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I have 6 GMAIL invites...

noell.sweet

Re: I have 6 GMAIL invites...
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2004, 09:12:52 PM »
Wow, all that effort *JUST* for dissing me?!?!?!  I'm flattered ...  :D

1) I meant that it was a joke, because I was making fun of the "Save Karyn" website.  That's all ... :(

2) Do you mean the Haiku thread?  I did that because mukhia thought I should promote it.  I thought it would be conceited to promote it (because I wasn't being serious in the first place), but I made a haiku to be funny, for mukhia, I wasn't actually being serious.  Search the site sometime for it, and the other posts ...

3) So what?  I wasn't asking for the money.  People who read my posts would realize it was done tongue-in-cheek.

4) Of course I needed the money!!  Didn't you read the very first thread?  I asked how to cancel the LSAT because I didn't have the money for it?  I never ask people for money for something that I want to do, it's dumb and conceited.  Casino mentioned starting a fundraiser, Mukhia mentioned a website about a girl who got people to donate to them, I figured they were all joking around? ... So I put up a parody to be funny.  I'm sorry it didn't make you laugh.  But, yes, I needed the money, but that's not the way I wanted to come up with the money ...  :-\

5) I was talking about people not wanting to hire me RIGHT AFTER I graduated from college.  I got a stupid job at Safeway after I graduated, and then moved up here to Portland, still worked at Safeway, and had to do TEMP JOBS for a year!  I've only recently (2 years, which is 2 years AFTER I graduated, and 2 years of not having a stable full-time job) got the job I am currently doing.  I didn't feel like telling my life story right then and there.  Yes, I have a damn $2,000 property debt from a sub-lease I did when I wasn't able to pay all of my rent, because of the temp jobs, yes I have $30,000 in debt (MOSTLY student loan debt, some past bills), and yes, *RIGHT AFTER COLLEGE* nobody would hire me, except for Safeway, and that was $6/hour, part-time.  That kind of put a burden on paying of some bills, and when you get behind, it's hard to get back on track.  Both those reasons are keeping me from having the money right now to pay for LSDAS/LSAT; my student loans end their forbearance in October, and I've used up my forbearance/deferrment time, so my *MINIMUM* payment they will allow me to make is $180 per month; also I have to pay $200 each month for 10 months to pay off the $2,000 property debt, otherwise they will garnish it out of my wages (I have no choice, a judgment was already filed, if I don't make the payments, they will *TAKE* their payments).  So that's $380 right there, each month, plus, groceries (about $100-150), rent $800, electric $50-100, paying off old bills that have been consolidated $200, etc., but I shouldn't have to justify myself to you ...

6) I didn't get $40,000 in credit limits, stupid. $10,000 in credit card *DEBT*, including late fees, overdraft charges, etc., etc., etc., and a total of $30,000 in student loan *DEBT*.  Please, just get your facts straight before accusing me.

7) Lack of experience!!!  NO f-ing *&^%!!  How can I get experience, when I am a college student, having health problems, who COULDN'T WORK IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!  I didn't it was HARDER for me, I said it was *HARD* for me to find a job.  And my second job?  I don't get paid for TRAINING, and I don't actually start shifts until the end of October!  There's one training this month, one training next month, and *THEN* I can actually start working.  Just because you are hired for a job doesn't mean you can work right away, ok?  That's why I don't get paid until November, because I don't actually work until the end of October.  Duh ...

8 ) You're right.  I'm a stupid person who should've planned better.  I suck.  I've failed.  I admit it.  That's why, I originally asked how to cancel the LSAT.  So I could save up the money.  I've just now figured out what I wanted to do with my life.  I want to go to law school, I want to still work in a law firm, I want to be a lawyer, etc.  Before, all I wanted to do was survive ... and eat.  But, you are right.  I am really stupid for thinking someone like me, in my position, with my background can go to law school.  I am serious, you are right.  That's originally why I wanted to cancel.  And I will, ok? ... I have my 'Cancel LSAT' letter sitting here already, with a stamp on it to LSAC, just trying to decide if I should take the test, or not.  Because, I don't like owing people any money.  I didn't want the money in the first place.  I needed to pay everyone back.  So I asked LSAC how to cancel LSAT/LSDAS, they said I needed to send in a letter with my signature, before October 1st.  I still have time.  And I will send it on Monday.  And everyone will get their money back ... it was only a parody of another website, no one was supposed to take it seriously, even Mukhia and Pookie.  Though I appreciate the help, it was wrong.

