Quote from: AJF on March 03, 2007, 12:35:44 PMok, so faggot is an offensive word, fair enough. Do I condone the widespread use of the word "faggot"? no. But I hope you become equally outraged when the President is called a nazi, terrorist, or murderer? Just because the gay rights movement is en vogue for young college students doesnt mean that other young college student causes dont engage in the same hateful tactics.I think you need to try a little harder to tease out the differences between calling someone a murderer vs. a faggot and the lunch table at the student union vs. a major political conference.
ok, so faggot is an offensive word, fair enough. Do I condone the widespread use of the word "faggot"? no. But I hope you become equally outraged when the President is called a nazi, terrorist, or murderer? Just because the gay rights movement is en vogue for young college students doesnt mean that other young college student causes dont engage in the same hateful tactics.
Quote from: bluewarrior on March 03, 2007, 12:41:42 PMdo you know what a PUNDIT is?that is coulter.I don't see how this applies to the issue at hand. Simply stating that a so-called shock pundit's job is to shock doesn't in and of itself excuse the offense, or does it?
do you know what a PUNDIT is?that is coulter.
Quote from: Gopherit on March 03, 2007, 12:44:16 PMQuote from: AJF on March 03, 2007, 12:35:44 PMok, so faggot is an offensive word, fair enough. Do I condone the widespread use of the word "faggot"? no. But I hope you become equally outraged when the President is called a nazi, terrorist, or murderer? Just because the gay rights movement is en vogue for young college students doesnt mean that other young college student causes dont engage in the same hateful tactics.I think you need to try a little harder to tease out the differences between calling someone a murderer vs. a faggot and the lunch table at the student union vs. a major political conference.Dennis Kucinich, a US Rep. attended the anti-war march in DC that called Bush all of these things. This is a man who spoke at the DNC 2 years ago. Theres video of him applauding the hate rhetoric. Hardly a lunch table. Ann is a pundit, she gets payed to say this stuff. Why is this so concerning or surprising, Al Franken says crazy stuff to Democrat 527s all the time, ever heard of moveon.org? that is also a PAC.
AJF, I refer you back to my post re: the distinction between value judgments of a single person vs. of an entire group.Blue, your argument is diversionary and evasive.
Quote from: bluewarrior on March 03, 2007, 01:00:21 PMdon't colbert and stewart and miller get hired by entire groups to "shock" and "entertain" them?They're hired to entertain them. Occasionally an opinion might be shocking. Shocking is not the same as offensive, which is the crux of your diversionary tactic. Now, on to the evasion, for which I quote my previous question to you:Simply stating that a so-called shock pundit's job is to shock doesn't in and of itself excuse the offense, or does it?
don't colbert and stewart and miller get hired by entire groups to "shock" and "entertain" them?