Just really frustrated about the lack of unrepresented minority at law schools..

[Astro]

haven't you heard?  racism is a thing of the past.  so, for that matter, is pacifism.

okay that last part was a joke, but seriously, all races now have the same advantages.  seriously.  it's true.

crap.  i totally missed the memo

It's the Bluewarrior Decree.  Should be able to Google it.

[mugatu]

haven't you heard?  racism is a thing of the past.  so, for that matter, is pacifism.

okay that last part was a joke, but seriously, all races now have the same advantages.  seriously.  it's true.

crap.  i totally missed the memo

It's the Bluewarrior Decree.  Should be able to Google it.

I'll get on it tomorrow.

[Qui Ju]

She didn't lose her spot to a minority--she wasn't even competing against the minorities.  She was competing against the other white people for the slots that weren't going to be given to minorities.  One of them got her slot, and probably did so because they were more qualified.  

Yeah, but because of AA, there were less slots available to her.  That's the whole point.  And as far as I know, after Bakke, schools aren't allowed to use quota systems like the one you're talking about.  In response to a much earlier post by you.... I know you weren't talking about the 14th amendment, but the 14th amendment does apply to state schools, so they are not free to admit people for whatever reason they want.  Of course there's still a quota system, but they're not allowed to call it that.


Sorry for the serious response, carry on everyone.

bakke only applies to state schools.  private schools can do whatever they like. 

well not really, but whatever 14th amendment --> state instrumentalities only, etc. etc. bs state action doctrine.

Yeah, I don't know that much about private schools, which is why I only said state schools...I didn't say anything that contradicted this did I?

oops.  only read first sentence. 

[Astro]

In other words, AA is not fair.  Correct?

[Astro]

It should have some entertainment value, I hope.  It was meant to be a ridiculous argument.  If I had taken more time, perhaps I could have expressed that more clearly and effectively.  Nibbles and Quibbles must not have taken it in the spirit in which it was meant (or else they just don't like me, which would break my heart). 

You're forgiven if you're being sincere.  I have my doubts, though.

Serious about the argument being ridiculous or about my heart being broken?

Sincere.  Argument.

[mugatu]

In other words, AA is not fair.  Correct?

That seems to be the case.  I'm stomping my foot right now.

[Miss P]

violating the 14th amendment through AA

Eh?  Come again?

 
To clarify what I said originally, if someone has worked their butt off and has better qualification than me, I will tip my hat and accept defeat.  If their qualification are not as good as mine, but they take someone else's spot because he or she didn't work hard enough or just wasn't smart enough to get high enough scores, I have no problem with that--my spot is the one that I said is not up for grabs.  Maybe my statement was not as clear as it could have been.  I wasn't making reference to someone who has not worked--I was referring to someone who has worked, but just not hard enough to be able to claim something of mine.

1. You don't have a spot until a school elects to admit you.  HTH.

2. You're one to talk about other people's sloppy grammar and typos on a message board.  Was your sentence structure just too complex for Word's grammar check to pick all that up?

[Astro]

In other words, AA is not fair.  Correct?

If you are asking me, I would definitely agree that AA is not fair.  That doesn't mean I would not support it (again, conditionally).  But then again, I don't think there is much in the world that is fair, nor do I think there is much that can be.

In this case, unfair = right.  Why?  Because it starts off unfair.


There are problems with AA, of course.  I'd like to hear your conditions.

[mugatu]

Dude, the condition is that it can't affect him.

[mugatu]

violating the 14th amendment through AA

Eh?  Come again?

That was in the middle of some sentence I wrote earlier.  I don't remember exactly what I said, but I was just trying to state my opinion that AA programs at state schools violate the Constitution.

How?