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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2007, 01:14:42 AM »
LSAT questions are copywrited by LSAC.  LSAC does not wish to disrupt online discussion of LSAT questions, but must take reasonable steps to safeguard its copyrights and to ensure fairness to those individuals who have obtained legitimate permission to reproduce LSAC questions.

I, for one, really think that this is lame. The LSAC is choosing make money off of old tests instead of having a level playing field. In a time when Kaplan will guarantee their very, very expensive product, the LSAC should be bending over backwards to make sure that broke students aren't placed at an even bigger disadvantage. Fairness for students takes a back seat to those who "obtained legitimate permission."

So how do you propose LSAC differentiates poor students from rich ones?  With rich kids taking advantage of unauthorized copies of prep material, LSAC could barely make profit.  Without profit, such a service wouldn't exist.  Now, that would be really lame.  In my opinion, LSAC is not the best agency in addressing the issue of faireness.

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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2007, 01:02:14 AM »
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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2007, 01:43:04 PM »
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  The Law School Admission Council (LSAC) understands and sympathizes with the anxiety that the LSAT causes test takers 



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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2007, 05:44:21 PM »
Dear LSAC, is there a lagging in time taken LSAT around the world?

I know LSAT is administered in Hongkong and China. The normal start time for US except the June test is 10:30 am saturday morning east or west coast. This is not a problem for the US test centers, because the LSAT test last longer than 3 hours, so when east coast finishes, the west coast is in the middle of the test.

However, 10:30 am east coast time is 11:30pm Beijing time. I dont see how that can be the test time for either Hongkong or China, which are on Beijing time. And the earliest  finsih time of east coast could be around 2:30pm which is 6:30am Beijing time, again I dont see how this can be Beijing's test time.

If Beijing's test is administered several hours after the east coast finish time, then this is unfair to all test takers in US. This unfairness is not due to WWW makes it easy to spread test information because of site like this. It is unfair that LSAC wants to maximize its profit by expanding to other countries while not strictly creating fair test conditions. Imagine, someone could easily take a dummy test in US and telephone friends or clients in China about the test.

From what I know, the content of LSAT administered around the world is the same for each test.
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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2007, 08:35:04 PM »
From what some people have posted on other sites, the LSAT was different in Asia.  They were all griping about it. 

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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2007, 05:33:01 PM »


P.S. The LSAC is a non-profit. They're not supposed to be making tons of money--just enough to cover operating costs. Unless Jim Bakker just got hired to head the LSAC, giving away tests for free shouldn't be a big deal.



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Non-profit does not preclude the ability to make a "huge" profit. The name is a misnomer. 
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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2007, 10:19:32 AM »
Hey if LSAC is still reading this thread, could you be kind and let us know if we get our scores today?  This could be a great way to demonstrate goodwill...

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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2008, 03:31:48 PM »
Reconstructing is more an axiety tactic than anything else

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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2008, 10:17:13 AM »

The LSAC would like for us to remind you of the following:



The Law School Admission Council (LSAC) understands and sympathizes with the anxiety that the LSAT causes test takers and their strong desire to discuss with their peers the questions that they have just taken on the LSAT.  However, LSAC prohibits such discussion, including the so-called “postmortem” discussion of test questions immediately after a particular test administration, because it has the potential to affect the fairness of the LSAT and the law school admission process. Certain LSATs are non-disclosed and their questions may be used again at a later administration of the test.  And even in the case of disclosed tests there may be circumstances in which LSAC may need to administer a test form to some test takers somewhat later than to others.  Discussion of test questions in a public forum like a website before the test is disclosed, even though its usefulness is limited by the memory and ability of the participants, makes information about that test widely available to anyone who has access to the web and may unfairly advantage test takers who see the discussion before they take the test. Since the number of admission slots in law schools is limited, such an unfair advantage could penalize those who took the test at an earlier time, including those very people engaging in the post-mortem discussion.

In an effort to ensure the fairness of the LSAT, LSAC requires test takers to sign a statement on the LSAT answer sheet saying that they agree not to “copy or retain examination questions or to transmit them to or discuss them with any other person in any form.” In addition, test takers sign a certification statement on the LSAT admission ticket agreeing that they have “no right to reproduce, recreate, distribute, or sell any of that test.”  In this statement they also certify that they “understand that the Law School Admission Council reserves the right to pursue all suitable courses of action to prevent fraudulent or unauthorized use of its property and to prevent the compromise of secure test material.”  Thus, test takers enter into a contract with LSAC that they will not discuss with others the test questions they have taken. In addition, LSAC’s “Instructions for the Day of the Test” state: “Legal action may be taken against anyone who removes test materials and/or reproduces test material in any way, or shares LSAT test content prior to LSAC’s disclosure of that test.”

If inappropriate public discussion of test questions on public websites reaches a point at which it threatens to undermine the fairness of the LSAT, injuring LSAT test takers, or at which it damages the value of non-disclosed LSAT test forms, LSAC would be compelled to take appropriate action to prevent such injury or damage.  These actions could include reporting violators to the LSAC Misconduct Committee.  Admission to the bar and the practice of law impose high standards of conduct and LSAC member law schools take very seriously the integrity of the candidates they admit.

LSAC does not seek to take special steps to enforce its prohibition on the inappropriate discussion of test questions.  We would prefer that test takers recognize that compromising test questions before they have been disclosed by LSAC runs counter to the general interest of test takers in a fair testing process, as well as to the personal interest of those discussing the questions, and voluntarily refrain from discussing LSAT questions until after they have been disclosed to test takers by LSAC.  However, we believe that we have an obligation to both our law school members and our test takers to protect the fairness and integrity of the LSAT and the law school admission process, and we take that obligation very seriously.

Jim Vaseleck
Executive Assistant to the President and Associate Counsel, LSAC


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Re: ***Please Read*** Do not post unreleased LSAT info
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2008, 02:33:47 PM »
bump for Oct 08