Texas Tech vs. South Texas College of Law

[Ever162]

2 wouldn't really be considered inbreeding.  Most law schools have at least some professors who went to school there.

You are right; I was overestimating the number based on what I observed during an ASD.  It seemed like everyone I met from the staff and faculty had a JD from SMU (I guess they were just trying to show us successful grads) There are still a few associate professors with SMU JDs, and even a couple that have other SMU degrees. 

I stand by my lack of prestige comment for all three (but would love to be proven wrong)...

J.D. or J.D. equivalent:
Texas: 7
Harvard: 4
Yale: 4
Michigan: 3
Georgetown: 3
Columbia: 2
Stanford: 2
SMU: 2
NYU: 1
UCLA: 1
Virginia: 1
North Western: 1
American: 1

Post JD Degrees:
Oxford: 4
Yale: 3
NYU: 3
Columbia: 3
Harvard: 1
Texas: 1

PhDs: 3

47 full professors.

You're right. An inbred and unprestigious faculty. *&^%. Come to think of it, my Civ Pro professor wrote part of the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure; that’s like a double whammy ‘cause he is teaching kids his own rules! And all the adjunct professors do is bring in real world experience! They don’t even bring in a fancy pants name!

God, SMU is a TTT. I think I'm going to drop out and be a guy that sells flowers on the street corner. Obviously he’s more prestigious.


Edit/Add: Troll.

[midjeep]

2 wouldn't really be considered inbreeding.  Most law schools have at least some professors who went to school there.

You are right; I was overestimating the number based on what I observed during an ASD.  It seemed like everyone I met from the staff and faculty had a JD from SMU (I guess they were just trying to show us successful grads) There are still a few associate professors with SMU JDs, and even a couple that have other SMU degrees. 

I stand by my lack of prestige comment for all three (but would love to be proven wrong)...

J.D. or J.D. equivalent:
Texas: 7
Harvard: 4
Yale: 4
Michigan: 3
Georgetown: 3
Columbia: 2
Stanford: 2
SMU: 2
NYU: 1
UCLA: 1
Virginia: 1
North Western: 1
American: 1

Post JD Degrees:
Oxford: 4
Yale: 3
NYU: 3
Columbia: 3
Harvard: 1
Texas: 1

PhDs: 3

47 full professors.

You're right. An inbred and unprestigious faculty. sh*t. Come to think of it, my Civ Pro professor wrote part of the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure; that’s like a double whammy ‘cause he is teaching kids his own rules! And all the adjunct professors do is bring in real world experience! They don’t even bring in a fancy pants name!

God, SMU is a TTT. I think I'm going to drop out and be a guy that sells flowers on the street corner. Obviously he’s more prestigious.


Edit/Add: Troll.

You should have told me you have Dorsaneo...I would have warned you about how he tests on interlocutory appeal even though he only spent 10 seconds in class talking about it.

[Ever162]

You should have told me you have Dorsaneo...I would have warned you about how he tests on interlocutory appeal even though he only spent 10 seconds in class talking about it.

Yeah, that would have been very nice to know.   

[botbot]

2 wouldn't really be considered inbreeding.  Most law schools have at least some professors who went to school there.

You are right; I was overestimating the number based on what I observed during an ASD.  It seemed like everyone I met from the staff and faculty had a JD from SMU (I guess they were just trying to show us successful grads) There are still a few associate professors with SMU JDs, and even a couple that have other SMU degrees. 

I stand by my lack of prestige comment for all three (but would love to be proven wrong)...

You're right. An inbred and unprestigious faculty. sh*t. Come to think of it, my Civ Pro professor wrote part of the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure; that’s like a double whammy ‘cause he is teaching kids his own rules! And all the adjunct professors do is bring in real world experience! They don’t even bring in a fancy pants name!
God, SMU is a TTT. I think I'm going to drop out and be a guy that sells flowers on the street corner. Obviously he’s more prestigious.


Edit/Add: Troll.

I obviously was not clear enough in my postings, I meant to make the point that there is a good deal of inbreeding in the three schools (which I was mostly wrong about SMU and said so).  SMU just paraded their grads (professors, admissions workers, etc) on ASD, I was given the wrong impression.

Work you do after your JD will determine fame and prestige as a professor, it just happens that most of the people that do great work after their JDs did great work before them (and got into the top schools).  There are those that go to TTTs and end up doing great work in the law (becoming famous, etc), and there are those that go to Yale that end up taking teaching jobs at FTTs because they are mediocre at what they do.

All of that said, famous and prestigious teachers != good teachers.  Some of the worst professors I have had are the most famous at my campus...  I was saying that the non-UT Texas schools lack a prestigious staff, not that they have bad teachers - or that the education one recieves from these schools is in any way bad.  Everyone wants people that post negative things to be a troll, without realizing that they are simply trolling for the opposite side.

[lovethelaw2010]

I would argue that prestigous = famous and a very good legal scholar who's an expert on his subject doesn't necessarily make him a good teacher.  I've had some pretty famous professors in my undergrad and for the most part I thought that the younger people with more to prove were always better at teaching than the older "researchers".

[vap]

I thought I would add Baylor to this list and further distract the thread...

Full Time Faculty Received JDs From:
10 - Baylor
2 - University of Oklahoma
1 - Marquette
1 - William Mitchell
1 - Yale
1 - Washington University
1 - Southern Methodist University
1 - University of Michigan
1 - Ohio State
1 - Northwestern

Yep, that's 50% of the full-time faculty.

[lovethelaw2010]

Yeah you have to be a special breed of person to enjoy Waco.

[botbot]

I thought I would add Baylor to this list and further distract the thread...

Full Time Faculty Received JDs From:
10 - Baylor
2 - University of Oklahoma
1 - Marquette
1 - William Mitchell
1 - Yale
1 - Washington University
1 - Southern Methodist University
1 - University of Michigan
1 - Ohio State
1 - Northwestern

Yep, that's 50% of the full-time faculty.

It never occurred to me that Baylor had so few full time faculty...

[Ever162]

I thought I would add Baylor to this list and further distract the thread...

Full Time Faculty Received JDs From:
10 - Baylor
2 - University of Oklahoma
1 - Marquette
1 - William Mitchell
1 - Yale
1 - Washington University
1 - Southern Methodist University
1 - University of Michigan
1 - Ohio State
1 - Northwestern

Yep, that's 50% of the full-time faculty.

It never occurred to me that Baylor had so few full time faculty...

They're very tiny. SMU's entering fall class is on the order of 180 FT and another 100 PT. UT is something like 400. Houston, South Texas, Saint Mary's, & Tech are all between 250 and 400. Baylor's is only about 70; smallest of all the schools in or around Texas.

[vap]

I thought I would add Baylor to this list and further distract the thread...

Full Time Faculty Received JDs From:
10 - Baylor
2 - University of Oklahoma
1 - Marquette
1 - William Mitchell
1 - Yale
1 - Washington University
1 - Southern Methodist University
1 - University of Michigan
1 - Ohio State
1 - Northwestern

Yep, that's 50% of the full-time faculty.

It never occurred to me that Baylor had so few full time faculty...

They're very tiny. SMU's entering fall class is on the order of 180 FT and another 100 PT. UT is something like 400. Houston, South Texas, Saint Mary's, & Tech are all between 250 and 400. Baylor's is only about 70; smallest of all the schools in or around Texas.

70 in the fall, 150 total each year.  (They accept students for the Spring and Summer quarters).