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The Thread for the Next Prez
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:24:49 PM »
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Re: The Thread for the Next Prez
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 07:25:51 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 12:22:24 PM »
Yes. Also, Brownback who is in the ring already is a really good thing.
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Re: The Thread for the Next Prez
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 02:55:09 AM »
Obama doesn't stand a chance.

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 02:00:03 PM »
No Kerry

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, won't make a second bid for the White House, sources familiar with Kerry's thinking said Wednesday.

A source close to Kerry and a Democratic operative who worked for him in 2004 said the four-term senator has decided to sit out the 2008 race, which already has drawn more than a dozen contenders from both parties.

Kerry made that decision within the past day and was expected to announce it later Wednesday, the source said.

A Democratic operative who worked for Kerry in the presidential race said that the senator "came to the realization a lot of people want something new."

The operative said people close to Kerry advised him that fundraising would be tougher and that many party activists who supported him the last time were signing up with other candidates.

"You have to think hard about whether you hurt yourself" by running again, the Democrat said.

In the 2004 race, Kerry trailed President Bush in the popular vote 51 percent to 48 percent and lost in the Electoral College 286-252.

Since the loss, Kerry has struggled to gain support within the Democratic Party for another nomination.

In the latest CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, 5 percent of Democrats said Kerry was their top choice for the 2008 nomination, and a little more than half -- 51 percent -- did not want him to be the 2008 nominee.

Kerry trailed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, who led the field of Democratic preferences with 34 percent; Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, with 18 percent; his 2004 running mate, former Sen. John Edwards, who got 15 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore, the party's 2000 presidential nominee, with 10 percent.

The telephone poll was conducted Friday through Sunday and involved 467 registered voters who describe themselves as Democrats or independents who lean to the Democratic Party.

The poll's margin of error was plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

Kerry was a decorated Navy officer in the Vietnam War who became a prominent critic of the conflict, famously asking a Senate committee in 1971, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

He voted for the congressional resolution authorizing the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but he now opposes the war. Critics mocked him as a "flip-flopper" during his campaign against Bush.

CNN's John King, Ed Henry and Mark Preston contributed to this report
 
 
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 02:38:10 PM »
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Re: The Thread for the Next Prez
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2007, 12:14:06 PM »
Amen.

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Re: The Thread for the Next Prez
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2007, 12:15:06 PM »
More Obamania (has anybody used that term yet?  If not, I want credit):
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 Obama excites entertainment community

By JOCELYN NOVECK, AP National Writer 22 minutes ago

Star quality: It's what Hollywood was built on. And there's no question that to the many powerful Democrats in the entertainment community, Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) has loads of it.

George Clooney calls him a friend. Halle Berry has said she'd "collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear." Oprah Winfrey says he's her man.

And three of the most powerful men in Hollywood _ Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen _ have just invited Democrats to a truly high-profile fundraiser: a Feb. 20 reception for Obama at the Beverly Hilton Hotel, with a dinner later at Geffen's home for top donors.

But despite all that, political analysts note that being the "next big thing" can be fleeting. And a number of traditional donors and activists in Hollywood and the music industry are a long way from choosing, at this early stage, whom to endorse among the three seen as top-tier Democratic candidates: Obama, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards.

"People are very excited that this is a fine Democratic field," says Marge Tabankin, a longtime political activist in Hollywood. "Many people will support several candidates, to keep a healthy debate going. The top candidates are all coming out in the next month, and people will be carefully checking them out, listening to what they have to say."

The movie, television and recording industries gave $33.1 million to federal candidates and parties in 2004, with much of that coming from Hollywood, according to the non-profit Center for Responsive Politics. Those industries were more generous in 2000, contributing $38.6 to federal candidates and parties, the center found. In both election cycles, Democrats got the majority of the money _ 69 percent in 2004 and 64 percent in 2000.

