idiots.

2) i was curious about their attrition rate so i went to the aba official guide and do you know what their FIRST year attrition rate is? TWENTY FIVE PERCENT!! close to 500 students drop out during the first year of law school. call me crazy, but that's bad. and that doesn't even include the 2nd, 3rd and 4th year attrition. granted, they aren't as bad, but still. the other thing is that half of those first year attrition people left for academic reasons!! so either the people that go there are morons and can't maintain good grades or the administration is so dumb that they use this crazy curving system and purposely fail out 1/8th of the class. i am seriously dumbfounded.

3) what makes it worse, is that they claim to be a top 16 school...or top 4 or whatever, i can't even keep it straight anymore.

edit: 4) their bar passage rate is like 50% too, if only half of your students pass the bar, you are not a top 20 school...

Isn't twenty-five percent 1/4?


As noted, there's apparently 25% (1/4) attrition (dropouts generally), with 1/2 of that (1/8th) academic attrition, or forced dropouts.

I've also heard that with 2nd / 3rd year attrition, only about 1/3 of entering students ever end up graduating. However, it's not clear how much of that is forced, and how much is simply people realizing the investment isn't worthwhile for them.

maybe they all think they brad pitt and go africa adopt child so can boink angelina jolie.

Julie Fern

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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2007, 09:41:37 AM »
maybe they all think they brad pitt and go africa adopt child so can boink angelina jolie.

no they don't, shut up julie. next time come up with something intelligent instead of irrelevant personal attacks.


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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2007, 10:08:37 AM »
she could go to cooley...

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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2007, 10:54:16 AM »
she could go to cooley...

hahaha!  you xoxos crack julie up.

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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2007, 11:14:47 AM »
Good sense of humor though  :)

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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2007, 11:20:07 AM »
not let cavegirl talk fool ya.

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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2007, 10:55:02 PM »
i noticed a few other things too:

1) they use number of faculty as a factor, and they also use student-faculty ratio as a separate factor. what a bunch of crap, the only reason they used total # of faculty is because they have a ton of students and so they have to have a ton of faculty. i would be willing to bet a lot of money that the dudes who made the stupid ranking system knew that and purposely did that. oh and their student to faculty ratio is horrible, its like 24 to 1. idiots.

2) i was curious about their attrition rate so i went to the aba official guide and do you know what their FIRST year attrition rate is? TWENTY FIVE PERCENT!! close to 500 students drop out during the first year of law school. call me crazy, but that's bad. and that doesn't even include the 2nd, 3rd and 4th year attrition. granted, they aren't as bad, but still. the other thing is that half of those first year attrition people left for academic reasons!! so either the people that go there are morons and can't maintain good grades or the administration is so dumb that they use this crazy curving system and purposely fail out 1/8th of the class. i am seriously dumbfounded.

3) what makes it worse, is that they claim to be a top 16 school...or top 4 or whatever, i can't even keep it straight anymore.

edit: 4) their bar passage rate is like 50% too, if only half of your students pass the bar, you are not a top 20 school...

Isn't twenty-five percent 1/4?


As noted, there's apparently 25% (1/4) attrition (dropouts generally), with 1/2 of that (1/8th) academic attrition, or forced dropouts.

I've also heard that with 2nd / 3rd year attrition, only about 1/3 of entering students ever end up graduating. However, it's not clear how much of that is forced, and how much is simply people realizing the investment isn't worthwhile for them.

maybe they all think they brad pitt and go africa adopt child so can boink angelina jolie.


This is actually pretty funny.


julie make funny!   :D

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Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2007, 09:28:44 AM »

maybe they all think they brad pitt and go africa adopt child so can boink angelina jolie.


This is actually pretty funny.

not to angie.

Re: I hate cooley
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2007, 11:04:30 AM »
Quit your bitching. Be thankful that they gave you a chance to get a JD when no other school would. And if you're so unhappy, transfer.