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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 12:07:31 PM »
Your feelings are a sign of weakness. Potential employers/your law student peers will sense and exploit this.

Consider guidance counseling as a vocational path.

Thanks for the unsolicited and uninformed advice but I think I'll stick with law. I also figured it wouldn't take long for someone to post an example of exactly what I'm talking about, so thanks again.

Many of us don't post like that, Sweet Beans.

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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 12:08:36 PM »
Your feelings are a sign of weakness. Potential employers/your law student peers will sense and exploit this.

Consider guidance counseling as a vocational path.

Thanks for the unsolicited and uninformed advice but I think I'll stick with law. I also figured it wouldn't take long for someone to post an example of exactly what I'm talking about, so thanks again.

CP's being sarcastic.  Don't take it personally.

V's right.  A lot of us DON'T post like that.

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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 07:06:50 PM »
Your feelings are a sign of weakness. Potential employers/your law student peers will sense and exploit this.

Consider guidance counseling as a vocational path.

Thanks for the unsolicited and uninformed advice but I think I'll stick with law. I also figured it wouldn't take long for someone to post an example of exactly what I'm talking about, so thanks again.

Just think of it like spam. Ignore it.  Trolls depend on your reactions.

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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 07:29:19 PM »
Just think of it like spam. Ignore it.  Trolls depend on your reactions.

Hate to break it to you, but:


CP's being sarcastic.


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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 07:46:52 PM »
Rev - I've seen in other spots that you regret going to LS. Why's that? Any advice for those who still intend on going?


some days i regret it and some days i dont.  i think my reasons are personal, and probably not indicative of the student body as a whole, but here they are:

1)  i busted my ass and still barely finished in the top half of the class.  granted, i've been out of school for over ten years, but still.  part of this had to do with all the marbles being on one 3 hour test at the end of the semester, consisting of maybe three essay questions.  it wasnt that i didnt know the material -- it was all in my writing style, according to the profs.

2)  a lot of the material is stuff that i am not and never will be interested in.  its flat out boring.  i dont bore well.

3)  i expected to be taught that "the law is....." and that is not the case.  the law is whatever the judge decides its going to be that particular day, based on his/her interpretation of case law, common law, or vague statutory authority.  its very frustrating. 

4)  i'm used to being an expert in my field.  i dont like being at the apprentice level again.  i'm also used to living in a nice house and having at least some disposable income.

5)  i miss my dogs.

6)  as an older student, i have been told that i intimidate interviewers; who are also somewhat uncomfortable with both my age and the fact that i went to seminary.  also, i'm not a hometown boy in a small legal community.  ergo, no summer or fall job lined up yet when less qualified classmates are already set.

7)  i am somewhat concerned with my ability to find a job after graduation.  i am not inclined to spend another 50k and sacrifice two years of earning power on the chance that nobody will hire a almost-50 year old.  sad but true.

8)  i'm still busting my ass this semester (i promised myself i would give it my best effort for a year) and the prospect of hard work /=/ a good return is depressing.

9)  i'm not at all sure i want to practice law.  the only law i appear to be interested in doesnt pay squat.  corporate or transactional law looks mind-numbingly boring.  i dont want to trade the remaining years of my work life for something i cant be passionate about.


Rev, What have they actually said to you about being older? I mean it's not like we are older than dirt. I still have a good 20+ years I plan to work.  ???  I'm afraid that I would be very vocal if a potential employer said or insinuated that I was too old to work for them. :-[
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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2007, 10:16:28 AM »
Rev - I've seen in other spots that you regret going to LS. Why's that? Any advice for those who still intend on going?


some days i regret it and some days i dont.  i think my reasons are personal, and probably not indicative of the student body as a whole, but here they are:

1)  i busted my ass and still barely finished in the top half of the class.  granted, i've been out of school for over ten years, but still.  part of this had to do with all the marbles being on one 3 hour test at the end of the semester, consisting of maybe three essay questions.  it wasnt that i didnt know the material -- it was all in my writing style, according to the profs.

2)  a lot of the material is stuff that i am not and never will be interested in.  its flat out boring.  i dont bore well.

3)  i expected to be taught that "the law is....." and that is not the case.  the law is whatever the judge decides its going to be that particular day, based on his/her interpretation of case law, common law, or vague statutory authority.  its very frustrating. 

4)  i'm used to being an expert in my field.  i dont like being at the apprentice level again.  i'm also used to living in a nice house and having at least some disposable income.

5)  i miss my dogs.

6)  as an older student, i have been told that i intimidate interviewers; who are also somewhat uncomfortable with both my age and the fact that i went to seminary.  also, i'm not a hometown boy in a small legal community.  ergo, no summer or fall job lined up yet when less qualified classmates are already set.

7)  i am somewhat concerned with my ability to find a job after graduation.  i am not inclined to spend another 50k and sacrifice two years of earning power on the chance that nobody will hire a almost-50 year old.  sad but true.

8)  i'm still busting my ass this semester (i promised myself i would give it my best effort for a year) and the prospect of hard work /=/ a good return is depressing.

9)  i'm not at all sure i want to practice law.  the only law i appear to be interested in doesnt pay squat.  corporate or transactional law looks mind-numbingly boring.  i dont want to trade the remaining years of my work life for something i cant be passionate about.


Rev, What have they actually said to you about being older? I mean it's not like we are older than dirt. I still have a good 20+ years I plan to work.  ???  I'm afraid that I would be very vocal if a potential employer said or insinuated that I was too old to work for them. :-[



they don't actually *say* anything.  that would be a violation of law.  they just don't hire you. 

you can tell sometimes by the way they look at you, or by the questions they ask that you don't stand a chance in hell.

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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2007, 10:25:36 AM »

they don't actually *say* anything.  that would be a violation of law.  they just don't hire you. 

you can tell sometimes by the way they look at you, or by the questions they ask that you don't stand a chance in hell.


I actually know what you're talking about.

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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2007, 05:58:19 PM »
It's funny, I graduated Summa Cum Laude from college, have a master's degree in which I graduated with distinction and a 159 LSAT and sometimes I feel like a complete loser on this site.  It is about 6-10 points seperating me from them, yet I will go to either a T2 no money or a T3 paid.  I come to this board so often and usually leave feeling exactly like a loner and down and out.  This is even with good numbers and a ton of leadership activities.  Damn you LSAT!!!

I bet you could get into Iowa.

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Re: Law school loner?
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2007, 06:03:57 PM »
It's funny, I graduated Summa Cum Laude from college, have a master's degree in which I graduated with distinction and a 159 LSAT and sometimes I feel like a complete loser on this site.  It is about 6-10 points seperating me from them, yet I will go to either a T2 no money or a T3 paid.  I come to this board so often and usually leave feeling exactly like a loner and down and out.  This is even with good numbers and a ton of leadership activities.  Damn you LSAT!!!

I bet you could get into Iowa.

If he's an Iowa resident, sure.

Depending on eric's GPA, I bet he could get a decent scholarship from a few T2s as well.