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Re: Miami...
« Reply #160 on: April 01, 2007, 09:57:58 PM »
I was down in Miami for all of the admitted students events and Bittersweet is pretty much on target with everything.  I placed comments on a few of her points within the text and am going to pick up where she left off below.

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Quote from: jillibean on March 24, 2007, 10:05:25 AM
Does anyone know about Miami students living in Ft. Lauderdale. It doesn't seem that far away and my husband would be transfered there.


While this is based on my rather limited knowledge, I'd say you'd have a hell of a drive to and from school through traffic and stuff.  Yuo could actually be 50 miles away from the school or better, depending on exactly where in Lauderdale or Broward County.  If I'm wrong someone call me out, but it seems like you'd be spending quite a bit of time in transit... but if that's alright with you.  You may do better to locate in north Miami somewhere, at like a halfway spot.  Good luck!


I concur.  I commuted from south broward to FIU my first year.  It didn't take long for me to move to Miami.  The traffic is a b@#ch!!!  My advise, for what it's worth, move as close to school as you can afford. 


"afford" being the key word. for a very standard, small 1 bedroom condo across from the school, the owner is asking 1500 a month (only sewer, water, and basic cable included). basically, after talking to a realtor, if you want to live in a secure complex within walking distance of UM, there are only three complexes. i would contact a realtor and go through them because it's easier for them to set up with the owners of these condos than you on your own. sure, you can find 700-1000 a month places within walking distance, but those are little cottages or house-like places. as a girl i'm not sure i would feel safe walking to or living in such isolated quarters. maybe it's fine, someone else who knows the area i'm talking about can elaborate (streets off SW 57th along the UM campus near the law school quadrangle). also, the isolation bothers me because i want to be around other UM law students since it would be nice to make friends and know a few people. i'm definitely going to decide on a complex rather than one of those, even if they are cheap in comparison. plus, complexes have pools/spas and sometimes exercise facilities.

another option, if you're looking to walk to class, is the university village. i didn't see the inside, but they're brand new and they look really nice on the outside. best yet, they're very close to the law school and have their own parking garage. a 1 bedroom is 1325 a month. there are three other types of apartments, but they require roommates. one type is a separate room and private bath even though two people are sharing the apartment. i don't remember the exact prices but they were somewhere from 700-900. however, from what i can make out, there are very few available for law students. someone threw out the number 37 spaces, but i don't know how reliable that info is. i also can't say how noisy, etc. these apartments are. that's why i'm still on the fence about doing dorm-living again in my first year of law school.

Around 40 is the number of units available for law students in U. Village...The tour guide said this is split in half- 20 for guys and 20 for girls.  It looked really nice on the outside, but seemed to primarily house Ugrads...

now, if you want a short drive, you have many more nice options. it sounds like for the first year, STAY CLOSE. short drive is fine, but not more than 5-10 minutes because you're going to be on campus much more than 2L's or 3L's. in south miami, check out places near Sunset Place, which is a cute shopping area a little further down US1 than UM. don't go too far south though because otherwise traffic is going to be a HUGE problem. i got more of a taste than i wanted of miami traffic. if possible, live to the north of UM and DRIVE SOUTH (away from downtown miami). that way traffic in the morning is going the opposite direction of you, while when you're driving home in the evening (if you're not in the library studying...) you're driving north while everyone else working in miami is trying to come south AWAY from downtown. the previous area i mentioned is south of UM, but so close that traffic won't matter very much. north-ish of UM is coconut grove (stay away from certain areas like grand ave) and more downtown coral gables. we drove around and saw a lot of signs with for rent signs, but i'm really set on staying close enough to walk so i didn't check out many places. if anyone went on the housing tour on saturday, maybe they could fill in some of these blanks.