9) No, no one was tricked.  My words on the website were tongue-in-cheek.  I tried to make that as obvious as possible.  All my posts about the website here tongue-in-cheek.  I also tried to make taht as obvious as possible.  Mukhia's weren't.  Pookie's weren't.  I am sorry that they promoted it like that, it was never meant to be an actual "worthy cause".  I have been trying to take care of myself all my life, I've had to rely on myself, so coming up with the money later on, would've been fine.  Yes, I would've been disappointed, but you know, I believe everything happens for a reason.  If I have the money for the LSAT, then I'm supposed to take it.  If I don't have the money for the LSAT, someone's telling me that I probably shouldn't take it.  I am sorry I even put up the website in the first place, this has gone way out of hand. :(

noell.sweet

Re: I have 6 GMAIL invites...
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2004, 09:26:48 PM »
No, I'm not going to tell you to @#!* off ... because, I really don't care what you say when you present yourself like you did.  *I* know I'm not a con artist, my friends know I'm not a con artist, and some people on this board know I'm not a con artist.  $40,000 credit limit?!  Uh, no ... $30,000 for student loan debt, and $10,000 for credit card debt.  And I really didn't have a choice of where I lived.  I had no money to get a place of my own, and on *TOP* of that, if you would have read my PS and Addendum you would know I was suffering with health problems throughout college, and I wasn't able to take care of myself on my own (as stupid and humiliating as that sounds, it is true) ... instead of sending me to jail, I might as well just leave this board for good, because it seems that I can't do anything right as far as you or some others on this board are concerned.  I don't expect you or anyone else to care, but it really hurts my feelings that you would say stuff like this about me the way that you did.  Yeah, you know, I could've planned better, I could've saved up money and starved myself to death just to go to law school, or grad school, I could've been put in a foster home like they wanted me to be, and I could've had a much better life.  But fact is, I'm stupid.  I thought it was more important to me to be with my own family.  And I didn't know that my uncle was taking advantage of me.  I honestly thought he was paying our bills ... but I found out the hard way that he wasn't, when we were evicted.  :-\  But it was basically too late ...  I had to live with my best friend until I graduated college and got a job at Safeway, for crying out loud.  I really couldn't save up any money.  In fact, I haven't been able to pay *ANY* of my student loans back yet (hence the $30,000, loan money, interest, other fees, etc.) because I've had to put them on forbearance, deferrment, etc., etc., so I could eat, pay rent, and pay off my credit card bills (which I got behind on, and are now catching up to me) ... anyway ... none of this matters ... I'm not making excuses ... I'm just saying, I lived my life the best way that I could at the time, with what I was dealing with.  If I would've known that I wanted to go to law school back then, I would've tried my hardest to save up the money for it, instead of worrying about those bills ... but I didn't know what I wanted to do at the time.  I had thought that I was proud of myself for getting such a good job now, and figuring out that I wanted to go to law school, but now, I don't think I planned anything right.  I think I screwed everything up by letting someone use me for money :( ... I think I'm just best I don't go to law school, leave my spot at L&C for someone who has planned better, and far more deserving ... so, I think, tonight, this will be my last post on this board ...  :-\ ... we'll see ... :(

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Re: I have 6 GMAIL invites...
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2004, 10:14:00 PM »
It would be fine if you legitimately had a need and just wanted to funny, like the homeless guys on the sidewalks w/ the funny signs. However, I don't think that you need the money sooo badly as you say b/c of your own words. "I think I can come up with the rest, but I'm leaving that webpage there out of morbid curiosity," doesn't really sound like you need the money now does it? Also, you admit on your website that LSAC says you make too much money. If your money is tied up w/ student loans, credit card debt, and judgments, then that's your own doing. However, just b/c your money is tied up, doesn't mean that it's all or nothing...you either take the LSAT in Oct or never become a lawyer. No, it just means that you have to plan better for June's test and maybe sit this admission cycle out. You are the one that needs to save and pay for your test rather than relying on others to do it. A rough childhood is no excuse to have others take care of you when you should be capable of doing it yourself. Just b/c you chose a job that doesn't pay you until November doesn't excuse you from holding out for one that would let you start immediately. This goes back to that whole planning aspect. If the LSAT is so important to you, the fact that you wouldn't get checks until Nov. would have been the most important factor when deciding to accept the job. You could have held out for another, since I'm sure it isn't the only job in Portland.

