Quote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 07:21:18 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:53:05 PMQuote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 06:44:34 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:40:41 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.this is wrongSo you're saying that NYU is in a totally different league than Michigan? Please justify beyond USNews.Yes - biglaw, clerkships, more famed profs, better speakers, i think they are more or less equal in academia.It's the word "much" which is problematic. Because the difference you're talking about... sorry, but it only works out like that from within the prestige-whore paradigm.
Quote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:53:05 PMQuote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 06:44:34 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:40:41 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.this is wrongSo you're saying that NYU is in a totally different league than Michigan? Please justify beyond USNews.Yes - biglaw, clerkships, more famed profs, better speakers, i think they are more or less equal in academia.
Quote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 06:44:34 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:40:41 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.this is wrongSo you're saying that NYU is in a totally different league than Michigan? Please justify beyond USNews.
Quote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:40:41 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.this is wrong
Quote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.
its all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!
nyu is 10x the school michigan is. michigan is nowhere near as good as it used to be. it is the epitome of TTT in decline
Quote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 07:55:28 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 07:50:28 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 07:48:53 PMnyu is 10x the school michigan is. michigan is nowhere near as good as it used to be. it is the epitome of TTT in declineExplain. Michigan still has top notch faculty and great placement.absolutely....but it is not in the same league as NYU. On a more serious note, I started this thread as 1/2 flame, 1/2 serious bewilderment over my disappointment with what are pretty decent, but nonetheless (apparently) disheartening optionsWe're in the same boat I actually share your feelings but dare not voice them because I would get slaughtered.Unfortunately I think the real prestige jump is to HYS. There seems no real difference between NYU and Michigan.
Quote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 07:50:28 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 07:48:53 PMnyu is 10x the school michigan is. michigan is nowhere near as good as it used to be. it is the epitome of TTT in declineExplain. Michigan still has top notch faculty and great placement.absolutely....but it is not in the same league as NYU. On a more serious note, I started this thread as 1/2 flame, 1/2 serious bewilderment over my disappointment with what are pretty decent, but nonetheless (apparently) disheartening options
Quote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 07:48:53 PMnyu is 10x the school michigan is. michigan is nowhere near as good as it used to be. it is the epitome of TTT in declineExplain. Michigan still has top notch faculty and great placement.
Quote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 08:13:49 PMQuote from: open and notorious on February 09, 2007, 07:33:49 PMQuote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 07:21:18 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:53:05 PMQuote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 06:44:34 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:40:41 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.this is wrongSo you're saying that NYU is in a totally different league than Michigan? Please justify beyond USNews.Yes - biglaw, clerkships, more famed profs, better speakers, i think they are more or less equal in academia.It's the word "much" which is problematic. Because the difference you're talking about... sorry, but it only works out like that from within the prestige-whore paradigm.I didn't write the word "much" - the difference isnt't as small as you thinkIt's in the text that you responded to (and without carving it out).That is, from your posts, we can say that you have said:1. NYU is much better than Michigan2. NYU is in a totally different league than Michigan
Quote from: open and notorious on February 09, 2007, 07:33:49 PMQuote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 07:21:18 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:53:05 PMQuote from: Steve.jd on February 09, 2007, 06:44:34 PMQuote from: JuanTwoThree on February 09, 2007, 06:40:41 PMQuote from: ivy07 on February 09, 2007, 06:01:49 PMits all going to be ok guys, because I got into NYU today!!!!!! See you all next year in Greenwich Village!Soon you'll realize that NYU isnt much better than Michigan or Boalt and you'll end up going to Michigan anyway.this is wrongSo you're saying that NYU is in a totally different league than Michigan? Please justify beyond USNews.Yes - biglaw, clerkships, more famed profs, better speakers, i think they are more or less equal in academia.It's the word "much" which is problematic. Because the difference you're talking about... sorry, but it only works out like that from within the prestige-whore paradigm.I didn't write the word "much" - the difference isnt't as small as you think
Unless you want to modify your position, don't make a show of noting that you didn't write the word (you did of course use the word).I know what the difference is, both in terms of placement and in terms of faculty. Like I said, statements (1) and (2) are true only from within the prestige-whore paradigm. If it makes a big difference to you if you're working at Cravath instead of White & Case instead of Cahill, then maybe NYU is dramatically more good. The same thing works on the quality -- oh no, excuse me, you're concerned with the fame -- of the professors.
Quote from: Steve.jd on February 10, 2007, 01:51:06 AMThere actually is a big difference between working at Cravath and Cahill - whether or not you acknowledge it.If you're a prestige whore, of course there is. If you're not -- remind me, exactly what is the effectual difference?
There actually is a big difference between working at Cravath and Cahill - whether or not you acknowledge it.
Even though you acknowledged that you're 1/2 flame, I would trade your Berkeley acceptance for my NYU one in a heartbeat. I'm still waiting on Berkeley. Damn, why does life have to work this way: giving people things they don't want.
So what you're saying, Steve, is that the difference between attending NYU and attending Michigan is making millions of dollars on the one hand and a miserable existence on the other? Right. I'm sure that's true.
That's cool how you referenced a case.
I'm so far from the end of my tether right now that I reckon I could knit myself some socks with the slack.
FYI: there is a huge difference between famous professors and GOOD professors. Screw famous, just teach me what I need to know!
I hope steve.jd and CS4L hang out at Harvard. The combined gravitic pull of their prestige-egos will put all of the 1Ls, as well as most of the 2 and 3Ls, and a handful of the faculty into orbit. After a short time, they will all collapse upon each other creating the first man made black hole, ripping Cambridge into some space-time paradox before the black hole decays away to nothing... Good bye.