Good strategy here...I'd also add that, if you can, stay on the same side of US1 as UM...That way, you can avoid US1 traffic all together as there seemed to be lots of backroads and ways to cut through residential neighborhoods.  Even though there's a metro that runs parallel to US1, stops don't seem to be accessible from most of the complexes we looked at on the tour.  If you can't get on the same side of US1 as the law school, definitely go with Bittersweet's rec's.  Most of the surrounding area of UM is on the low side of the scale in terms of overall crime in Miami, but if I had to pick an area to stay away from it'd be this one section of Coconut Grove near Grand.  When we drove through it on the bus, everyone's face was priceless.  It's right around dowtown Coconut Grove, which I personally found to be quite nice minus this area.  Some friends of mine took me out in the Grove Saturday night and there were lots of cool spots and nice boutique shopping places.  On the bus tour, the guide mentioned that there are a few firms located in the grove, so it may be a nice place to live if you end up summering there.

basically, everything is extremely over-priced. i'm glad i have a big scholarship because a lot of it's going to go to living.

any questions, PM me.


For those that missed the housing tour, we basically took a look at places where most law students live and particularly focused on ideal places for 1L's.  I was on the first bus and the guide frequently mentioned that we don't get first picking when it comes time to scheduling classes so most of our are gonna be at 8am.  This is something to think about when factoring in commute times.  Though parking is bad at the law school, I've heard that you're fine if you have a 8am class b/c lots of 2 and 3Ls don't(one good thing we have going for us).  Also, the guide mentioned that the complexes are good because there are other law students living there which can serve as a support group and also most of the complexes have gyms and laundry facilities.  The fewer times you have to leave your apartment complex for things like this, the better as we will be strapped for time.  Ok, so below I will give you the breakdown of neighborhoods and complexes/condos we viewed:

1. South Miami
-Oasis Condos
-Sunwood Condos
-Gables Point Condos
-Ludlam Point Apartments

2. Downtown Coral Gables
-Sevilla Isles Apts.
-Hernando Gardens
-Gables Grand Plaza

3. Coconut Grove
-no specific complexes, so contacting a realtor would be your best bet if you want to stay here

4. Coral Gables
-University Inn Condominiums

5. South Miami/Sunset Place Area
-Sunset Square
-Villa Fontana
-Mayan Towers

6. Valencia Condos

7. University Village


****I lost my map and can't remember which side of US1 these apartments are fall..In terms of whether or not they are north or south, the neighborhood names should give that away.



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Re: Miami...
« Reply #161 on: April 02, 2007, 05:30:25 AM »
I answered my own question about schedules but while I was looking I saw parking prices. WOW- do I want to park? I thought my undergrad was expensive for $78 a year but $400- and the discount parking is around $210 and there are only certain places you can park- I guess the good thing is the Hurry-Cane shuttle.

Also, while you guys were on the housing tours did they mention anything about Kendall. A friend said that a lot of people live there because its suburban and inexpensive. It's about 25 minutes away- I don't know if that is with or without rush hour but in the end I just want to be safe and feel safe. I don't care how far away from the school I will be, I just want safety.

Re: Miami...
« Reply #162 on: April 02, 2007, 05:43:03 AM »
I answered my own question about schedules but while I was looking I saw parking prices. WOW- do I want to park? I thought my undergrad was expensive for $78 a year but $400- and the discount parking is around $210 and there are only certain places you can park- I guess the good thing is the Hurry-Cane shuttle.

Also, while you guys were on the housing tours did they mention anything about Kendall. A friend said that a lot of people live there because its suburban and inexpensive. It's about 25 minutes away- I don't know if that is with or without rush hour but in the end I just want to be safe and feel safe. I don't care how far away from the school I will be, I just want safety.

They never took us by Kendall...They only mentioned exactly what you said, its nice and safe but also pretty far and prohibitive for 1L's.  If safety is a major concern, I think you will be fine staying closer...I don't know statistics but the general consenus is that there is the one area of Coconut Grove that's dangerous but that's about it.  Honestly, parts of Coconut Grove and Goral Gables are pretty affluent...Not to say crime doesn't happen in affleunt neighborhoods, its just that you don't get the vibe that its dangerous.  Are you planning on calling the police departments near neighborhoods around campus?

