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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2
« Reply #5420 on: September 23, 2009, 06:16:40 PM »
When people say "shitstorm" I'm not sure they're bemoaning the fate of the top 10%. Yes, people who graded on LR have opportunities, but it seems that people with averages above 177 do not. Wouldn't you all guess that most students have heard positively or negatively from every OCI firm? I'd say the possibility of a second round of CB anywhere is very, very slight. 

I do agree that people will be hearing into November as a results of firms' more conservative approach to hiring. The fear of oversubscription will leave a lot of people in limbo unless those with offers move on them fairly quickly.

Fair enough. If you don't have a single callback by now, you're probably in trouble. Still, if you're around median with 2-3 CBs and haven't heard anything, I wouldn't assume that you struck out.

The difference between this OCI being bad and absolutely dreadful will be the number of those types of people that actually get offers. I don't know what the answer to that is.

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2
« Reply #5421 on: September 23, 2009, 06:57:59 PM »
When people say "shitstorm" I'm not sure they're bemoaning the fate of the top 10%. Yes, people who graded on LR have opportunities, but it seems that people with averages above 177 do not.

I know more than one person with 177 average who have multiple OFFERS.  There are opportunities.

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2010
« Reply #5422 on: September 23, 2009, 07:55:16 PM »
Seeing the gaggle of 1Ls today reminded me of what I once was. Innocence, youth, and paradise: all lost!

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2
« Reply #5423 on: September 23, 2009, 09:53:57 PM »
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The difference between this OCI being bad and absolutely dreadful will be the number of those types of people that actually get offers

This was the point I was trying to make. Finders, there was an implied "some" in my statement about people with 177 averages. We're fighting anecdotes with anecdotes here. I would never say "all" such students have struck out.  In any case, glad to hear that things aren't as bad as my impressions. Bottom line: Uchicago's measure for how well or badly 2009 OCI went won't be the successes and failures, or the number of callbacks, of the top 10%. It will be a question of how deep into the class the OCI firms went.


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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2010
« Reply #5424 on: September 23, 2009, 10:13:48 PM »
Seeing the gaggle of 1Ls today reminded me of what I once was. Innocence, youth, and paradise: all lost!

I sheepishly ate their leftover sandwiches today.

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2
« Reply #5425 on: September 23, 2009, 11:10:16 PM »
When people say "shitstorm" I'm not sure they're bemoaning the fate of the top 10%. Yes, people who graded on LR have opportunities, but it seems that people with averages above 177 do not.

I know more than one person with 177 average who have multiple OFFERS.  There are opportunities.

Let's not turn this into an anecdotal game, unless there's a general trend of median + multiple offers, which there clearly isn't.  FWIW, I know someone with a 179 average who struck out at the callback stage.

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2
« Reply #5426 on: September 24, 2009, 01:04:06 AM »
When people say "shitstorm" I'm not sure they're bemoaning the fate of the top 10%. Yes, people who graded on LR have opportunities, but it seems that people with averages above 177 do not.

I know more than one person with 177 average who have multiple OFFERS.  There are opportunities.

Let's not turn this into an anecdotal game, unless there's a general trend of median + multiple offers, which there clearly isn't.  FWIW, I know someone with a 179 average who struck out at the callback stage.

Yes, you're right, let's not do that. 

I know someone with a 179 average who struck out at the callback stage.

Oh wait hmmm.....

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2
« Reply #5427 on: September 24, 2009, 04:36:56 AM »

Let's not turn this into an anecdotal game, unless there's a general trend of median + multiple offers, which there clearly isn't.  FWIW, I know someone with a 179 average who struck out at the callback stage.


that's making it sound worse than it is.  that person interviewed at very few places and wasn't really enthused about corporate law in the first place--it probably came through in the interviews. 

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2010
« Reply #5428 on: September 24, 2009, 07:45:49 AM »
I suggested that anecdotes are kinda fruitless with my 179 example.  There are numerous outliers on both ends of the grading spectrum, and the median, with respect to callbacks/offers.  I know above median types with no offers, and below median types who did well at this OCI.

The 179 person will do well in the long term, I'm sure.  He or she wanted to be a public defender, and hopefully he or she will get that job for next summer.

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Re: MP's Thread, or how to get paid $75K to sit around: also known as UChicago 2010
« Reply #5429 on: September 25, 2009, 08:47:59 PM »
One thing: are you in, or hoping to be in, a clinic at any point?

I don't think you're going to get a definitive answer on Gersen/Masur for admin. They're both well-liked professors with very different styles. I would not be surprised to see an equal split there; and obviously no one has taken Admin with them both.
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