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Re: Black Conservatives
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2007, 02:52:15 AM »
I am a moderate, I do not like liberal Democrats and I dispise far right Republicans...they both have it all wrong.  Far lefties want Socialism...wrong!!!  Far righties want black people back on plantations...wrong (for me)!  We need more common sense politicians. I intentionally vote split ticket in most elections.  If one party has total control we are d*cked. 

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2007, 09:10:51 AM »
Why is socialism wrong? Because the CEO of IBM would only make $600m a year instead of $1b?

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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2007, 09:12:29 AM »
Why is socialism wrong? Because the CEO of IBM would only make $600m a year instead of $1b?

TITCR ... welcome to the US, where people STILL confuse socialism with communism.
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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2007, 09:21:05 AM »
Socialism is not a good idea, because if the government controls all industry, where is the drive for effiency.  Big bureaucracy just leads to big slowdown.

There are certain things the government should have a hand in, and certain things it shouldn't.  IMHO
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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2007, 09:22:01 AM »
Why is socialism wrong? Because the CEO of IBM would only make $600m a year instead of $1b?

TINTCR....I'm not talking about Communism, although I'm sure some on the far left would be all in favor of that.
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Re: Black Conservatives
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2007, 09:32:01 AM »
Actually you are. Socialism != government controls all industry. That is, by definition, communism.

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Re: Black Conservatives
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2007, 09:47:32 AM »
Actually you are. Socialism != government controls all industry. That is, by definition, communism.

I'm sorry sir, but Communism is when all facets of production are controlled by the worker class.  In ideal Communism, there is NO government.

Please read Karl Marx.
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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2007, 09:57:50 AM »
I get uneasy when government gets too involved in anything.  I understant that at times it may be necessary but most things are only good in moderation.

Socialism is an economic system like capitalism.  Communism is a political system like democracy.  Neither have to do directly with government control.

The soviet Union was a Republic of Socialist States run by a Communist (like) organization.  The CEO Of IBM would be Guarranteed his job,  his income, and his social status.  There would be no tax because revenue for government would be taken out before the people are paid.  The CEO would most likely be in a high position in the commuist party which would give him certain privleges and say in public policy.  The soviet union was a 1 party system due to the vigilance of Lennin, and stalin.  No other parties survived.  1 party meant unrestricted government control due to party boss greed for money and power. 1 party mean government contol of all industry due to public policy established by the likes of the CEO of IBM.




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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2007, 09:58:16 AM »
Please don't blindly equate Marxism to Communism, it just shows you have no frigging idea what you're talking about. Karl Marx represents just one of many theoretical types of communism. And that wasn't even the topic here, it was socialism.

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I get uneasy when government gets too involved in anything.

This is (yet another) thing I find weird about Americans, although I sort of see it in an historical context. You are more uneasy about government taking control of important institutions in your life than you are in share holders and CEOs having control of the same things... Is there any logic in that? Do you generally believe billionaire shareholders to be more ethical and just in their control of America than the politicians would be? Not saying it's wrong, just looking for what lies behind it.

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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2007, 10:04:08 AM »
Please don't blindly equate Marxism to Communism, it just shows you have no frigging idea what you're talking about. Karl Marx represents just one of many theoretical types of communism. And that wasn't even the topic here, it was socialism.

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I get uneasy when government gets too involved in anything.

This is (yet another) thing I find weird about Americans, although I sort of see it in an historical context. You are more uneasy about government taking control of important institutions in your life than you are in share holders and CEOs having control of the same things... Is there any logic in that? Do you generally believe billionaire shareholders to be more ethical and just in their control of America than the politicians would be? Not saying it's wrong, just looking for what lies behind it.

I'm so glad you blindly cling to the 20th Century version of Communism.  Oh pray tell NYU man, who first wrote about the theory of Communism then?

PS...I studied both Government and History in college. 
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