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Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games

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Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« on: November 27, 2006, 07:05:43 PM »
Hey guys, here's the deal. New member here, first post, yadayada. I love this board and lurk it all the time. I am a non URM with a 3.21 cum GPA and Buffalo is my first choice for law school. I have never taken the LSAT before and am signed up for it this Saturday.

Good news: I am good at logical reasoning questions. I have never opened the logical reasoning bible but can still go thorugh a section of LR getting at most 3-4 wrong. Same thing with reading comprehension.

Bad news: I absolutely SUCK at logic games. I mean I SUCK at them. I see posts on law school discussion boards from people talking about how the games section is the easiest section and how it's only gotten easier, and how it's the most coachable, so am I just the dumbest person ever or what?

My main concerns are grouping games. I think that I am slowly getting better at linear games although I really suck at the advanced ones and I struggle to even finish the basic ones within the given timeframe of 8 minutes 45 seconds per game. I'm lucky if I can break 11 minutes. My setups are decent but I struggle to find inferences from my created setups and as a result my time slows down dramatically. I've read the Logic Games bible and worked through most of the games in it(all Linear, Adv Linear, Grouping and Group/Linear combo ones anyway, since these are the most prevalent), and sometimes I struggle to even create a good setup as well. Some of the grouping games look so complicated to me that I cannot devise a good setup. I then open up my trusty Powerscore Logic Games setup guide, and I look at the setup for the problem that I'm working on, and I am amazed. How could I ever get to the point where I could devise something as beautiful as that? I also really struggle with knowing when and how to apply identify the temples and identify the possibilities strategies. I mean really, I guess logic games are just not my forte.

I figure that I need a 161+ to get into Buffalo considering that their 25th-75th GPA is 3.0-3.6 and their 25-75th LSAT is 152-158? Or do you guys think that I only need like a 159 to have a good shot? I'm counting on only being down -10 when I get to the logic game section but right now it looks like I'm going to miss about 12 on the Logic games section out of 22. So it will be my worst section by FAR. I've thought about just cancelling this exam and taking it in February instead, but I don't know if I'm going to be any better by then. Maybe I'll just take the exam and if I somehow pull out a games miracle, great, and if I suck it up at the games section, I cancel and sign up for some intense telephone tutoring with one of those Powerscore geniuses?

Freaking out would be an understatement.

Let me also add that I have PT's 19-38, plus 46, 47, and 48, I think. Is there someone on here who can tell me what kinds of games the recent LSATs have had? I have 46-48 as I said, but I'm too dumb to realize what kinds of games are on these. I know that some are basic linear because I tried those and could to them, and those are my best games, but that's not saying much.

Like have recent LSATs included more grouping-partially defined, or more advanced linear- overloaded?

Cliff notes for those too lazy to read the thread:

Me good at LR and RC
Me suck at AR.

Me = rhymes with lucked.  ;D :-\

Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2006, 07:13:13 PM »
ugh. i feel you. i'm retaking saturday. did pretty well last time, but figured i could study games only, ace them and be fine. But it never fails that I get stuck completely on 1 out of the 4 games. I'll usually finish 3, then the last one is futile. And forget finishing in time. Its a good section if i only have to guess 2 at the end. I'm about to give up

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Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2006, 07:13:28 PM »
I am in your boat. I just did not think the games bible was any good.


I  can handle some of the easier lin games, grouping is terrible.

I took a powerscore , but did not get much from it. Maybe because my teacher admitted  she sucked at games .

If i was like the people on the board and got -0 on games i would be close to 170 . Oh well.


Too late to  repeat a course now with a different teacher. Feb test too late for this cycle.

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Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2006, 07:17:18 PM »
I guess we are all just screwed.

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Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2006, 07:22:18 PM »
no no no ....think positive thoughts because if not, even if you are great, you will stink on Saturday.

For me, I just gotta stay positive and the rest will fall into place. I hope some of you can relax!
Yeah, I say it, but it sure isn't easy!  :)

Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2006, 07:24:36 PM »
If you only miss 3-4 questions on 3 sections, you should really start studying how to solve games. In fact, you should probably pospone this test since i doubt you'll learn much in 5 days. Look at it this way: if you miss 12 questions on 3 sections, and 12 questions on lg, you're looking at a 159/160. Since games are indeed the easiest to improve on, you can certainly cut the number missed to 4-5, and raise your score a a whupping 164/165. And what does that mean? $$$ in scholarships. It seems to be it would be worth the wait.

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2006, 07:44:13 PM »
If you only miss 3-4 questions on 3 sections, you should really start studying how to solve games. In fact, you should probably pospone this test since i doubt you'll learn much in 5 days. Look at it this way: if you miss 12 questions on 3 sections, and 12 questions on lg, you're looking at a 159/160. Since games are indeed the easiest to improve on, you can certainly cut the number missed to 4-5, and raise your score a a whupping 164/165. And what does that mean? $$$ in scholarships. It seems to be it would be worth the wait.

i think you are right. but im kinda worried that i won't be able to ace the games section even with 100  more hours of studying on it.

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Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2006, 07:57:43 PM »
If you only miss 3-4 questions on 3 sections, you should really start studying how to solve games. In fact, you should probably pospone this test since i doubt you'll learn much in 5 days. Look at it this way: if you miss 12 questions on 3 sections, and 12 questions on lg, you're looking at a 159/160. Since games are indeed the easiest to improve on, you can certainly cut the number missed to 4-5, and raise your score a a whupping 164/165. And what does that mean? $$$ in scholarships. It seems to be it would be worth the wait.


Do long postpone  too many more times. Reading comp changes for the june 07 test.

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2006, 08:16:05 PM »
Update:

I took the advice of Lonewolf and others in my life and have decided to change my date to February 10th. This is the latest LSAT that Buffalo will accept. I feel fine with regard to LR and RC as I already said. Now I have 10 weeks to ace that damned games section, the only thing keeping me from high 160s.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I already have PT's 19-38 as I said, so shouold I order tests 7, 9-18 etc? Or are these tests useless for logic games practice?

I need to ace this games section and I may just be too stupid to do it, but i know I haven't given it the prep that it deserves and I want to get a 165 and guarantee my admission to buffalo if possible.

thanks.

Re: Freaking out over this saturday's LSAT- logic games
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2006, 08:20:59 PM »
I'm so in the same freakin spot right now. I have no idea how one can be so well versed and meticulous in games to the point of the skills becoming second nature. I always miss INFERENCES!!! Die logic games, die.