Quote from: MahlerGrooves on July 22, 2007, 08:20:24 PMMy response is somewhat "too simple." My family was not here during slavery. My family came in the 1930s as poor Sicilian immigrants who had nothing and wanted just a small bit of something. They never stepped on anyone or prevented anyone from doing anything because they had nothing - they were the downtrodden.Why should I, then, have to bare the burden of rectifying some large scale racism of which I - and my family - was never a part? Why must I constantly hear only that one justification to AA: that it rectifies past discrimination? Even people who think AA is a great thing need to realize that not all of our families were here to hurt yours at that time. Mine was making wine in Sicily - they didn't have slaves, they didn;t even have a house as one would recognize one.I realize there was a systematic demoralization and abuse of certain people in early America. I realize it was NOT fair. But show me one person who descends from a slave family and I will support his admission over he who was from a slaveholding family. Aside from that, I find it hard to swallow a pill that makes me - whose family was not here until 1934 (and whose family faced "Italians Need Not Apply" signs when they got here) - "responsible" for enslaving people in eighteenth and nineteenth century Georgia.Affirmative Action also promotes women and other minorites as well...you do realize that black people are the only ones?
My response is somewhat "too simple." My family was not here during slavery. My family came in the 1930s as poor Sicilian immigrants who had nothing and wanted just a small bit of something. They never stepped on anyone or prevented anyone from doing anything because they had nothing - they were the downtrodden.Why should I, then, have to bare the burden of rectifying some large scale racism of which I - and my family - was never a part? Why must I constantly hear only that one justification to AA: that it rectifies past discrimination? Even people who think AA is a great thing need to realize that not all of our families were here to hurt yours at that time. Mine was making wine in Sicily - they didn't have slaves, they didn;t even have a house as one would recognize one.I realize there was a systematic demoralization and abuse of certain people in early America. I realize it was NOT fair. But show me one person who descends from a slave family and I will support his admission over he who was from a slaveholding family. Aside from that, I find it hard to swallow a pill that makes me - whose family was not here until 1934 (and whose family faced "Italians Need Not Apply" signs when they got here) - "responsible" for enslaving people in eighteenth and nineteenth century Georgia.
Quote from: MahlerGrooves on July 22, 2007, 08:20:24 PMMy response is somewhat "too simple." My family was not here during slavery. My family came in the 1930s as poor Sicilian immigrants who had nothing and wanted just a small bit of something. They never stepped on anyone or prevented anyone from doing anything because they had nothing - they were the downtrodden.Why should I, then, have to bare the burden of rectifying some large scale racism of which I - and my family - was never a part? Why must I constantly hear only that one justification to AA: that it rectifies past discrimination? Even people who think AA is a great thing need to realize that not all of our families were here to hurt yours at that time. Mine was making wine in Sicily - they didn't have slaves, they didn;t even have a house as one would recognize one.I realize there was a systematic demoralization and abuse of certain people in early America. I realize it was NOT fair. But show me one person who descends from a slave family and I will support his admission over he who was from a slaveholding family. Aside from that, I find it hard to swallow a pill that makes me - whose family was not here until 1934 (and whose family faced "Italians Need Not Apply" signs when they got here) - "responsible" for enslaving people in eighteenth and nineteenth century Georgia.Affirmative Action also promotes women and other minorites as well...you do realize that black people aren't the only ones?
hmmm... let's just take this bit by bitQuote from: bosco1385 on August 05, 2007, 06:27:59 PMI don't think his story is representative of most AA recipients, so I guess I'll go with option B. But I think it's common enough that it's worth mentioning.You believe it's common for AA recipents to have slacked off in college? On what do you base this belief? Research? Ethnographic study?
I don't think his story is representative of most AA recipients, so I guess I'll go with option B. But I think it's common enough that it's worth mentioning.
This is a serious question, so no scoffers, please. Although not a minority, I get an awesome tan. It has been pointed out to me that I could pass as Mexican pretty easily. I got a 168 on June's LSAT, but was thinking about retaking. Why though? AA is all about skin color, it isn't about the education you received, nor is it about where you grew up. As a person with great tanning ability shouldn't I be able to take unfair advantage too?
Quote from: blondngreen on August 10, 2007, 07:02:53 PMThis is a serious question, so no scoffers, please. Although not a minority, I get an awesome tan. It has been pointed out to me that I could pass as Mexican pretty easily. I got a 168 on June's LSAT, but was thinking about retaking. Why though? AA is all about skin color, it isn't about the education you received, nor is it about where you grew up. As a person with great tanning ability shouldn't I be able to take unfair advantage too? Yes, but I don't think there is a Law School for individuals with special needs.