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Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« on: February 26, 2007, 07:20:22 PM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 07:24:23 PM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.
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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 09:05:54 AM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.

Why do you say that?
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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 11:08:48 AM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.

Why do you say that?

Well I think its fairly obvious from the statistics of Black enrollment at elite schools (at least on the undergraduate and graduate level). I'm not sure about professional schools, though.

By most, I'm not suggesting that foreign born Blacks get more of a boost than African Americans. I'm only stating that the foreign born blacks usually have the academic creditials that would allow them to take advantage of affirmative action - moreso than American Blacks.
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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 11:19:26 AM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.

Why do you say that?

Well I think its fairly obvious from the statistics of Black enrollment at elite schools (at least on the undergraduate and graduate level). I'm not sure about professional schools, though.

By most, I'm not suggesting that foreign born Blacks get more of a boost than African Americans. I'm only stating that the foreign born blacks usually have the academic creditials that would allow them to take advantage of affirmative action - moreso than American Blacks.

Hmm, not sure I agree with that.  People tend to forget that for ever foreign born Black who is educated in the US, there are thousands (if not millions) who will never receive higher education.  Usually the foreign blacks who actually make it to the US have to have higher credentials to be able receive funding, let alone be accepted.

However, when you consider black American children of immigrants, then I would defintely that they are overrepresented in 'elite' istitutions relevant to their share of the African American population.
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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 06:39:15 PM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.

WHOM benefit the most?

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 06:41:37 PM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.

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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2007, 01:16:29 PM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

They're international students. US Schools LOVE international students. 

At my Catholic UG, it was actually easier for them to recruit kids from Africa, than it was to get black kids from Philly to come to school. In the US we had a reputation as a "white school," in Africa, it was a free education at a great Catholic School.

Not that we were overloaded with kids from Kenya, the scholarship money just wasn't there...
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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2007, 08:04:52 PM »
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

They're international students. US Schools LOVE international students. 
At my Catholic UG, it was actually easier for them to recruit kids from Africa, than it was to get black kids from Philly to come to school. In the US we had a reputation as a "white school," in Africa, it was a free education at a great Catholic School.

Not that we were overloaded with kids from Kenya, the scholarship money just wasn't there...

Hmm, I don't think this is necessarily true.  We're more of a novelty than a recruiting priority, based on my experience and other intl kids I know. 

Just want to dispell the myth that schools are eagerly throwing money at tons of intls, because that simply isn't true. In fact, when I applied to undegrad certain schools didn't even consider international students for need based or merit scholarships.
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Re: Do foreign born blacks get AA?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007, 09:23:02 PM »


Hmm, I don't think this is necessarily true.  We're more of a novelty than a recruiting priority, based on my experience and other intl kids I know. 

Just want to dispell the myth that schools are eagerly throwing money at tons of intls, because that simply isn't true. In fact, when I applied to undegrad certain schools didn't even consider international students for need based or merit scholarships.
Just wondering if an immigrant from Nigeria or something who got an UG degree in the U.S. qualifies for AA. I'm asking cause there is the debate going on of blacks from america being different from those who immigrated from africa voluntarily.

yes. in fact, those are the blacks whom benefit the most.

Why do you say that?

Well I think its fairly obvious from the statistics of Black enrollment at elite schools (at least on the undergraduate and graduate level). I'm not sure about professional schools, though.

By most, I'm not suggesting that foreign born Blacks get more of a boost than African Americans. I'm only stating that the foreign born blacks usually have the academic creditials that would allow them to take advantage of affirmative action - moreso than American Blacks.

Hmm, not sure I agree with that.  People tend to forget that for ever foreign born Black who is educated in the US, there are thousands (if not millions) who will never receive higher education.  Usually the foreign blacks who actually make it to the US have to have higher credentials to be able receive funding, let alone be accepted.


TITCR...though I think that the OP and JB are defining "foreign-born" as those who were born elsewhere but have since acquired their citizenship or residency status.  When restricted to that group, JB's points ring true.
 
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