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Re: Miami...
« Reply #163 on: April 02, 2007, 06:37:12 AM »
just out of curiosity when you guys say "shady neighborhoods" do you mean like get your throat cut shady or just not suburban...im asking because im all about cheap and im from and have lived in big cities all my life so my idea of shady may be a different than others. i am interested in the valencias because they look nice and seem reasonable, so i mean is it a dont leave your door open and watch your back "shady" or a "dey shootin' dey shootin'!" shady? also did you guys check out any apartments north of campus 'cause im all for not sitting in traffic

Re: Miami...
« Reply #164 on: April 02, 2007, 07:50:42 AM »
just out of curiosity when you guys say "shady neighborhoods" do you mean like get your throat cut shady or just not suburban...im asking because im all about cheap and im from and have lived in big cities all my life so my idea of shady may be a different than others. i am interested in the valencias because they look nice and seem reasonable, so i mean is it a dont leave your door open and watch your back "shady" or a "dey shootin' dey shootin'!" shady? also did you guys check out any apartments north of campus 'cause im all for not sitting in traffic

well one block away from the valencia condos looked bad. maybe a boy would feel ok, but i certainly wouldn't. and it's not like my undergrad school is from some prissy upperclass area--case borders the east cleveland ghetto, as in, the taco bell ten minutes the wrong way from campus has bullet-proof glass...

also, some other person in some thread i can't remember mentioned valencia condos. apparently he/she lived there and said there were a lot of break-ins and a friend had their car stolen, etc. this person warned against living there. but again, i think the key point about living around UM is to go check out every place and the surrounding area thoroughly during the day and night and make an informed decision.

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Re: Miami...
« Reply #165 on: April 02, 2007, 09:19:17 AM »
Log onto Miami-Dade's website.  There is a link called "My Neighborhood" on the left hand side.  Click on it.  Search for crime stats by address and enter an address near the apartment you are looking for.  It will give you a map of the area with all of the recent crimes.  Let me know if you can't find it.

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Re: Miami...
« Reply #166 on: April 02, 2007, 09:45:31 AM »
ok cool thanks, im hoping i'll have time get down there sometime after spring break to check it out for myself

Re: Miami...
« Reply #167 on: April 02, 2007, 10:37:43 AM »
thanks wkruse.  i checked out a few apartments i was looking at and the corresponding crime stats.  yep, there is crime in miami.  i just wanted to confirm that. 

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Re: Miami...
« Reply #168 on: April 03, 2007, 06:48:30 AM »
just out of curiosity when you guys say "shady neighborhoods" do you mean like get your throat cut shady or just not suburban...im asking because im all about cheap and im from and have lived in big cities all my life so my idea of shady may be a different than others. i am interested in the valencias because they look nice and seem reasonable, so i mean is it a dont leave your door open and watch your back "shady" or a "dey shootin' dey shootin'!" shady? also did you guys check out any apartments north of campus 'cause im all for not sitting in traffic

well one block away from the valencia condos looked bad. maybe a boy would feel ok, but i certainly wouldn't. and it's not like my undergrad school is from some prissy upperclass area--case borders the east cleveland ghetto, as in, the taco bell ten minutes the wrong way from campus has bullet-proof glass...

also, some other person in some thread i can't remember mentioned valencia condos. apparently he/she lived there and said there were a lot of break-ins and a friend had their car stolen, etc. this person warned against living there. but again, i think the key point about living around UM is to go check out every place and the surrounding area thoroughly during the day and night and make an informed decision.

Yikes! I really liked those and wanted to live there...

Re: Miami...
« Reply #169 on: April 03, 2007, 08:59:12 AM »
I liked Valencia too...close to the law school and $1600 for a furnished 2/2 condo!!! Sucks its so dangerous.  I may suck it up though and stay there anyway.