I love it. I love it.You being Asian doesn’t invalidate your arguments and furthermore to suggest that AA will have “deleterious” consequences is a gratuitous use of the English language. Even in the most extreme circumstance I would submit to you AA would have negligible adverse consequences at best. Many of the consequences you have outlined in your previous post would exist with or without AA. Discrediting Black folks because of AA, would merely turn into discrediting Blacks due to neighborhood they grew up in, maybe even undergraduate institution, clothes we wear, hairstyle or some other BS.No I have not read Sowell’s book COMPLETELY, but I am familiar enough with it to make educated commentary. When it comes to mystical ability I would define it more so as intuition with a very low coefficient of error as it relates to detecting self loathing Blacks.Incidentally, I have a more socialist lean.Sub Saharan Africa by definition is the area below the Sahara. That’s roughly ¾ of Africa.I brought up the slave trade because you brought up the slave trade. I don’t think you were trying to trivialize it, but there seem to consequences stemming from the slave trade that for one reason or another you can’t link to Blacks folks here and now despite them being conspicuous to most Black folks. That’s gap you will have to bridge on your own.I will accept your accept your premise for lack of Asian partners, but I will assure you that 5-10 years from now there will still be a disproportionately small number of Asian partners. You mentioned business men, doctors and engineers; maybe its me but I haven’t seen even the slightest prevalence of Asian chief executives in the Fortune 1000. Are you familiar with what some people call a “glass ceiling”. There is no shortage of smaller businesses and engineering firms headed by Asians I am certain, but again you seem to be wearing blinders.“I don't doubt that some doors are blocked for some people, but seeing that it's impossible to actually gauge how much discrimination exists, it's impossible to tailor a standardized program that would address discrimination in all its possible individual cases, and AA causes more problems than it solves (possibly even causing more discrimination as a backlash against favored groups receiving privileged treatment due to unequal standards), AA doesn't strike me as a very wise policy.”I love it. The mere fact that you made this comment demonstrates the need for AA. If it is impossible to gauge exactly how much discrimination exists yet everyone is cognizant of its pervasiveness it would be foolish to abolish a program that combats it. The fact it is not iron clad does not invalidate it. AA came about to reverse instances where less qualified Whites were being selected over more qualified Blacks, Indians…etc. I think it is quite convenient you haven’t brought that up. Ergo the “quota”.
People are only likely to think that if they're racist anyway. Otherwise, they're liable to chalk it up to people f-ing up, as do many, many, many white doctors, which I'm thinking was a reason Piggy would like to see that list of successful malpractice claims. If black doctors aren't f-ing up proportionately more than white doctors are, then there's no reason to say that AA has relaxed admission standards, because presumably the white doctors who screwed up were admitted under the more "rigorous" admission standards. Sorry for spoiling the second homework assignment, P. I had doubts about whether s/he was gonna get it anyway, though.
Never mind. Already taken care of, I see.
Quote from: H4CS on August 22, 2007, 09:14:52 PMQuote from: dashrashi on August 22, 2007, 09:04:34 PMNever mind. Already taken care of, I see. This is sort of generalizable in these discussions, no? It seems like clockwork that some kid comes along thinking his opposition to AA is somehow magical and due to always being the smartest of his friends, he must be right. Throw in some Thomas Sowell (he's BLACK!!!!) and we have ourselves another thread.And then we can sojourn here to see the scattered corpses and charred remains of valiant warriors on both sides of the issue littering the landscape, festering, smelly, foul.
Quote from: dashrashi on August 22, 2007, 09:04:34 PMNever mind. Already taken care of, I see. This is sort of generalizable in these discussions, no? It seems like clockwork that some kid comes along thinking his opposition to AA is somehow magical and due to always being the smartest of his friends, he must be right. Throw in some Thomas Sowell (he's BLACK!!!!) and we have ourselves another thread.
Quote from: dashrashi on August 22, 2007, 09:20:12 PMT S Eliot?From now on my stock response is going to be "ur jus a jellus h8r."B M F Piggy
T S Eliot?From now on my stock response is going to be "ur jus a jellus h8r."
Eh, I prefer reality. Becomes pretty obvious then, no?