In the 2004 cycle, Katzenberg donated about $248,000 to federal candidates and parties, Geffen gave about $73,500 and Spielberg gave some $29,200.

Tabankin and other analysts point out that it's Clinton who's the clear front-runner at this point, with the long-term relationships, the financing, the network of support dating to the early '90s, when her husband began his first term as president.

Others note the admiration for Edwards, and the sense that the former North Carolina senator and the 2004 vice presidential nominee has a strong and clear message this time around.

"People feel he's very well-positioned," Tabankin says. "He's got support for his commitment to fighting poverty, for his energy and his intelligence." And in liberal Hollywood, many like his position on Iraq _ he's recanted his 2002 vote authorizing force there and demanded that Senate rivals block funds for President Bush's troop increase.

Even the Obama fundraiser hosted by the three founders of the DreamWorks movie studio doesn't mean all three have decided to endorse Obama. Only Katzenberg is backing the Illinois senator, says Katzenberg's political adviser, Andy Spahn.

Spielberg isn't picking favorites yet. He and other major Los Angeles donors, including producer Steve Bing, media mogul Haim Saban, supermarket magnate Ron Burkle and investment banker Sim Farar, will be co-hosting a fundraiser for Clinton in the spring, said her spokesman, Phil Singer.

Clooney, one of the world's hottest movie stars, has made no secret of his enthusiasm for Obama's candidacy, even if he's made no public endorsement.

"George is a huge supporter and fan of Barack, as well as a friend," said Clooney's publicist, Stan Rosenfield. He stressed that Clooney is unlikely to campaign for Obama, though, because the actor feels support from liberal Hollywood can be a detriment to the candidate. "You lose the heartland."

Barbra Streisand and Norman Lear, major Democratic players in Hollywood, have not taken a position, and they traditionally give to multiple candidates "in order to keep debate alive," says Tabankin, who is affiliated with the Barbra Streisand Foundation.

Hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons says he has yet to make a choice. But he has an idea for the perfect Democratic candidate.

"If you could take Barack Obama's image, add Hillary Clinton's money and John Edwards' voice, that would be my candidate," says Simmons, an independent who has supported both Democrats and Republicans.

Simmons says Obama has yet to present a clear picture of where he stands.

"He's a rock star," Simmons said in a telephone interview. But he added, "I don't know what his opinions are." Simmons says that so far, the message he prefers is Edwards' _ but he's also fond of Dennis Kucinich, the liberal Ohio congressman launching his second long-shot candidacy.

Others, Tabankin says, have similar reservations. "Obama has tremendous potential _ he cuts across race and class lines. But people don't know him yet," she says.

There's also a current of nervousness: Is the country ready to elect a black president? The same current of nervousness exists about Clinton, of course: Is the country ready to elect a female?

A key mistake, says analyst Todd Boyd, would be to reduce everything to the gender and race factor.

"We're simplifying things if we do that," says Boyd, a professor at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts. "What I'm finding interesting is that Obama is not the immediate favorite of a lot of African-Americans _ he came up through the system, not the grass roots like Jesse Jackson. At the end of the day, race and gender are a major factor but not the only factor. Hollywood will line up and see how these things play out."

Yet Boyd and others cannot deny that Obama has one thing the others don't.

"Obama has the potential to be a star like nobody else does," he said. "He has that 'It' factor, that star appeal. And it's Hollywood that created that system."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070126/ap_en_ce/celebrities_obama

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Re: The Thread for the Next Prez
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2007, 05:50:11 PM »
There's also a current of nervousness: Is the country ready to elect a black president? The same current of nervousness exists about Clinton, of course: Is the country ready to elect a female?

Goodness gracious!  What a crying shame that in 2007, we're asking if our country is "ready" to do anything.  Were people "ready" to free slaves in Confederate states?  "Ready" for black to sit at the front of the bus?  "Ready" to eat, live, and die as equals?  Give me a break.  We can't wait for people to be "ready" to do the right thing; that tomorrow will never come.
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