As far as you job situation in college...cry me a river. A lot of ppl on here have had to do female dog work while in school or even after school. I was a lifeguard at a hotel and then a bank teller, even for two months after I had my degree. You do what you have to do, but I would never make it seem as if my life was miserable b/c I had to work a less than desirable job, just as many others who donated money wouldn't. 

This isn't to say, however, that I still don't think that you deceived ppl into donating money to your "cause." You stated that, " I am sorry that they promoted it like that, it was never meant to be an actual "worthy cause," and that everything was obviously just tongue-in-cheeck. No it's not, especially when you put up a website that allows others to go through the process of a donation. Any reasonable person would think that this aspect actually makes it seem legit. Imagine if the Democratic or Republican website said, "the world will either be saved by our candidate or ruined if we lose. We can't do it unless we have your financial support." Isn't it the actual mechanism that allows you to make a donation that affirms their claim that those funds are necessary as opposed to a disclaimer at the bottom that says their kidding and no mechanism? Also, you expect others to have read your previous posts from several other threads in order to know that it was just a joke. Do you really expect others to go searching through over 100,000 posts to know that you were joking? You can't pretend that ppl are just mind-readers and know that you had alternative motives than what is said on the website. You say that the website was obviously a joke; however, any reasonable person that reads the website and sees the mechanism would think otherwise. Also, if Mukhia and Pookie did not know that it was just 'tongue-in-cheeck' that should have been your first clue that most reasonable ppl don't see it as just a joke. At that point, you should have instantly notified them that it was a joke and modified the website w/ a disclaimer to also notify others, but that's not what you did. You would have prefered that others believe that you need the money and allow them to donate.

noell.sweet

Re: I have 6 GMAIL invites...
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2004, 11:02:10 PM »
Look, Giraffe, you really misunderstand me.  No, I didn't need the money, I could've put off the LSAT until December, I didn't have the money to pay for it to take in October.  I know this, ok?  I put it up as a parody.  I linked it to the paypal account, because they have those Make A Donation buttons with them.  I'm not trying to make excuses.  I really didn't think anyone would send money after reading the text on that website.  I understand my loans and everything is my own doing, ok?  I was the stupid one who let someone take advantage of me.  I'm not asking for anyone to do anything about that.  I just originally wanted to know how to cancel the LSAT, so I could get my *&^% together, you know?  I wasn't making excuses about my rough childhood, I only said that because swifty said I wasn't "Thinking about others, like kids who don't even know their mothers or fathers", etc.  I know you guys don't care about that, I don't expect you to, ok?  And, this job that I took is really important to me, I have been wanting this job for years.  The LSAT is important, too, yes, but it isn't like it is do or die for me.  That's why I asked how to cancel it for good, and then maybe re-apply later on.  Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to be in law school, and be a lawyer, but you know, one step at a time, right?  I can't do everything, I'm not superwoman. :)  You posts made me bawl like a baby, because I am being accused of being a fraud, and that hurts so bad because I love a lot of people on this board:  Cho, Reindeer, Mukhia, Pookie, Desi, Ginatio, etc., etc., and I wouldn't think of frauding anyone.  I am not crying because "I'm a loser" or "I suck" or something like that.  It hurts that you guys think I am frauding you.  I really care about you guys, you are all very smart, funny, kind, you have given me helpful advice from time to time.  I wasn't trying to "cry you a river" about my job situation in college.  I was just letting you guys know ... that's all. :( ... I am truly sorry about all of this.  I don't know what else I can do about the situation.  Everyone that donated money, their money is with LSAC, as you can see from the screen shot in my other post, but the people that have donated their money after that have been refunded.  The website has since been taken down.  I provided my contact details in case someone needs it for reference, but anyone can always email me if they are concerned with their donation.  :-\  I am sorry, Giraffe,  I'm sorry to cause you grief, or trouble.  I really am.  You seem like a really cool person from the posts that I've read while being here on L.S.D.  :)

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Re: I have 6 GMAIL invites...
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2004, 01:35:56 AM »
I love a lot of people on this board:  Cho, Reindeer, Mukhia, Pookie, Desi, Ginatio, etc., etc., and I wouldn't think of frauding anyone.  I am not crying because "I'm a

No love for swifty?  8)

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Re: I have 6 GMAIL invites...
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2004, 06:12:16 AM »
know what you mean - I'm a little hurt also.