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I found the relevant information pertaining to the changes in BUSL policy concerning class ranking. The link is pasted below:http://www.bu.edu/law/central/jd/academic/documents/Academic_and_Disciplinary_Regulations_for_all_students.pdfThanks again, moocow, for bringing this to the attention of all of us considering joining the class of 2010 at BU!
My admissions cycle is complete (with the exception of Penn; but considering my numbers [169, 3.4] and that they're taking forever to reach a decision, I don't feel particularly optimistic that I'll be accepted there) and I am trying to decide between Boston University, SoCal, and Minnesota. I have not received financial aid/scholarship information from UMN yet, but I am receiving comparable scholarship grants from BU and USC. I anticipate that the annual cost after scholarship grant aid will be essentially the same for all 3 schools. Furthermore, I have no particular preference of location between the 3, since I only want to attend the best law school that I get into and also have no particular preference of location for practice after law school.Thanks in advance for the responses!
Fair enough. Is it true that twin cities girls are total hotties?
ALSO, any sports/entertainment info at BU would be useful, though my app is only pending I want to be prepared to decide by the time I hear. In that regard if you know anything about the JD/MS in mass communications I would be curious because I intend to pursue that if accepted. Thanks.
Thanks Keelee and MooCow, lots of good info and advice.I think I'm going to pick Miami over Fordham if faced with the choice, but BU or GW are what I'm hoping for.I don't want to be in NYC where I have too many hard-partying friends, the cost of living kills me, and the overall stress of life doesn't seem conducive to concentrating on my studies and doing my best. Whereas in Miami I'm pretty sure I'll end up on law review and so forth, be able to get a job down there, work in sports eventually. Plus I really love the water and have so much family down there I want to spend time around.Miami ranks 18th in the country for producing "top 500" attorneys even if not an academic heavyweight.But, I asume everyone strongly agrees if I get in at GW part time or BU that I can't pass those schools up. Right? I'm pretty sure I don't want to be at Fordham for personal reasons.
Quote from: Hurricane Lazlo on April 19, 2007, 05:00:00 AMIf you don't want to live in NYC, by all means you should go to Miami. It's a great school and a regional powerhouse. Never, never assume you will make law review. UMiami is known for being extremely difficult, and grades on a strict 3.17 curve. Just because it is ranked lower does not make it easier. In fact, UM will likely be more difficult. There is often an inverse correlation between how high a school is ranked and how difficult it is. The T20 schools are the ones where it is easiest to do well, thanks to grade inflation. Strong point. I've seen people allude to this but in less detail. In what ways is Miami known for being difficult? I've heard they have an elements class people don't like but its just one credit. Anything else? What matters more, GPA or rank? I feel like it would be hard for me to drop out of the top ten percent at Miami, but just as possible to drop out of the top half at GW or BU. Being 8 LSAT points above the 75th %ile at UM should be somewhat predictive of success, no? Being smarter than most everyone in the class has always seemed to help earn good grades and leadership in every instance I know of. I know law exams are kind of random, but doesn't that favor the handfull of students the prof is impressed with? (easier to identify the best than to discern preferences amongst the middle of the pack, hence more confident in dominating at a low Tier2 than being considered as above average at a low T25)Maybe at BU its more moot. What about GW? Do they rank everyone? At that point what does the curve matter? Hypothetically, what would be a stronger credential: top 5% at UM or top 55% at GW? What is the GW curve? I've heard people say its not a cut-throat school but I find it hard to believe. Nearly every student there wanted to go top 14, is in the middle of a huge legal market, and wants to get a top job to pay off big loans. And they are all quite smart. That seems so much tougher to me than competing at UM. I'm putting this all out there so you can school me a bit if I'm wrong but to consider some points I think are valid too. In addition to the objective case I think there is a personal tendency for me to be much more motivated when I feel like I can be one of the best of my peers (potentially the case at UM), than when I feel in the middle and intimidated by the talent of the top handful of students... then I slide into the jovial role of contented in the middle of the pack - perhaps the phenomena that makes top25 schools less comptitive as you say. At Miami, mediocrity would not be an acceptable option for me. Is that the case for many students there, thus making it competitive as you say? The impression I get from the facebook for UM '10 and posts I've read about UM's ASW was that there were lots of people wanting to work in Miami (do-able with mediocre grades) and a noticable contingent of "kids of lawyers looking to treat LS like extension of UG". ASW impressions included thinking the UGs represented were unimpressive. Plus the numbers are what they are... I've never attended a class regularly and handed papers in by due date then not gotten an A. It seems at top25 I'll be rolling the dice but at UM I wouldn't even have to come off as a gunner, just do the work, to get mostly A's. With a 3.17 curve how many A's are there in a group of 100? This may illuminate things to me and change my mind.
If you don't want to live in NYC, by all means you should go to Miami. It's a great school and a regional powerhouse. Never, never assume you will make law review. UMiami is known for being extremely difficult, and grades on a strict 3.17 curve. Just because it is ranked lower does not make it easier. In fact, UM will likely be more difficult. There is often an inverse correlation between how high a school is ranked and how difficult it is. The T20 schools are the ones where it is easiest to do well, thanks to grade inflation.