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[botbot]

Thanks for the input everyone...

As a response to calling me a flame, I know all the tangible reasons UT is better than Tulane (Reminding me of them was not a bad thing, but the broad statements in this thread are a little silly). 

Part of the reason I fell in love with Tulane is the passion the students have for their school, I was trying to find someone with that love for UT.

I will graduate debt free no matter which school I go to.  I left this out to not let it sway opinions, as I will still be paying the cost, and I like money.

The middle of the class question is a very good one, I have no idea how well I will do in law school.  It is the only reason this is a debate for me.  I am sure it is hard to understand why I would not jump all over UT when I want to work in Texas (I have issues with this as well) but the three years would be insanely difficult for me.

Keep the opinions coming...

[ElectricalStorm]

<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

[botbot]

<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

What would you estimate as the % of UTex 1Ls that get paying big law gigs?

[Journeyman]

Thanks for the input everyone...
 

Part of the reason I fell in love with Tulane is the passion the students have for their school, I was trying to find someone with that love for UT.

You're asking mostly 0L's to do the job that current student plants from the admissions office did, that seems a bit unreasonable doesn't it? I'm going to UT and couldn't be happier about it, just like most all of the people I met at ASW, but I don't really think it's impingent upon me to get you there. If you don't want to come, I'd say you're being a bit obstinate about the whole thing, then I'm sure they'll easily fill your seat with somone who's dying to.
You already know all the reasons you should pick Texas.

Good Luck with your decision.

TITCR

[keelee]

<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

What would you estimate as the % of UTex 1Ls that get paying big law gigs?

The answer is here, but the website is currently down:
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1168423325385

The answer is a very high percentage, one of the highest in the country, significantly higher than UT. If you go to Tulane over UT, you are giving up significant employment oppurtunities unless you want to work in Louisiana or Europe. Graduate in the middle of the class at UT and you can still get a BigLaw job. Middle of the class at Tulane? Kiss that BigLaw job goodbye.

[iscoredawaitlist]

Thanks for the input everyone...
 

Part of the reason I fell in love with Tulane is the passion the students have for their school, I was trying to find someone with that love for UT.

You're asking mostly 0L's to do the job that current student plants from the admissions office did, that seems a bit unreasonable doesn't it? I'm going to UT and couldn't be happier about it, just like most all of the people I met at ASW, but I don't really think it's impingent upon me to get you there. If you don't want to come, I'd say you're being a bit obstinate about the whole thing, then I'm sure they'll easily fill your seat with somone who's dying to.

You already know all the reasons you should pick Texas.

Good Luck with your decision.

Agreed.

[botbot]

<--- Loves being at UT. The students are smart and friendly (It's easy to make friends and you don't see mopey faces around...well, maybe before the morning coffee!), been taught by some of the best professors I've ever had, and the name opens plenty of doors from the very first summer (the 1L summer big-law money sure helps).

Just to throw in, the number of offices in TX listed on NALP as recruiting on campus:
UT: 99
Tulane: 36

I can imagine that plenty of people go from Tulane to Texas for work, but the simple thing is that it's going to be easier from UT.

What would you estimate as the % of UTex 1Ls that get paying big law gigs?

The answer is here, but the website is currently down:
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1168423325385

The answer is a very high percentage, one of the highest in the country, significantly higher than UT. If you go to Tulane over UT, you are giving up significant employment oppurtunities unless you want to work in Louisiana or Europe. Graduate in the middle of the class at UT and you can still get a BigLaw job. Middle of the class at Tulane? Kiss that BigLaw job goodbye.

I read the article, but unless I missed it - there isn't anything on 1Ls there.  It just says UT does pretty well at the NLJ 250 (although worse than Fordham  )

Guys I am just trying to get all the information, there is no doubt that others would love to take my spot.  I will hold the spot until I have all the information I need to make the choice.

I was just trying to get some UT love going - if you don't want to talk about your school, don't.

 -- And I appreciate all the contributions guys!

[botbot]

Guys I am just trying to get all the information, there is no doubt that others would love to take my spot.  I will hold the spot until I have all the information I need to make the choice.

I was just trying to get some UT love going - if you don't want to talk about your school, don't.

Actually, it sounds like you've already made up your mind.  You seem convinced that you would be miserable in Austin, and I'm not sure what sort of evidence it would take to change that.

At some level, it doesn't matter what the objective facts are regarding what schools are "better" or "worse" - if you're going into an experience more biased towards the negative than the positive, the risk is high that you'll get what you expect.  This isn't a character judgment - it's human nature.

I like it here, and I know plenty of others who do too.  I'm sure there are a fair number who hate it, but this is counfounded by those who don't like UT and those who don't like law school, period.

UT is certainly not the only route to a law job in TX.  No one's going to look at a Tulane degree and automatically drop your resume in the circular file on that basis alone.  Your immediate opportunities (in terms of OCI) may be fewer, but in the end all you need is one that works out.  The majority of law students appear to be risk-averse creatures who feel most comfortable maximizing their chances at conventional success - biglaw, clerkship, etc.  Not everyone fits that mold, however, and for some, the subjective factors are paramount.  If that's you, go where you think you'll be happiest, make the most of it, and don't look back.

Back to studying...

Best response in the thread!  I have a huge Tulane bias, and I know it shows in this thread.  I am trying to fight it though, and thats why I keep posting here.

I have a better opinion of the UT students just from your post.

[Tulane1L]

Only you can make this decision, not a bunch of random people you have never met on a message board.

So sit down, and consider everything - location, job prospects, general feelings, etc. and do what you think will make you happy in the end.  You will not be shooting yourself in the foot by attending either school, especially debt-free.

[Funky Cold Hrdina]

Guys I am just trying to get all the information, there is no doubt that others would love to take my spot.  I will hold the spot until I have all the information I need to make the choice.

I was just trying to get some UT love going - if you don't want to talk about your school, don't.

Actually, it sounds like you've already made up your mind.  You seem convinced that you would be miserable in Austin, and I'm not sure what sort of evidence it would take to change that.

At some level, it doesn't matter what the objective facts are regarding what schools are "better" or "worse" - if you're going into an experience more biased towards the negative than the positive, the risk is high that you'll get what you expect.  This isn't a character judgment - it's human nature.

I like it here, and I know plenty of others who do too.  I'm sure there are a fair number who hate it, but this is counfounded by those who don't like UT and those who don't like law school, period.

UT is certainly not the only route to a law job in TX.  No one's going to look at a Tulane degree and automatically drop your resume in the circular file on that basis alone.  Your immediate opportunities (in terms of OCI) may be fewer, but in the end all you need is one that works out.  The majority of law students appear to be risk-averse creatures who feel most comfortable maximizing their chances at conventional success - biglaw, clerkship, etc.  Not everyone fits that mold, however, and for some, the subjective factors are paramount.  If that's you, go where you think you'll be happiest, make the most of it, and don't look back.

Back to studying...

Best response in the thread!  I have a huge Tulane bias, and I know it shows in this thread.  I am trying to fight it though, and thats why I keep posting here.

I have a better opinion of the UT students just from your post.

 

This whole time all you wanted was someone to tell you you're biased? geeze...