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should recent immigrants be allowed to become lawyers of our country?

Yes
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No
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clarification for morons: i got 174

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you mean U.S. Attorneys?

AUSA?

Justice department?


or just regular attorneys?

Nobody should be an attorney in the US without going to law school imo. If an immigrant goes to law school and is proficient in the law, I don't see what's holding him back from being an attorney...

If the recent immigrant wants to be an attorney for the government, then there might be more of a problem because of security concerns etc.
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Hello

I believe anyone who is qualified, capable, and proficient should be allowed to practice law in the US. It is a profession just like any other and under a free society should not exclude people because of their national origin. Immigrants can contribute to the betterment of the nation and the economy just as well as an American born citizen.

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you mean U.S. Attorneys?

AUSA?

Justice department?


or just regular attorneys?

Nobody should be an attorney in the US without going to law school imo. If an immigrant goes to law school and is proficient in the law, I don't see what's holding him back from being an attorney...

If the recent immigrant wants to be an attorney for the government, then there might be more of a problem because of security concerns etc.

I believe that the issue of an immigrant wishing to become a government attorney should be taken into consideration on a contingency basis. Security checks should be in place for positions of authority in government for both citizens and recent immigrants. I don't believe in going in with the mindset that immigrants alone will be security concerns in positions of power. All individuals that seek these positions should be of good moral character and should undergo a screening process.

Then again, I'm a Canadian and we seem to be a bit more accepting of immigrants :)

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you mean U.S. Attorneys?

AUSA?

Justice department?


or just regular attorneys?

Nobody should be an attorney in the US without going to law school imo. If an immigrant goes to law school and is proficient in the law, I don't see what's holding him back from being an attorney...

If the recent immigrant wants to be an attorney for the government, then there might be more of a problem because of security concerns etc.

I believe that the issue of an immigrant wishing to become a government attorney should be taken into consideration on a contingency basis. Security checks should be in place for positions of authority in government for both citizens and recent immigrants. I don't believe in going in with the mindset that immigrants alone will be security concerns in positions of power. All individuals that seek these positions should be of good moral character and should undergo a screening process.

Then again, I'm a Canadian and we seem to be a bit more accepting of immigrants :)

I think the issue is moot because I believe you have to be a citizen to work for the Fed. Gov't
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you mean U.S. Attorneys?

AUSA?

Justice department?


or just regular attorneys?

Nobody should be an attorney in the US without going to law school imo. If an immigrant goes to law school and is proficient in the law, I don't see what's holding him back from being an attorney...

If the recent immigrant wants to be an attorney for the government, then there might be more of a problem because of security concerns etc.

I believe that the issue of an immigrant wishing to become a government attorney should be taken into consideration on a contingency basis. Security checks should be in place for positions of authority in government for both citizens and recent immigrants. I don't believe in going in with the mindset that immigrants alone will be security concerns in positions of power. All individuals that seek these positions should be of good moral character and should undergo a screening process.

Then again, I'm a Canadian and we seem to be a bit more accepting of immigrants :)

I think the issue is moot because I believe you have to be a citizen to work for the Fed. Gov't


But I assume you would feel the same way in terms of security concerns for a recent immigrant that recently attained citizenship in the US. I am unsure as to how long the process is in the US but in Canada it is generally 3 years after being a landed immigrant that an individual can obtain citizenship. If it is similar then they would still be fairly recent "immigrants" to the country, would they not?

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you mean U.S. Attorneys?

AUSA?

Justice department?


or just regular attorneys?

Nobody should be an attorney in the US without going to law school imo. If an immigrant goes to law school and is proficient in the law, I don't see what's holding him back from being an attorney...

If the recent immigrant wants to be an attorney for the government, then there might be more of a problem because of security concerns etc.

I believe that the issue of an immigrant wishing to become a government attorney should be taken into consideration on a contingency basis. Security checks should be in place for positions of authority in government for both citizens and recent immigrants. I don't believe in going in with the mindset that immigrants alone will be security concerns in positions of power. All individuals that seek these positions should be of good moral character and should undergo a screening process.

Then again, I'm a Canadian and we seem to be a bit more accepting of immigrants :)

I think the issue is moot because I believe you have to be a citizen to work for the Fed. Gov't


But I assume you would feel the same way in terms of security concerns for a recent immigrant that recently attained citizenship in the US. I am unsure as to how long the process is in the US but in Canada it is generally 3 years after being a landed immigrant that an individual can obtain citizenship. If it is similar then they would still be fairly recent "immigrants" to the country, would they not?

No. I pretty much concur with your initial response to my post.
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I'm not sure what kind of lawyers you're talking about, but my answer is, definitely, yes. If they take the same LSAT and bar exam and equally qualified then I can't think of any reason why they shouldn't be "allowed" to be US lawyers. First of all, your question is not very intellectual and very ambiguous. How do you define "recent" immigrants? 2 years? 3 years? no matter what kind of standard you set, wouldn't it be arbitrary? If they speak English(obviously they do cause they don't offer LSAT in any other language than in English), and are equally qualified to pass the bar exam, then what does this country have to lose to "allow" them to become American lawyers? They would become part of the pool of law service, and if they're not competent enough then they will be automatically kicked out by the market mechanism. Say, they want to become an attorney general, which is a political appointee, then they would have to survive all the political screening.
 I'm a foreign student on F-1 visa here, and I want to become an American lawyer. But eventually what I hope to do is go back to my country and become a M&A specialist. When American companies take over Asian companies or vice versa, who's gonna represent American companies? US lawyers. Law is the foundation of all cultures. If you have one more foreign US lawyer, you have one more strong comrade on the American side. When foreign students go back to their country after getting education here, they usually become enthusiastic lovers of this country, that's the soft power of America. Why do we want to deny that power and raise the barrier on them?

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If the recent immigrant wants to be an attorney for the government, then there might be more of a problem because of security concerns etc.

I don't understand what kind of security concerns there exist. There're hundreds of ways for terrorists to come to this country without becoming a lawyer. Wouldn't it be a little expensive and time-consuming to make a terrorist go to a law school and become a US lawyer?

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Yes, they should be allowed. It's so easy to be a lawyer for the government, even a caveman can do it...


*&^%, worse than a caveman. Monica Goodling could do it.