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Gtown vs T14

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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2007, 01:33:58 PM »
Thanks for the comments. You do realize this is about to turn into a Gtown question thread. Hopefully you don't mind being charitable. Anyway, what kind of luck do 1Ls have finding summer positions? Also, with Gtown attracting loads of talented and smart students what separates the great ones from the bad and whats separates the marginal from the great??

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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2007, 01:53:33 PM »
I'm glad to answer any questions about Georgetown. I went in blind - didn't know anyone who had gone to GULC, and it would have been nice to have been able to ask questions.

I don't know much about the 1L job hunt, because I'm an evening student and already work full time during the day. I do know that a fair amount of people got summer firm jobs. That's why your first-semester grades are so damn important.

In terms of what differentiates the great students from the not so great? You know, I'm really not sure. One thing I can tell you for sure: you can NOT judge a person's performance on exams by the quality of their class participation. If anything, the people who talk the most are the least informed (this is a plea to all 0L's to NOT become gunners). I guess the one major differentiator is work ethic. There are plenty of students who treat it as a three-year extension of college - bar every night, IMing during class, etc. Unlike undergrad, your grades in law school mean EVERYTHING. Don't be a jerk and be relaxed, but you do have to take it seriously and study harder than you ever have before.

Thanks for the comments. You do realize this is about to turn into a Gtown question thread. Hopefully you don't mind being charitable. Anyway, what kind of luck do 1Ls have finding summer positions? Also, with Gtown attracting loads of talented and smart students what separates the great ones from the bad and whats separates the marginal from the great??

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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2007, 02:13:40 PM »
What is your study schedule? Can you provide the approximate study schedule of someone you know that performed well beit full time or part time for anectdotal sake. I am 28 and am assuming you are mid to late 20s with that being said is the culture of the school severely lacking a mature element? Have you spent anytime in OCI? If so are there in-house counsel opportunities.

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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2007, 04:30:23 PM »
This study schedule worked very well for me as an evening student working full time: every weekday, I studied for an hour or two in the morning before work. And then I studied about 8-10 hours/Saturday and Sunday.
There is a contingent of immature students who act like they're at a three-year frat party. But that's a small number. Most are very interesting and friendly and mature.
In-house counsel jobs are pretty rare in general for students straight out of school. You usually should get a few years' experience at a firm and then switch over to in-house.

What is your study schedule? Can you provide the approximate study schedule of someone you know that performed well beit full time or part time for anectdotal sake. I am 28 and am assuming you are mid to late 20s with that being said is the culture of the school severely lacking a mature element? Have you spent anytime in OCI? If so are there in-house counsel opportunities.

Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2007, 09:38:20 PM »
The easy way to avoid this problem is to get into the top half of the class. And if you're in the top third, you'll have no problem getting DC Biglaw.





Or you could just to to UVa, have less competition, and have better job prospects.
You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.

Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2007, 11:25:55 PM »
this thread is approved.

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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2007, 05:55:19 AM »

You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.

First off, let me note how hard it is for me not to make a snotty anti-FSU comment here.  :-X

Second, I think your reasons for being anxious about UVA are unfounded. You can't go wrong choosing UVA.

That said:


5.  If you have the numbers for UVa, you should be looking at HYS.




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Go Gators.  ;)

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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2007, 07:09:45 AM »
The easy way to avoid this problem is to get into the top half of the class. And if you're in the top third, you'll have no problem getting DC Biglaw.





Or you could just to to UVa, have less competition, and have better job prospects.
You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.


A few points:

1.  The confederacy has been dead for about 140 years
As someone born and raised in the South I would submit to you that there still is plenty of residual smoke that came out of the forest fire called the civil war.
2.  Florida was also part of the confederacy
As someone who currently lives in Virginia I can assure you that Florida particularly the central region is far more tolerant
3   Jefferson, while admirable, was a slaveowner from that slave state.
I am will aware of that fact and have been since I declared him one of my personal heroes. Having said that, living in a society that was saturated in hypocrisy (i.e. Christian’s slave ownership and witch hunts) and breaking out of that paradigm took some courage. Courage/Bravery and morals are two different things. In this case, morals are releasing your slaves. Courage/Bravery is becoming an activist for the slave. Jefferson eventually realized the hypocrisy/contradiction he bored and became instrumental (more so than any other figure to my knowledge) in the fight for freedom and equality of slaves. It’s funny that such a great man had so many inner demons infidelity, views on interracial marriage…etc, but I guess that is true of any great leader. Hell, it has even been postulated that Christ killed a man in his adolescence.

4.  UVa's football team isn't bad, especially compared to the rest of the east coast teams.

UVa's is in the ACC homey and they catch hell each and every year. But mark my word FSU will be back for the 07 football season

5.  If you have the numbers for UVa, you should be looking at HYS.

My GPA is too low


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Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2007, 07:12:11 AM »

You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.

First off, let me note how hard it is for me not to make a snotty anti-FSU comment here.  :-X

Second, I think your reasons for being anxious about UVA are unfounded. You can't go wrong choosing UVA.

That said:


5.  If you have the numbers for UVa, you should be looking at HYS.




TITCR


Go Gators.  ;)


By the way, if you dont think I am jealous of your GATORS dominating OSU in both football and basketball you got another thing coming. Damn, what a jewel of a season. I was routing for you guys though, sh!t like that happens once in a lifetime.

Re: Gtown vs T14
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2007, 07:20:36 AM »

You know what, I would consider going to UVa because I have the numbers, but being a Black man I am a little apprehensive about going to a school in Charlottesville, VA.
Don't get me wrong UVa is the sh*t. Despite its deplorable location in the confederacy. I as a bleeding heart liberal/(slash)/political junkee have such an infatuation, admiration and respect for Thomas Jefferson that I would be willing to face what ever potential prejudices I may encounter to attend a university that one of my idols founded. Plus coming from Florida State country UVA has a piss poor football and basketball program, but thats neither here nor there.

First off, let me note how hard it is for me not to make a snotty anti-FSU comment here.  :-X

Second, I think your reasons for being anxious about UVA are unfounded. You can't go wrong choosing UVA.

That said:


5.  If you have the numbers for UVa, you should be looking at HYS.




TITCR


Go Gators.  ;)


i disagree with the bolded wrt marcusbarnes being a black applicant.